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I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 9:57:01 PM
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Ashleyyy
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A year ago my Grandma was diagnosed with colon cancer only a couple months after my Grandfather passed away. She went through chemo for about a year and just a couple months ago got off it. But she's been having terrible pain all over her body. She went to the doctors, took a bone scan and found out that she has bone cancer. She's only 68 years old, she's eaten healthy all her life, never smoked, drank...nothing. And she gets cancer.I don't understand it...what gets me so mad is how much suffering she's going through. The same thing with my Grandpa...he suffered multiple TIA's [mini strokes] He was in hospitals and nursing homes for 4, almost 5 months. I just don't understand why the people I love so much are suffering...why did my Grandma get cancer AGAIN? I have no more faith in God, right now it's just a joke to me. I don't attend church because it gets me so mad how he can take a great man, my Grandfather away from me and my family...and now he's going to take my Grandma too. He doesn't stop suffering...I'm just at a loss about what to do.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 10:28:20 PM
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Ashleyyy, I'm so sorry about your grandparents. My mother is slowly dieing and I am caring for her so I understand some of the pain your going through. It's so hard to watch someone we love suffer. God never promised that our life in this world would be a bed of roses. What He did promise is that He would never leave or forsake us. He's is right there with us, no matter what we may go through. He loves you so much and He loves your grandparents too. satan would love to attack your faith anywhere he see's a crack, and he knows your hurning over all this with your grandparents. Don't let him plant seeds of doubt. If your grandparent know the Lord (and I pray that they do), they woun't want that for you I'm sure. I speak as a grandmother myself. Stay close to the Lord. Try to see the Lord's working all around you. And don't let satan fool you. I'm praying for you and your grandmother. And welcome to the forums. We're glad your here. God Bless.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 10:36:22 PM
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Ashleyyy
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ORIGINAL: sparkleingsnow Ashleyyy, I'm so sorry about your grandparents. My mother is slowly dieing and I am caring for her so I understand some of the pain your going through. It's so hard to watch someone we love suffer. God never promised that our life in this world would be a bed of roses. What He did promise is that He would never leave or forsake us. He's is right there with us, no matter what we may go through. He loves you so much and He loves your grandparents too. satan would love to attack your faith anywhere he see's a crack, and he knows your hurning over all this with your grandparents. Don't let him plant seeds of doubt. If your grandparent know the Lord (and I pray that they do), they woun't want that for you I'm sure. I speak as a grandmother myself. Stay close to the Lord. Try to see the Lord's working all around you. And don't let satan fool you. I'm praying for you and your grandmother. And welcome to the forums. We're glad your here. God Bless. It's just to hard to have faith in Him after all of this. I felt that he left after my Grandpa died and I've never felt so far away from God in my life than I do now. It's hard to keep faith in Him and to know He loves me when he's taking away people that I love so so much.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 10:49:58 PM
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sparkleingsnow
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It's hard because we can't understand why He would allow something that hurts so much if He loves us. But He does love You so very much. His word tells us that now we see darkly, but one day we will see clearly. So one day we will understand. Till then we need to stand on His promises. We know that He truely loves us. We know what a wonderful place He has prepared for us, and we know that He will never leave us. We need to stand on that. Allow Him to help us. To give us the strength to get through this. To help us and comfort us.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 10:54:32 PM
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Ashleyyy
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Do you have any ideas or ways of how to get closer to him again?
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 11:03:55 PM
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sparkleingsnow
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Yes. Talk to Him. He's right there waiting with His arms open. Then spend time with Him. In His word, praying, praising Him, seeing things all around you that He has created and thinking Him for them. Spent time with other christians too. We are told to lift each other up, to help each other, to encourage each other. The more time you spend with the Lord, the closer you will become.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/18/2008 11:46:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ashleyyy Do you have any ideas or ways of how to get closer to him again? Read His word, it's His love letter to us, I'd suggest John's gospel. Pray to Him how you feel. Tell him and ask Him to show you His love. He's died just to show you His love and fills you with that love if you accept it.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 1:06:28 AM
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Drawing back closer to God- Did grandma go to church with the family? Was she active with the church, have some friends there? What about growing up? She may only be able to talk with you a little bit at a time, if she's on pain meds, but I'd encourage you to talk with her about her faith. Maybe even let her know you are feeling some distress about her health. Hear what she's got to say about things- about her and your grandpa... whatever she'd bring up. Let her know you love her. May God daily bless you during these hard days. OneJohn410
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 1:34:18 AM
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Ashleyyy...My heart goes out to you in this uncertain time with your grandmother. Here's a scripture to bring comfort to all who are overwhelmed with loss and suffering. This is great hope for all who have faith in Christ Jesus. I look forward to NO more suffering, even death. "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away" (Rev. 21:4).[/I] Praying for you and your grandmother...in Jesus name. .
