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CAIR and the 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists

By Peter Gadiel

As the father of a 9/11 victim, I want to add my perspective on Luke Sheahan’s recent column on the Ohio State professors and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) promoting the theory of the “9/11 Truthers.”



It does not surprise me in the least that CAIR would participate in supporting the theory that the attacks of 9/11 and the 3,000 resulting murders were planned and carried out by the U.S. government. CAIR is an outfit which has been named by the government as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case, and so distracting Americans from the facts is likely in their best interests. Those facts are: Nineteen radical Islamist men who were not U.S. citizens, with the help of Islamist terrorist organizations headquartered overseas, entered the United States, were supplied funds by those Islamist terrorist organizations, and hijacked four commercial airliners.



These radical Islamist terrorists succeeded in flying three planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. On the fourth plane the passengers, having been alerted to the mass murder committed with the other planes, thwarted the terrorists and caused the plane to crash in a field in Pennsylvania. Afterward, Osama bin Laden claimed responsibility, and hundreds of thousands of people worldwide publicly celebrated the “successful” attacks committed by those who shared their radical Islamist views.

No surprise here either that there was NO US govt. conspiracy involved here; and having sit in a memorial w/ grieving families, NYPD, FD, EMS and others I'm sure it disturbs many (@ least some) when conspiracy crazy websites spew out all of this weirdness.

It was plain & simple a mass murder plot cooked up outside of this country w/ Osama binladen taking credit.

I wish these families, loved ones & coworkers here in NYC and elsewhere didn't have to be exposed to these crazy theories. It contributes nothing to their right to peace of mind.

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ORIGINAL: brooklynsblessed1

Those facts are: Nineteen radical Islamist men who were not U.S. citizens, with the help of Islamist terrorist organizations headquartered overseas, entered the United States, were supplied funds by those Islamist terrorist organizations, and hijacked four commercial airliners.

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Afterwards, Osama Bin Laden claimed reponsibility

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LORD BLESS AMERICA !

POLL IS MULTIPLE CHOICE

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ORIGINAL: brooklynsblessed1

Believe me my opinion ALL OF THESE WHACKY THEORIES HAVE ALQUEDA & OTHER HATERS OF THE US & ISRAEL BEHIND THEM..there are just too many of these amateur looking sites and too many people w/ too much time on their hands.

As a Christian in maybe THE # 1 target for future attacks these conspiracy around every corner people contribute nada to NY's or the nation's security.

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ORIGINAL: brooklynsblessed1

As a Christian in maybe THE # 1 target for future attacks these conspiracy around every corner people contribute nada to NY's or the nation's security.

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ORIGINAL: RedStone

Stephanos--

You talk about insulting US military personnel. Below, I have provided contact information for a guy who has two Silver Stars and a bunch of other medals, and who is a bona fide national security expert (a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense)...who believes the government's 9/11 yarn is complete baloney.

I'm wondering how you would go about delivering such a scathing, sneering, personal denunciation (such as you've have done with Backpacker) to this highly decorated, high-ranking military officer who has served his country heroically in combat? I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that little rendevous.

By the way, Brooklyn...this was that same guy whose email address and phone number I had gotten for you...so you would be able to call him up and insult and ridicule him, in your signature un-Christian, ungracious manner...regarding what a "kook" and "whacko" this American military hero is. Once again, here's the email and the phone number...and there are hundreds of other decorated military officers whose email addresses and phone numbers I can get for you.

His people have previously published this information on the Internet. He is Colonel Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret)., a recipient of two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star, and a Purple Heart.

Email: FirstPrinciplesP@aol.com
Phone: (800) 837-0544

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Stephanos--

You are also bearing false witness. You are stating utter falsehoods. I have never called you or anyone here a "name". Not once.

