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Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/28/2008 4:16:33 PM   
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I'm staying in a motel for a few days that offers high-speed internet access.



I found the following on their information card:
Network Authentiction: Open
Data Encryption: Disabled




What does that mean?

And more importantly, is it safe / secure?

Thanks!

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/28/2008 7:39:29 PM   
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According to Kevin.... everything will pass over in clear text without encryption.

If you are on a https (secure site) then they handle the encryption.

But otherwise, anyone "war-driving" or sniffing Wi-Fi traffic can read what you send (including any passwords or info on non-secure pages)


Hope this helps.

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/28/2008 8:15:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Restored_Heart

According to Kevin.... everything will pass over in clear text without encryption.

If you are on a https (secure site) then they handle the encryption.
Thanks, Amy and Kevin!

Does this mean that there's a possibility that I'm on a https; and if so, how do I find out?


While at this motel, is there anyway that I can access the net via a secure site?

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/29/2008 6:33:08 AM   
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It would show up as part of the web address....

http://faithcommunitynetwork.com/m_3935735/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3936397
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This shows that the address to this thread is not https....

I think the secure site is up to the address that you go to, not where you are logged in.

I know that when you are doing a financial transaction with a place like amazon,

they will send you to their secure site for the completion of your order....

It will show up as https://.....

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/29/2008 10:13:15 AM   
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YOU are wonderful! Thanks so much.

I tested your post against my bank's website. Most of the website had http . . . But! when I clicked on "online banking," it changed to https.

So, this means that I can do my online banking with confidence here in the motel room, correct? Yay!!!

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/29/2008 4:58:01 PM   
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Yes, that is what it means :)

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 10/31/2008 11:59:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings

So, this means that I can do my online banking with confidence here in the motel room, correct? Yay!!!


Uh, no it doesn't mean that. A completely open wireless network is vulnerable to "man in the middle" attacks, among others. A rogue network sets itself up to look like the network you want to connect to. When you connect to this fake, it takes complete control of your data, and when you try and go to a real site, it sends you to a phony. I'm not sure how easy it is to fake a secure connection, but I imagine it can be done, at least long enough to get your login information.

If you aren't on a secure connection, and sometimes even if you are, I've heard the answer to security on the go is a VPN, Virtual Private Network. I know many businesses use these, but I've never had to work with one myself.

I saw a great article recently on various VPN options... but I can't seem to find it now.

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RE: Data Encryption: Disabled - 11/3/2008 7:39:50 AM   
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FigmentPez, man in the middle attack against SSL is only possible against self-signed certificates. However, most reputable banks and other financial services typically purchase their certificates from certificate authorities.

Also, once your data arrives at the server that is the endpoint of the secure link, it is only secure as that server. If that server is compromised, then you have a problem.

So if you bank with "Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe" or some other institution that does not use certificates purchased from a certificate authority, or they have lax computer security, you could get snookered by a man in the middle scheme.

So yes, use caution, but in general with reputable banks that have purchased security certificates and do a decent job of computer security, then everything should be fine.

The real problem is the security of the bank servers in general. And that is a problem no matter where or how you connect to them.

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