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 2:30:50 AM
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Well our God has the power to save. It is just his ways are not ours. we leave one storm, and there is always another approaching. One of the devils tricks in these last days is to make us lose faith. My mom and dad are both ill, and mom suffers terrible in pain. She always calls people, and prays for them that are suffering. My youngest daughter has suffered emotional pain, that has almost crippled her. We make it through our sadness, and suffering day by day, and God gives us our daily grace to makeit through, because he is good. Him being good is not based on our opinion, but because the word ofGod says so. Ask for wisdom from him, he said he would give it to you. may God help you, me, my parents, and everyone suffering, but still endures.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 2:30:58 AM
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Here's a scripture to bring comfort to all who are overwhelmed with loss and suffering. This is great hope for all who have faith in Christ Jesus. I look forward to NO more suffering, even death. "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away" (Rev. 21:4). This is an excellent scripture to deal with the loss of loved ones. I just lost someone very, very close to me a few months ago, and I know it can be painful and heartbreaking. However, at the risk of sounding a little harsh, you have to consider all that they are gaining. Yes you love them and you'll miss them terribly, but God is bringing them home!! After the death of my closest aunt, whenever I would get sad and miss her, I would start thinking about what she might be doing in Heaven at that very moment. Singing? Dancing? Being embraced by God Himself? It always made me feel much better because it reminded me that she was in the greatest place of all. The thing is, it's not about me or you -- it's about them. God has ended their suffering forever. I know it's hard because we miss them, but it's true. And, once again, at the risk of sounding harsh, I'll tell you something that my dear friend/pastor/mentor told me: If s/he had the chance to come back here or stay there -- they'd stay, honey. They wouldn't come back. OF course they love you, but it's Heaven!! They'll meet you there. You can get through this but you have to seek Him now instead of turning your back on Him. He will comfort you if you let Him. I'll be praying for you, honey.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 6:15:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ashleyyy A year ago my Grandma was diagnosed with colon cancer only a couple months after my Grandfather passed away. She went through chemo for about a year and just a couple months ago got off it. But she's been having terrible pain all over her body. She went to the doctors, took a bone scan and found out that she has bone cancer. She's only 68 years old, she's eaten healthy all her life, never smoked, drank...nothing. And she gets cancer.I don't understand it...what gets me so mad is how much suffering she's going through. The same thing with my Grandpa...he suffered multiple TIA's [mini strokes] He was in hospitals and nursing homes for 4, almost 5 months. I just don't understand why the people I love so much are suffering...why did my Grandma get cancer AGAIN? I have no more faith in God, right now it's just a joke to me. I don't attend church because it gets me so mad how he can take a great man, my Grandfather away from me and my family...and now he's going to take my Grandma too. He doesn't stop suffering...I'm just at a loss about what to do. God never promised us things would be easy. But ill tell you one thing for sure...if you lose ur faith in God you wont see them again. You need to be strong through this time and trust in His timing for certain things. Dont listen to the enemy. Dont let him take ur faith away. We ALL will die one day. The best thing we can all do is to hold onto our faith. God Bless You.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 3:09:27 PM
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Hi Ashleyyy, First I have prayed for your peace and understanding. I think the majorty of us here have lost someone near in our lives so your not alone. I lost my Grandpa on my mother's side when i was young. He had suffered several heart attacks before the final one took his life ( he too, was fairly young when he died). I often wonder what our lives would be like if he were still here (in a possitive fashion of course). also lost my Grandpa on my Dad's side to cancer several years later, and although he lived in another state I sometimes wonder the same thing. I want to bring up a few things. Jesus Christ also suffered while he was here..not just the cross but he also lost his father and he weeped over him, he knows the pain of losing a loved one. But i want you to think on this question...Did God raise Jesus Christ from the dead? Yes he did, and that being the case, Jesus defeated death, hell, and the grave. His ressurection brings us much comfort and hope. I'd also like you to think on this, It's safe to say that the online community here are part of the body of Christ, reading through these replys I see nothing but love, prayer, and comfort coming from people who havent even met you, and to no gain what so ever...but the body loves and cares for eachother...in my honest opinon, these messages of love and prayer, and encouragmeent are a portion of Gods acting force and comfort to you. The arms are part of the body correct? Well here we are opening them to you. Let this be the starting point =)
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 4:04:58 PM
