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It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 5:31:25 PM
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ljmac
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 5:53:12 PM
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Dude, get over it! No sane person blames President Bush for CAUSING Katrina but rather for his slow response to the aftermath. Remember his glowing remark about FEMA's director?
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 6:02:23 PM
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ljmac
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Dude, get over it! No sane person blames President Bush for CAUSING Katrina but rather for his slow response to the aftermath. Remember his glowing remark about FEMA's director?
Dude, take a reading lesson. My entire post was about when people stay in a dangerous place during a hurricane, not the hurricane itself.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 6:09:58 PM
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It's President Bush's fault
Because obviously, he's the only one in existence to cast any blame to.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 7:24:17 PM
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If things go well with the repsonse to Gustav, will he get the credit?
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 7:29:53 PM
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
You mean the southern conservatives who built a city in the middle of a swamp? I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders, and there are other conservatives besides Bush that are responsible for the debacle.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 8:48:04 PM
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
It's not the same New Orleans. We have a real governor in charge and people are leaving. The levees are in the process of being improved by the way. Please, it's not anything near what it was when the Democrat idiot BlanKo was in charge.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 8:49:12 PM
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
You mean the southern conservatives who built a city in the middle of a swamp? I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders, and there are other conservatives besides Bush that are responsible for the debacle.
You all need to read up on the geopolitics of New Orleans. It's built there because of it's location at the mouth of the Mississippi.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 8:58:41 PM
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
You mean the southern conservatives who built a city in the middle of a swamp? I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders, and there are other conservatives besides Bush that are responsible for the debacle.
You all need to read up on the geopolitics of New Orleans. It's built there because of it's location at the mouth of the Mississippi.
On land the Homa Indians had better sense than to settle. If it weren't for all the levee's keeping the river in it's place, the course of the Mississippi would have continued wandering back and forth across the Delta area.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 10:53:27 PM
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I like Dubya, and people hate him because it is popular thing to do. I am going to write him a letter to tell him, I appreciate him and to keep his chin up. People disgust me putting him down, is mob rule.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/30/2008 11:22:44 PM
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I like Dubya, and people hate him because it is popular thing to do.
I have read many reasons why people don't like him. Some are pretty weak and petty, some are more substantive. I have yet to run into people that hate him just because it is a popular thing to do.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:00:55 AM
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ljmac
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
You mean the southern conservatives who built a city in the middle of a swamp? I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders, and there are other conservatives besides Bush that are responsible for the debacle.
Has New Orleans ever had a Republian mayor? I doubt it. Since the era following the Civil War, when Republicans stopped Democrats from oppressing black voters, Louisiana has had three Republican govenors. All the others have been Democrats.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:04:00 AM
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ljmac
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
You mean the southern conservatives who built a city in the middle of a swamp? I guess you've got a point; conservatives aren't all that bright as builders, and there are other conservatives besides Bush that are responsible for the debacle.
You all need to read up on the geopolitics of New Orleans. It's built there because of it's location at the mouth of the Mississippi.
It's below sea level. Fine if someone wants to live there, but don't blame other people when water comes in. You decided to live below sea level on the "mouth of the Mississippi."
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:44:15 AM
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For those who need gasoline and other petrochemical products, don't whine when it's more expensive than it is now.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:47:16 AM
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,Brother, I have to disagree with you on this one. The liberal media has just as much influence on adults, as Brittney and Paris do on our young girls. I would hate to be GWB people in my opinion, are mean just like kids on a playground bullying the outcast. That is hard to deny is it not?
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I like Dubya, and people hate him because it is popular thing to do.
I have read many reasons why people don't like him. Some are pretty weak and petty, some are more substantive. I have yet to run into people that hate him just because it is a popular thing to do.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:51:47 AM
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People disgust me putting him down, is mob rule.
If you mean some of the over the top stuff like Bush=Fascist, Bush=Racist and other purely hateful stuff I'm with you. But if you're including people who have profound disagreements with him on the "War on Terror", the provisions of the Patriot Act, the War in Iraq (both the decision to go and the execution of said war), our unilateral actions in the world, our refusal to negotiate with some rogue nations, the invocation of executive privilege etc. then I can't agree. Freedom vs Security and hardline vs diplomacy is a debate that will go on as long as countries have relatively free forms of government. I think reasonable people can disagree on such matters and both sides have merits, especially from a moral perspective.
He does deserve credit for preventing a second terrorist attack on our soil. He seems like a nice man with conviction who will do whatever he must to bring about the good he seeks. However, he is not above harsh criticism of his actions as president (keep in mind I'm not offering that here, simply asserting that it is not wrong to do so). I do feel that the blaming him for everything, the war crimes, fascism and racism stuff needs to go along with the more petty "look how stupid he is" junk (though his verbal and other occasional gaffes are fair game to poke fun at, no one is above being 'razzed").
