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Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND SPEND - 10/25/2008 8:35:28 AM
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letusreason
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Barney Frank, the circus carney who peddled the housing loan crisis to us and told us for years that Fannie Mae "was sound" now wants to cut Military spending 25%. That is huge.
"We don't need all these fancy new weapons."
Frank also called for massive increases in federal spending for social programs and increased taxes.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081024/NEWS/810240332/-1/NEWS10
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 8:44:49 AM
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Barney Frank, the circus carney who peddled the housing loan crisis to us and told us for years that Fannie Mae "was sound" now wants to cut Military spending 25%. That is huge.
"We don't need all these fancy new weapons."
He's probably right to a degree. Modern warfare is becoming more and more about human intelligence, guerrilla tactics, urban fighting, and small-scale skirmishes, yet to a great degree, we still shop for toys as if we're fighting a vast, well-armed soviet army. The military's needs are not always the top priority when deciding what new programs to fund.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 9:09:13 AM
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He's probably right to a degree. Modern warfare is becoming more and more about human intelligence, guerrilla tactics, urban fighting, and small-scale skirmishes, yet to a great degree, we still shop for toys as if we're fighting a vast, well-armed soviet army. The military's needs are not always the top priority when deciding what new programs to fund.
-Dan.
So things like the newly developed 'Predator Drone", or the ability to shoot doen incoming ICBM missles are not needed for the security of our country and/or effectively fighting terrorist.
Dear Lord, I will pray for you.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 9:21:21 AM
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When it comes down to it perhaps the only difference between the two is how much to spend on the military? Is Borrow borrow borrow and spend spend spend any more responsible than tax tax tax and spend spend spend?
If borrow and spend is more responsible then why not just give everyone womb to the tomb, cradle to grave everything they could ever possibly need and want. Let the government print more money to pay for it all.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 10:15:10 AM
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iluvatar
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He's probably right to a degree. Modern warfare is becoming more and more about human intelligence, guerrilla tactics, urban fighting, and small-scale skirmishes, yet to a great degree, we still shop for toys as if we're fighting a vast, well-armed soviet army. The military's needs are not always the top priority when deciding what new programs to fund.
-Dan.
So things like the newly developed 'Predator Drone", or the ability to shoot doen incoming ICBM missles are not needed for the security of our country and/or effectively fighting terrorist.
Dear Lord, I will pray for you.
Thanks
RC
No, the Predator is great. But the missile shield doesn't seem to be. I like the idea of it, but so far it hasn't been very successful, may not ever be able to really work against decoys, and seems to be a response to a threat that largely isn't there.
-Dan.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 12:45:52 PM
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letusreason
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He's probably right to a degree. Modern warfare is becoming more and more about human intelligence, guerrilla tactics, urban fighting, and small-scale skirmishes, yet to a great degree, we still shop for toys as if we're fighting a vast, well-armed soviet army. The military's needs are not always the top priority when deciding what new programs to fund.
-Dan.
So things like the newly developed 'Predator Drone", or the ability to shoot doen incoming ICBM missles are not needed for the security of our country and/or effectively fighting terrorist.
Dear Lord, I will pray for you.
Thanks
RC
No, the Predator is great. But the missile shield doesn't seem to be. I like the idea of it, but so far it hasn't been very successful, may not ever be able to really work against decoys, and seems to be a response to a threat that largely isn't there.
-Dan.
If the threat isn't there, why do all of our allies want it and Russia is going into contortions over others getting it?
All it takes is one attack for these to pay off.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 12:58:50 PM
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why do all of our allies want it
cite? Who wants it, how bad, and why?
I found this article that seems to indicate that there's a lot of concern over it.
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"A missile defense system should be neither a cause of, nor a pretext for, a new arms race," Steinmeier wrote in an op-ed piece for the newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung.
"Our top priority remains disarmament and not an arms buildup," he wrote. "We don't want a new arms race in Europe."
Steinmeier, who is due to meet US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Washington on Monday to discuss trans-Atlantic ties, has been one of the strongest European critics of Washington's handling of the missile shield plan.
Last month he criticized Washington for not consulting Russia on the missile project. Moscow sees it as an encroachment on its former sphere of influence and an attempt to shift the post-Cold War balance of power.
The United States intends to deploy missiles in Poland and part of a radar system in the Czech Republic to help counter a possible threat of long-range missile attacks. US officials have said the shield would counter threats from what it calls "rogue states" such as Iran and would not pose a threat to Moscow.
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and Russia is going into contortions over others getting it?
All it takes is one attack for these to pay off.
Read up on game theory. It's cheaper and better for everyone if we just agree to back off. If we build a missile defense, they'll build an anti-missile defense (or just more missiles), and then we'll be back to square one a little poorer. It also sends crazy diplomatic signals and may trigger a pre-emptive strike.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 1:03:35 PM
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All it takes is one attack for these to pay off.
If they work.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 4:03:18 PM
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Barney Frank may as well turn in his DNC membership for the American socialist party.
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He's probably right to a degree. Modern warfare is becoming more and more about human intelligence, guerrilla tactics, urban fighting, and small-scale skirmishes, yet to a great degree, we still shop for toys as if we're fighting a vast, well-armed soviet army. The military's needs are not always the top priority when deciding what new programs to fund.
Why is it that Americans seem to think the old red machine of the Soviet empire is gone? Russia has been flexing her muscles again. Look at what they did in Georgia. Now they're getting cozy with Venzuela. One of things our government is supposed to do is provide for national defense. All the social programs that have been developed over the past 60 years are not the job of the government. This being a Christian website, I feel I can say that the government has taken our job from us (the church). The government declared a war on poverty. All they've done is create more poverty. The government programs have created dependence in which people would rather stand in line, fill out the forms, and get a handout than work.
The only government institution that works to create desire to achieve, to do better, to look out for others, is the military.
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 5:11:34 PM
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letusreason
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why do all of our allies want it
cite? Who wants it, how bad, and why?
Poland, Japan, Israel for starters. Not sure how you missed this.
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Read up on game theory. It's cheaper and better for everyone if we just agree to back off. If we build a missile defense, they'll build an anti-missile defense (or just more missiles), and then we'll be back to square one a little poorer. It also sends crazy diplomatic signals and may trigger a pre-emptive strike.
A pre-emptive strike can't win. Didn't you ever see war games?
We are already at more missles. lol
Yea imagine a world where everyone has missle defences. Isn't that a stalemate we want?
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RE: Democrat Plan - More Tax, Gut Military, SPEND SPEND... - 10/25/2008 5:47:55 PM
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My husband and I are a middle class couple with no children.
How will Obama's tax's plan hurt us?
How will Obama's tax plan help us?
I just want to know the pros and cons of each candidate's tax plan. Thanks for your replies.
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