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Sorry to hear of your present sufferings. Nevertheless, as one also who suffers I see that Satan has asked God if we feared Him for no reason. We shall all die, some sooner than later but the one thing none of us who really see sin for what it is can ever say we do not deserve our present sufferings. In fact, in the light of the glory that shall be revealed in us our present sufferings are worthy in revealing the children of God and how all of creation awaits in great expectation that they be so in times of hopelessness rather than in times of comfort and peace. So you or your loved ones suffer and you lose faith in and hate God, so now suffer in silence and do not blaspheme that which you never believed in. Does not His comfort come only to those who need and desire it? Is not Gods power made manifest in times such as these? The faith of those who have suffered for their love of Chirst has always said, "The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord." Christians have always suffered for their faith and had no regrets, for although they walk through the valley of the shadow of death they do not fear any evil, for their God is with them. Can you beleive it?
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 4:36:25 PM
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Oldwing
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Ashleyyy - I am a grandfather of two and just this spring I was, after a lifetime of perfect health, diagnosed with cancer. I was treated and the cancer was removed, but the surgery has left me physically challenged in ways I never expected. There is pain every day and my capacity to 'do' is severely diminished. But God is with me every step of the way, carrying me when I can no longer carry myself. I pray that your grandparents have accepted Jesus Christ as their savoir and that you will come to accept that the 'wheel of life' is often painful and difficult to ride. But it keeps on turning no matter how hard we may pray it to stop. Truth is, everyone dies. Its how one dies [with or without grace] and how their loved ones accept the natural pace of things that really matter. I pray for you and your family, that your grandparents find peace and freedom from pain and suffering, and that you find your way back to the belief that God is with your family no matter what... In Jesus Christ's name. Amen.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 6:22:54 PM
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Ashleyyy
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Thank you to everyone who replied, I really appreciate it. OneJohn410 - Grandma believes really strongly in God and she would always go to church when she was younger. I did tell her about how I'm feeling about God and she understands. Her nephew went through the same thing I'm going through right now [wavering in faith] But she's telling me to not let go of God which I've seemed to already let go a while back. KnowJesus - Thank you for that passage. I'll read it everyday & see if it improves how I feel. lightshineon - I'm sorry about your parents. I hope they get better. Thank you :) In_Him_Grace - I don't feel like he's comforting me. For the last year and a half it's been one bad thing after another. I haven't felt any comfort from him. Thanks for praying. Thessa - It's just really difficult to hold on to it right now. delete123 - Thank you :) jmjphe - Thanks for the prayer. I'm thankful that I found such nice people to talk to about all of this, I do appreciate it. It makes me feel a bit better knowing that a lot of these people on here have been through the same thing I have. But it's still difficult terryjohn - "Christians have always suffered for their faith and had no regrets, for although they walk through the valley of the shadow of death they do not fear any evil, for their God is with them." I've always heard that, but I don't know if right now I believe it. Oldwing - I'm so sorry to hear about all of that. I know and understand that people die, but it's the way that he's making the people I love suffer. I don't understand it... Thank you so much for replying.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 6:36:30 PM
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Loss is always personal, Ashley. It would be easy to say, “I know your pain,” but that’s too easily said; talk is cheap. Instead of sweet platitudes I offer this excerpt from the 17th priest, scholar and mystic, F. Fenlon: PRAYER—THE SECRET OF POWER Tell God all that is in your heart, as one unloads one’s heart, its pleasures and its pains, to a dear friend. Tell Him your troubles, that He may comfort you; tell Him your joys, that He may sober them; tell Him your longings, that He may purify them; tell him your dislikes, that he may help you to conquer them; talk to Him of your temptations, that He may shield you from them; show Him the wounds of your heart, that He may heal them; lay bare your indifference to good, your depraved taste for evil, your instability. Tell Him self-love makes you unjust to others, how vanity temps you to be insincere, how pride disguises you to yourself as to others. If you thus pour out all of your weaknesses, needs and troubles there will be no lack of what you say. You will never exhaust the subject. It is continually being renewed. People who have no secrets from each other never want for subjects of conversation. They do not weigh their words; for there is nothing to be held back; neither do they seek for something to say. They talk out of the abundance of the heart, without consideration, just what they think. Blessed are they who attain to such familiar and unreserved intercourse with God. Courage...