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 1:01:38 AM
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Even with school children it is popular to hate, and put him down. He has helped with aides, signed laws against partial birth abortions. I also think he has saved us, with the direction of the Lord from terrorist attacks. I think good naturered joking is ok, but this rage and hate against him is sinful.
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People disgust me putting him down, is mob rule.
If you mean some of the over the top stuff like Bush=Fascist, Bush=Racist and other purely hateful stuff I'm with you. But if you're including people who have profound disagreements with him on the "War on Terror", the provisions of the Patriot Act, the War in Iraq (both the decision to go and the execution of said war), our unilateral actions in the world, our refusal to negotiate with some rogue nations, the invocation of executive privilege etc. then I can't agree. Freedom vs Security and hardline vs diplomacy is a debate that will go on as long as countries have relatively free forms of government. I think reasonable people can disagree on such matters and both sides have merits, especially from a moral perspective.
He does deserve credit for preventing a second terrorist attack on our soil. He seems like a nice man with conviction who will do whatever he must to bring about the good he seeks. However, he is not above harsh criticism of his actions as president (keep in mind I'm not offering that here, simply asserting that it is not wrong to do so). I do feel that the blaming him for everything, the war crimes, fascism and racism stuff needs to go along with the more petty "look how stupid he is" junk (though his verbal and other occasional gaffes are fair game to poke fun at, no one is above being 'razzed").
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 1:30:12 AM
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Rufas2000
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Even with school children it is popular to hate, and put him down. He has helped with aides, signed laws against partial birth abortions. I also think he has saved us, with the direction of the Lord from terrorist attacks. I think good naturered joking is ok, but this rage and hate against him is sinful.
He has become an object of ridicule and that is unfortunate (I think much of it is in a gray area between good natured and malicious or disrespectful). Rage and hate are always sinful, regardless of the target. And we should be respectful of our leaders.
However he has made several tough decisions while in office. Those decisions are loved by some and hated by others. My point is that much of the criticism that he receives is more due to his policies and actions than hatefulness (although I will admit the lines are often blurred). I don't think its wrong to criticize him harshly as long as it is based on his actions and not on him as a person. And if someone is going to take him to task for what they believe he does wrong then they should also be willing to point out when he does something well. Its only fair.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 2:37:37 AM
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Gustav is now taking aim ! ... Are they back in Israel forcing land to the palestinians again ?
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 5:25:23 AM
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Well, during his presidency...I had three flat tires. That's his fault. And since the surge in Iraq...I haven't had any flat tires. That's also his fault.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 5:56:46 AM
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
Sure its his fault...lol!
I guess thats what you will say when it happens to ur town too. Some people always have to have someone to blame dont they?
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I know what you mean. Isnt that mean of him to do that? LOL!
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I find it funny that Bush haters think hes an idiot but they think he can control the weather. And also that he concocted 9/11. Gimme a break already. Its really getting old now...
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 9:00:48 AM
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If things go well with the repsonse to Gustav, will he get the credit?
No.
It will all go to the new Guvnuh Jendal.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 11:24:31 AM
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ljmac
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I just want to prove I'm on the cutting edge of liberal theology. For the record, it's George Bush's fault for whatever happens when people build a city below sea level, refuse to modernize a system to keep out the water, ignore hurricane warnings for days, and stay precisely where it is most dangerous.
Sure its his fault...lol!
I guess thats what you will say when it happens to ur town too. Some people always have to have someone to blame dont they?
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everythingat - LOL!
I know what you mean. Isnt that mean of him to do that? LOL!
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I find it funny that Bush haters think hes an idiot but they think he can control the weather. And also that he concocted 9/11. Gimme a break already. Its really getting old now...
With liberals, blame belongs to anyone but the person responsible.
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 11:32:18 AM
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huangshan
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With liberals, blame belongs to anyone but the person responsible.
...but by your logic, liberals would never blame Bush for anything!
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RE: It's President Bush's fault - 8/31/2008 12:31:51 PM
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SteveSund
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,Brother, I have to disagree with you on this one. The liberal media has just as much influence on adults, as Brittney and Paris do on our young girls. I would hate to be GWB people in my opinion, are mean just like kids on a playground bullying the outcast. That is hard to deny is it not?
I would agree that there are a whole range of feelings towards the president, which seems to be par for the course for the president. I certainly don't think nasty comments and name calling is productive, but I believe that reasonable minds may differ on the policies of the president.
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