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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 4:02:50 PM
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Konstantinos
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i wish i had raw milk.
and the benefits far outweigh the risk.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 4:02:52 PM
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I drank it for the first, oh say.... 12 years of my life. We were never ill from it, and I don't know why it would be "dangerous."
I would buy it again if I could right now. We unfortunately live in the city, and the only farmers I know are 1800 miles away. =)
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 4:49:03 PM
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Lots of people around here drink it, with no trouble. I don't care for it, but I don't like whole milk from the store either.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 4:51:57 PM
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It is a real treat if we get fresh cow's milk... or goat milk for the kids. I have been thinking about getting a cow for our family with milk prices the way they are. So I would if I could.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 4:58:49 PM
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I drank "raw milk" for the first 18 years of my life. Most everyone I knew did too. We were a pretty healthy bunch.
I see "raw milk" being sold in some groceries nowadays for high prices for the organic crowd. Seems like selling "organic" stuff to suburbanites might be where all the big money is these days.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 5:28:47 PM
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Not tried it yet, it may not be legal here.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 5:37:23 PM
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Miss Giggles
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Oh I know that I just wouldn't have a clue where to get some, I don't use enough to try to contact the dairy and I've been staying out of the health food stores.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 5:50:38 PM
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We drink it when we can because the benefits are so good. The risks of getting sick are so small, especially if you know you're getting it from a clean source.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/16/2008 10:41:17 PM
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We have goats and drink the milk raw.
What, exactly, do you think is dangerous about it?
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 7:39:08 AM
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We drink it all the time. It's all I have in my fridge. We usually go through about 3 gallons of whole milk a week, and I get raw cream for my coffee. And they also sell cheeses that they make at the same dairy. The dairy where we buy our milk is about 20 miles away, so we sort of have a co-op and take turns driving there and picking milk up for the group.
I have heard of the reports about the dangers of raw milk (though I have no interest in reading them) and it just makes me think "Gee, God must be really cruel to provide a food that's so dangerous for us." Especially all those many generations before pasteurization.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 8:21:13 AM
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What, exactly, do you think is dangerous about it?
I really don't know anything about raw milk except for what I heard on the news report. I guess you can get EColi and and few other nasty things, but as others have posted it seems safe if you know where you are getting it from. I'm in N. IL and I'd love to try some, but I'm not sure where to go.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 9:13:55 AM
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If it is legal to buy in your state, you find a farmer whose farm is fairly clean and is health conscious about milking, that should be good enough. It has been too long since I have been a dairy farm to tell you how the milking process should go. The people that we got goats milk from would wash their hands with antibacterial soap and the goats... um... mammory parts with iodine. they then squirt a little milk off to the side before filling their buckets. They milk in an area that is fairly clear of debris so nothing can fall into the bucket. It should be much the same for cows too... just more equipment.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 9:29:55 AM
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I wouldn't do it without knowing the farm and it's practices well.
I'm from a dairy state and I think its natural for people to drink their own raw milk or that of a friend or neighbor, but I think it's odd for people to accept it from a store or someone who's barn they've never visited.
There are many neutral and 'bad' bacteria that can be transfered through milk. Think of how what a woman eats affects a breastfeeding baby. What a cow eats, how its kept, the standard milking proceedure (including cleanliness of milking machine/hands/udder), and the health of the people who handle the cows all have an effect on the milk. This also carries to other milk products (cheese for instance) that are made with raw milk. A few years ago several people (including children and a baby) in New York City contracted TB from cheese made from raw milk.
I was on a farm history kick not that long ago and read biographies and autobiographies from the turn of the century through the '40s and it was fascinating how this whole concept of pasteurization came about. People did get sick (even in the country occasionally) but the real reason for pasteurization had more to do with the mass production of milk.
IMO, any benefit derived from not heating the milk is less than the chance you take if you're drinking from an unknown source (just knowing the farmer socially and thinking he's a good guy doesn't really count here), especially if you have children.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 12:05:32 PM
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We would, and when/if DD ever drinks cow's milk then we will buy it raw. It is legal here in Colorado through a cow "share" program. The farm closest to us is very clean, and does regular testing of their animals to help prevent the possible contamination of their animals. They are the same people we will be buying our beef from 
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 4:30:35 PM
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I wouldn't do it without knowing the farm and it's practices well.
