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Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:03:20 PM
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todd_t
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Have a good day, everyone! Time for an enchilada with mole salsa!
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:11:13 PM
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Curious thing, May 5. I looked it up to see what it was all about. Seems it was a battle won against France on May 5, 1862 but the victory only delayed the French advance on Mexico City. A year later, the French occupied Mexico. So it's like the calm before the other side of the hurricane slams into ya...
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:18:23 PM
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Curious thing, May 5. I looked it up to see what it was all about. Seems it was a battle won against France on May 5, 1862 but the victory only delayed the French advance on Mexico City. A year later, the French occupied Mexico. So it's like the calm before the other side of the hurricane slams into ya...
It's a lot like Valentines and Mother's day; it's meant to effect the sale of products associated with it, in this case Margarita's rather than chocolates. Just enjoy.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:32:21 PM
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Jhud
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But the only Mexican dish I like is imported into Mexica, Hersey's chocolate.
See, I was always under the impresion that came from Pennsylvania.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:36:39 PM
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It's a lot like Valentines and Mother's day; it's meant to effect the sale of products associated with it, in this case Margarita's rather than chocolates.
Well, when do Americans ever turn down an excuse to get crazy and party?
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 5:38:08 PM
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Jhud
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Well, when do Americans ever turn down an excuse to get crazy and party?
Exactly. Viva Mexico!
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 6:07:37 PM
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Look harder. If it's associated with margueritas, you know it has to be sinful somehow.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 6:17:49 PM
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Honestly, I don't like Mexican food.
You have never had good Mexican food then. If you're ever by me, I will take you to some of the best spots in this area.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 7:47:08 PM
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Cinco de Mayo is celebrated more here than in Mexico except maybe in Puebla where the battle actually took place. I guess the big deal was that they stood up against a numerically superior French force.
There are many battles that are celebrated (or just remembered) even though they would have been considered losses. Remember the Alamo? December 7th? The greeks lost at Thermopylae and they made TWO movies about it.
BTW, if it weren't for the Aztecs, Hershey would have no cocoa to make chocolate. Even the word Chocolate is based on the Aztec (Nahuatl) word chocolatl. The Swiss and Germans had no chocolatl until after the Spanish started to import it after their conquest of the Aztecs in 1519. So Hershey, Pennsylvania can thank the indigenous Mexica for their fortune!
Well, I think I'll go get me a Dos Equis dark and make me a michilada! Salud! Y bendiciones! To your health! Blessings!
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 8:12:34 PM
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 8:20:32 PM
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
Wow, I LEARNED something, I just always knew the Italian had the monoply on tomatoes. What else............
South America is the home of the tomato and has been cultivated by Indians in the Andes Mountains since prehistoric times. It moved from South America to Mexico more then 3,000 years ago, when settlers migrated to this area of the world. The Tomato was introduced to European society in the 16th Century and was first grown in Italy in 1550. Tomatoes are a fruit, not a vegetable and belong to the same family as the poisonous nightshade family. For a long time in the U.S. they were thought to be poisonous and inedible until the 19th century. The tomato is now cultivated throughout the world.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 8:31:47 PM
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
Wow, I LEARNED something, I just always knew the Italian had the monoply on tomatoes. What else............
South America is the home of the tomato and has been cultivated by Indians in the Andes Mountains since prehistoric times. It moved from South America to Mexico more then 3,000 years ago, when settlers migrated to this area of the world. The Tomato was introduced to European society in the 16th Century and was first grown in Italy in 1550. Tomatoes are a fruit, not a vegetable and belong to the same family as the poisonous nightshade family. For a long time in the U.S. they were thought to be poisonous and inedible until the 19th century. The tomato is now cultivated throughout the world.
A big thanks for the culinary arts of Italy can also be given to the black plague
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/5/2008 11:47:00 PM
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the reason I think I learn from here is looking up things to counter a debate. so today I learned what Cinco De Mayo is, a notable thing to celebrate, that tomatoes came from Mexico and THE BLACK PLAGUE cannot be attribited to Tomataoes or Italians. WOW. A good day.
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Since China was one of the busiest of the world's trading nations, it was only a matter of time before the outbreak of plague in China spread to western Asia and Europe.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/6/2008 12:04:51 AM
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
Yes, and no: tomatoes come from the Americas; modern horses do not. And it's not just Mesoamerica that contributed new foods to Eurasia, but all of the Americas: North, South, and Central.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/6/2008 7:24:04 AM
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
Yes, and no: tomatoes come from the Americas; modern horses do not. And it's not just Mesoamerica that contributed new foods to Eurasia, but all of the Americas: North, South, and Central.
yea, I did not get where the horse came from Mexico reference came from.
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RE: Happy Cinco de Mayo - 5/6/2008 8:19:31 AM
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mapachito13
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Isn't it also true that if not for the natives of Mexico, etc.. that Italians would not have had tomatoes and horses?
Yes, and no: tomatoes come from the Americas; modern horses do not. And it's not just Mesoamerica that contributed new foods to Eurasia, but all of the Americas: North, South, and Central.
You are so right! Horses were brought over by the Europeans (Spanish)! Give the man some chocolatl!
Chili peppers, corn (for tlaxcala bread aka tortillas), vanilla, avocado, papaya, pineapple, beans, squash, sweet potatos, peanuts, fish and turkey are foods they enjoyed before Cortes hit the beaches of Vera Cruz (true cross).
Pineapple became a very expensive delicacy in France and is the reason for all those pineapples topping colinades of all sorts in European architecture.
I guess you can tell I'm a history nut!
BTW, Cinco de Mayo is a big deal here in LA and I found out why. It was started in 1863 as a way of showing Mexican pride and an act of protest to the new French overlords of Mexico. Back then California was part of the US. I guess it was an act of rebellion against the US as well.
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