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 6:47:48 PM
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Oldwing - I'm so sorry to hear about all of that. I know and understand that people die, but it's the way that he's making the people I love suffer. I don't understand it... Thank you so much for replying. Romans 8:18 - For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 1 Cor. 1: 5-7 - 5. For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation abounds through Christ. 6. Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effective for enduring the same sufferings which we also suffer. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation. 7. And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/19/2008 7:23:20 PM
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Ashleyyy , God has heard you , thats why you have found us. He has given us a oppurtunity to love you also. Remember God wants you in heaven when your work here is done . If you dont feel Father comforting you step out of the boat he is waiting for you . We can give you a whole book of Gods Word that says what your going through is normal life ,your missing a vital part of it and that is Faith that God Plan is better than ours , we cant think in the Supernatural world that Our Father lives in. When i think of what your going through i just want to findmy knees on the floor and pouring my heart and soul out , giving him all my love , thoughts, conserns, and questions and he always answers always becouse he is Everything and expecially LOVE. Seven Years ago Me and my wife got off our honeymoon cruse ship to find out she had lung cancer , She lost half a lung but not her life Praise God . The day i brought her home my mother Died and i was just blown away and in a tail spin and looking for answers . In the next 3 years my wife was left blind in 1 eye by a eye surgery , broke her hip and her mother died of Kidney failure and i can look at these things today and say Praise God and Thank Jesus for his sacriface , Why you say becouse through all of the loss and heartache i found God and JesusChris and recieved salvation and i see the world totally diffrent ,I stepted out of the boat and gave it all to God and he gave me Love ,Peace , Joy ,Forgivness and Understanding . I pray that you will Talk to Our Father and Give it all to him in the name JesusChrist.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/20/2008 8:54:16 AM
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Hey Ashley... everyone has said wonderful things to you. I guess... yeah. They pretty much said everything. Bad things happen... God didn't promise things to be a bed of roses... but someday we'll be able to understand. Another thing. God isn't a god who LIKES to make people suffer. He's not a God who doesn't care about you, that's why he took your grandfather away. He doesn't NOT care about what you're going through. He cares. Now I don't know why things happen, but I know that he does have a plan for you - a plan to help and not to harm... and he's not a God who's watching from far above who just does things on whim. Don't be afraid to cry out to him.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/22/2008 8:10:28 PM
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Ashleyyy, I just want to start out by saying that I'm very sorry for what you're going through, there is no one that looks forward to losing a loved one, but knowing that person knows Christ, and that they are going to Heaven, a place that I long for, should be so comforting and that alone, should give you faith. Ashleyyy, I have read through all these loving peoples comments on here, and you were brought here for a reason. But the one thing I must ask you, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Ashleyyy I'm not trying to be harsh, especially at a time like this, but it's so important. I read where you want to blame God for what's taking place right now, and only the devil will cause a person to do that. He knows our weaknesses, He is the deceiver and the liar! But I can promise you this, if you have ask Jesus to come into your life, if you confess all to Him, and ask Him to cleanse you of all unrighteousness, and to give you understanding on what's going on, He is faithful enough to do so Ashleyyy. He is that friend that will never leave you nor forsake you, in your darkest hour, He can give you comfort that surpasses all understanding, that's a promise! But it begins with you. My best advice to you, is to stop entertaining the devil, and stop giving him credit, and you plant your feet firmly on the Word of God, you call out to Him, and He will answer you. We serve a God who has the answers to everything that we will ever face, but it begins with you. People can give you advice all day, but until you decide to stop blaming God, and decide to have a heart to heart talk with Him, and sometimes the best prayers begin