I would agree with you there. That just makes sense, for the same reason I prefer to buy most of our food locally or raise it ourselves.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/17/2008 4:38:14 PM
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Do I currently drink raw milk, no. Will I as soon as I can get enough hours off work to get to the closest, trustworthy place, yes.
I've honestly never thought of it being dangerous, my parents grew up drinking it so it hasn't seemed uncommon.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/18/2008 10:42:52 AM
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I drank "raw milk" for the first 18 years of my life. Most everyone I knew did too. We were a pretty healthy bunch.
I, too, drank "raw" milk for the first 18 years of my life; until I married and moved away from the local farm that we got our milk & eggs & etc. from. Our whole family drank it, and many that we knew; we were all a pretty healthy bunch.
I believe pasteurization robs (weakens) the milk of it's full vitamins; And Plastic bottles even more vitamins--- Not only that, I believe, Plastic bottles (which they are now discovering in baby bottles) cause more danger to humans than "raw" Milk.
Nothing taste better than a Cold Glass of "Raw" Milk that's gone from the Stainless steel 'Bucket' or 'Milk Can' to being stored in a Glass Bottle!!
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/19/2008 7:50:36 PM
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I would like to, but can't find a good farm here to buy it... My understanding is that it's illegal to sell it for human consumption.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/20/2008 10:29:41 AM
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We're lactose intolerant so I'm not sure we can drink it.
It's illegal to sell it here for human consumption, and it's an issue that is in the news big time here. On the weekend, there was a big write up about a man outside the city who sells it to his neighbours.
I don't see what the big deal is. If there is something bad about drinking it, and people know the risks and still want to drink it, then they should be allowed to. There are tons of places in the world where people drink raw milk, and they all seem to be surviving!
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/20/2008 11:53:24 AM
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It's only illegal in some areas.
One of my friends was "lactose intolerant"-------------until he tried raw milk. (Somewhat like hubby tests "gluten sensitive" except with organic heirloom whole grains--including wheat.) I'm personally coming to believe that it has more to do with the way foods are processed and corrupted than it is with the actual foods.
So when God gave the Israelites a land flowing with milk and honey, ya think it was pasteurized? (actually the milk OR the honey, 'cause they do that to both)
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/21/2008 8:43:22 AM
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lexie
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One of my friends was "lactose intolerant"-------------until he tried raw milk.
Why the quotation marks? Did he just think he was lactose intolerant or was it diagnosed?
That's good to know. Dh's lactose intolerance is pretty bad (I'm not sure if my intolerance is due to lactose or something else in the milk), and I'm worried Dd will have the same problem as Dh. We'll have to look into raw milk, I'm so tired of paying more money for lactose free milk.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/21/2008 9:04:01 AM
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HisCovenant
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You may check on goats' milk, too. It's is good for lactose intollerant lots of times.
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RE: Do you drink raw milk? - 5/21/2008 1:06:00 PM
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For interesting facts on raw milk, go to www.realmilk.com . Something I found out on that site:
<<<<One reason raw milk is so much easier to digest compared to pasteurized milk is due to the presence of lactase, the enzyme that breaks down milk sugar and which many humans are unable to produce. The experts I have spoken with deny the presence of lactase in raw milk; however, it is the friendly bacteria in raw milk that facilitate the creation of lactase in the intestine where it is needed. That is why lactose-intolerant people can drink raw milk without a problem. Pasteurization kills these friendly bacteria. >>>>
Also, the Weston Price foundation has done a study on 155 people diagnosed as lactose-intolerant, of which 127 , or over 80%, were able to digest raw milk with no complications. Read more at www.westonaprice.org
I grew up on raw milk, and as you can tell, feel rather strongly about it. Whatever happened to our freedom to decide what we want to eat in this so-called free country!?
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And people can get away with selling it too, if they label it as not for human consumption...they don't need to know who is going to drink it in order to sell it.