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Brooklyn--

I'm not sure how you can get a 30-word post of mine all mixed up. You're a little confused--

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ORIGINAL: RedStone
this was that same guy whose email address and phone number I had gotten for you...so you would be able to call him up and insult and ridicule him, in your signature un-Christian, ungracious manner...regarding what a "kook" and "whacko" this American military hero is. Once again, here's the email and the phone number...and there are hundreds of other decorated military officers whose email addresses and phone numbers I can get for you.

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And you call people like brooklyn "unchristian"?

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Brooklyn--

I'm not sure how you can get a 30-word post of mine all mixed up. You're a little confused-- This retired Assistant Defense Secretary is inviting your contact. He has published his contact info. It's public info...not personal info. That would appear to be another attempt at a false accusation on your part, Brooklyn.

The problem isn't in contacting him to have a conversation...the problem is you're incapable of having a polite, respectful disagreement with another human being. You don't know how to conduct yourself in public. And your posted response right here is a case-in-point: You insult this American hero by implying he is not of sound mind. You have no cause or justification for defaming this man in such a fashion. There has been no indication of "mental illness" from this man+++. He still works as an attorney (I believe) and on the lecture circuit. But because you disagree...you disregard scriptural principles and proceed to insult this two-time Silver Star recipient.

Stephanos--

You are also bearing false witness. You are stating utter falsehoods. I have never called you or anyone here a "name". Not once. And if you are spiritually superior to me (which just about every single one of your comments directed at me seems to have implied)...then YOU need to be the one to set the example. It's mind boggling for me to approach you and point out your ungracious, scathing denunciations...and have you respond with essentially "Well...you do it too!" Huh? What scriptural principle are you invoking there?

And even at that....some of your examples of "name-calling" are a bit of a reach...as though you are quite aware that you have precious little to choose from in creating your 'name-calling' complaint. "Blinded" you say? Suggesting to the other party that they may not be "seeing" the truth of a matter is pretty mild stuff. In any case, applying your chosen examples to me, as you did...is a false accusation.

And I guess we can't have a Stephanos post without an unfair 'straw man'being set up: One military man is better than the other because he agrees with me?? Where did you get that from? Thin air? Who in the world is arguing such a thing? What ARE you talking about?

In conclusion, here is another prominent American citizen that you could treat to an utterly uncharitable, unkind, scathing denunciation-- Bill Doyle is leader of the largest 9/11 Families Group... "The Coalition of 9/11 Families". He lost his own son Joey in the collapse of the twin towers. He states flatly that the government was complicit in the attack.


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Doyle questioned why WTC steel that was withheld from NIST for examination for explosives was used instead to build a battleship.

"Isn't it amazing how they got it out of this country within days," said Doyle as he addressed the cover-up of the physical evidence from a crime scene.

Doyle said he had personally talked to six different individuals who were at the World Trade Center site and described incendiary devices before the collapse of the towers.

"It's documented proof that tower 7 was not hit by a plane yet it goes up in flames then the owner of the place Larry Silverstein himself ordered it to be pulled at 4 o'clock that afternoon and all of a sudden it exploded straight down."

"We have two planes fly into the towers and all of a sudden they get blown up within an hour and a half - that's impossible," said Doyle.
Doyle questioned why WTC steel that was withheld from NIST for examination for explosives was used instead to build a battleship.

"Isn't it amazing how they got it out of this country within days," said Doyle as he addressed the cover-up of the physical evidence from a crime scene.

Doyle said he had personally talked to six different individuals who were at the World Trade Center site and described incendiary devices before the collapse of the towers.

"It's documented proof that tower 7 was not hit by a plane yet it goes up in flames then the owner of the place Larry Silverstein himself ordered it to be pulled at 4 o'clock that afternoon and all of a sudden it exploded straight down."

"We have two planes fly into the towers and all of a sudden they get blown up within an hour and a half - that's impossible," said Doyle.

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It is not civil like to hit a stranger w/ an insulting or critical email no matter what his current mental state might be, nor should you be opening up the individual to be subject to such, just goes to show a fanaticism profile that no sane member would want to participate in.

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Amen; esp. since these theories give aid & comfort to our enemies.