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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 11:11:21 AM
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Nostradamus was a false prophet. Why pay heed to such?
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 11:21:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: .nile.
Why, then, did what was written regarding the french revolution; and later; hitler occur?
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Nostradamus was a false prophet. Why pay heed to such?
Just because Nostradamus made a few correct predictions ( and even some of those are debatable but that's for another forum) does not make him a prophet; according to the Word of God a prophet is not allowed even one error. He/she is either right 100% of the time or they are deemed to be false prophets and as Chritians we should not pay them any attention.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 11:23:36 AM
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Because if you say things that are vague and cryptic enough, then you can match pretty much anything in hindsight. *shrug*
The moon rises over fields of white
Between the great oceans
Something terrible happens. Oh no!
Everyone is very very sad in Detroit.
See? I can do it too! Ask me in 5 years what that meant.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 11:56:37 AM
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What were the circumstances, then, that Notradamus faced? So that what was written seems veiled; perhaps; was what I was wondering.
I believe that, at that time, a certain 'church' controlled all of the writtings concerning just about everything.
Surely one could recall that Galileo was under house arrest for looking at what God made.
As to Michigan, apparently what you wrote already has been occured.
No, I'm writing about a completely DIFFERENT disaster. Ask me in 5 years. ;)
I'm pretty sure the writing seems veiled because like most "psychics", obfuscation until they have a reaction you can use is the key to hooking a sucker on the idea that you might actually have a clue what you're talking about.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 12:11:55 PM
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Ww, I haven't met anyone willing to admit they believed Nostradamus said was true since I was about 15.
The reality is everything he wrote was complete nonsense which could be interpreted to say pretty much anything one wishes; there is nothing in this 'Quatrain' (or any other writing of Nostradamus) that predicts anything of substance.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 12:38:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: .nile.
Does quattrain century VIII prophecy concerning NASA and the SARS virus that is activated by the sun? And how these events will eventually lead into marmande ? The beast from the sea man as written? The dragon stood on the shore of the sea, the beast from the earth has a name with a number of the name of the false prophet leader. mar man de! 'sea' (or animated series) man de (of or from someone).
In a word: No
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/6/2008 4:04:05 PM
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That's why so many people get suckered into fortune tellers, horoscopes, etc. because they keep it cryptic enough that it can have multiple meaning thus leading credence to the person "seeing" the future.
"Therefore you shall no more see false visions, nor practice divination." Ezekiel 13:23
Also Leviticus 19:26, Dueteronomy 18:10 & 18:14, and Micah 5:12.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/7/2008 12:39:38 PM
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I wonder if anyone here knows the story of Nostradamus.
I used to be fascinated by his story and the predictions atttributed to him. If I remember correctly Nostradamus himself did not consider himself some sort of psychic. He himself did not put much stock in his predictions and went so far as to say that no one could tell if he predicted either accurately or correctly until after the event occured.
Yes, what he has said to have predicted could be applied to any number of similar events throughout history. But there are some that could only be applied to particular events.
Yes, Nostradamus's prediction are very "crytic". There are experts that have spent their lives trying to decipher his poems. The fact is, last time I checked, there only have been a relatively few of his poems, his predictions, that have been deciphered and translated into various languages. The man so intertwined Christian thinking with Jewish thinking, Greek and Roman mythology and astrology, along with a mismash of other literary, spiritual, and secular symbolisms, not to mention French, Latin, and Greek that it has been almost impossible to decipher all that he wrote. Just the same there have been some that stand out and can not be easily discounted.
Some of his predictions about the course of Man's history apprear to follow Revelations, which is where I stopped being fascinated with him since those more knowledgeable about him and his predictions tended to feel that Nostradamus believed that Revelation was not the end of the world but a phase Man went through and will continue to go through for an untold number of years.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/7/2008 1:16:56 PM
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I find the almost automatic dismissal of any prophecy, other than that prophecy spoken of in the Bible, very fascinating.
My response, is that if we automatically dismiss all prophecy, we are, in fact saying that God can not speak to us in all ways, or in any way he sees fit and best to reach us?
I believe that the test of prophesy lies in:
1. The importance we attach to it.
2. Our ability to correctly decern and understand it.
3. Our ability to discern its source and reason
Wasn't Jesus prophesed in the Old testament, and weren't those prophesis dismissed, or at least seriously misunderstood?
Just questioning. Not advocating one way or the other.
Sorry if my questions take this thread off topic.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/7/2008 3:14:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: leonfigg3
I find the almost automatic dismissal of any prophecy, other than that prophecy spoken of in the Bible, very fascinating.
My response, is that if we automatically dismiss all prophecy, we are, in fact saying that God can not speak to us in all ways, or in any way he sees fit and best to reach us?
I believe that the test of prophesy lies in:
1. The importance we attach to it.
2. Our ability to correctly decern and understand it.
3. Our ability to discern its source and reason
Wasn't Jesus prophesed in the Old testament, and weren't those prophesis dismissed, or at least seriously misunderstood?
Just questioning. Not advocating one way or the other.
Sorry if my questions take this thread off topic.
And I believe that before one can test the prophecy one must first test the prophet. If they meet the Biblical guidelines of a prohet then there is no further need to test the prophecy since it obviously from God; conversely of they fail the test of a prophet it is utterly futile to test the prophecy since it is obviously not from God
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/7/2008 11:48:57 PM
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rhippie,
What if the individual making prophetic statements never claimed to be a prophet?
As I indicated before, from what I have read of Nostradamus, he never claimed to be a prophet. That is how others saw him as as a result of all the poems he wrote that seemed to be prophetic.
I could be wrong, and if I am, I would like someone to point it out to me.
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RE: Does Nostradamus' quattrain prophecy the SARS? - 10/8/2008 12:14:10 PM
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Biblical prophecying is not telling the future! Prophets are people who have made themselves God's messengers to get them to return to God! That is why it is based on the word "nabi" or mouthpiece.
Society's turning away from God is brought to light and the call is set forth by the prophet to return to Him. The prophets warnings of a future disaster or calamity are based on the fact that without God working in us and, henceforth, in out society we're on the road to disaster! But the prophet's warnings do not indicate a sure thing. Disaster can be averted by returning to God. They are like a flashing yellow at an intersection.
It's like a parent warning their child that a certain behavior will likely result in a certain consequence.
Nostradamus is not being touted, therefore, as a prophet but a fortune teller, albeit, a very cryptic one.
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