with, "I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND LORD!" But guess what, He does! My heart goes out to you Ashleyyy and I'm praying for you, but we must all remember this, He never promised us an easy journey, but He has promised us a safe landing. He says, do not lean on your own understanding......and we sure don't live by what we feel, but stand firm, on the PROMISES He has made. So, I'm asking you today, to trust Him, He cannot, He will not and He is not capable of making a mistake. Even as Christians Ashleyyy, we still have choices to make, He gives us free will, He will not make you do anything, but I feel in my heart, He is saying Ashleyyy just trust me my child. Ashleyyy, the Lord can take something so tragic in our lives, and turn it into something that you never expected. You are in my prayers. Love, Misty
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/22/2008 8:44:41 PM
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You have to look at the positives, even if there is not a god, then still your grandmother is no longer living with the pain of a lost husband and that of her cancer. Her pains are no longer present, and that should make you happy.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/22/2008 10:20:19 PM
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Ashleyyy
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ORIGINAL: misty35 Ashleyyy, I just want to start out by saying that I'm very sorry for what you're going through, there is no one that looks forward to losing a loved one, but knowing that person knows Christ, and that they are going to Heaven, a place that I long for, should be so comforting and that alone, should give you faith. Ashleyyy, I have read through all these loving peoples comments on here, and you were brought here for a reason. But the one thing I must ask you, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Ashleyyy I'm not trying to be harsh, especially at a time like this, but it's so important. I read where you want to blame God for what's taking place right now, and only the devil will cause a person to do that. He knows our weaknesses, He is the deceiver and the liar! But I can promise you this, if you have ask Jesus to come into your life, if you confess all to Him, and ask Him to cleanse you of all unrighteousness, and to give you understanding on what's going on, He is faithful enough to do so Ashleyyy. He is that friend that will never leave you nor forsake you, in your darkest hour, He can give you comfort that surpasses all understanding, that's a promise! But it begins with you. My best advice to you, is to stop entertaining the devil, and stop giving him credit, and you plant your feet firmly on the Word of God, you call out to Him, and He will answer you. We serve a God who has the answers to everything that we will ever face, but it begins with you. People can give you advice all day, but until you decide to stop blaming God, and decide to have a heart to heart talk with Him, and sometimes the best prayers begin with, "I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND LORD!" But guess what, He does! My heart goes out to you Ashleyyy and I'm praying for you, but we must all remember this, He never promised us an easy journey, but He has promised us a safe landing. He says, do not lean on your own understanding......and we sure don't live by what we feel, but stand firm, on the PROMISES He has made. So, I'm asking you today, to trust Him, He cannot, He will not and He is not capable of making a mistake. Even as Christians Ashleyyy, we still have choices to make, He gives us free will, He will not make you do anything, but I feel in my heart, He is saying Ashleyyy just trust me my child. Ashleyyy, the Lord can take something so tragic in our lives, and turn it into something that you never expected. You are in my prayers. Love, Misty Yes, he is my Lord/Savior, but like I said throughout my other posts it's been hard to think of him in that way. I'm so upset and frustrated with him. I know he never promised us an easy journey, but I also don't think he promised something this hard. And right now, it's getting harder and harder to get close to him again. I can feel it slipping away and I have prayed and I've asked "why?" but I get no answer. I do feel alone, I don't feel like he's with me anymore...I felt that after my Grandpa died and it's just getting stronger as more and more things happen to my Grandma.
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RE: I think I lost my faith in God - 9/23/2008 12:55:02 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ashleyyy He doesn't stop suffering...I'm just at a loss about what to do. Isn't that exactly what He is doing by taking these people away is stoping their suffering, that is if they are saved, then they will be in heaven where there are no more tears for eternity.
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