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Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 11:31:42 AM
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wareaglekd
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Have any of ya'll ever heard of this term? Sums it up just right. My son & many young men in my church are having major life issues because of not being able to get their head's on straight about women. They are making awful choices for girl friends & don't seem to care what anyone thinks of it. I desperately need information from the single men out there that survived this phase of life (my son is 22, but the young men in my church are as young as 18). I do a lot of praying & so is the church, but for us moms it's still tough. kd
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 11:35:07 AM
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 12:47:37 PM
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What's the "Jezebel Syndrome"? Never heard of that one...
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 12:50:02 PM
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I would also like to know.
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 3:36:43 PM
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I was told this from someone I know at church. Basically, it's a young man captivated by the woes of a woman to the point he will do anything & everything for her, even if it destroys him. kd
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/4/2008 4:54:22 PM
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quote:
Jezebel Syndrome quote:
I was told this from someone I know at church. Basically, it's a young man captivated by the woes of a woman to the point he will do anything & everything for her, even if it destroys him.
Hi There...
First I just want to encourage you all never stop praying for your children.
Men and women alike are being deceived by seduction of this world system. Men are just as guilty of what you state this woman is doing.
We must not always blame the other person... sometimes it is because of the sin within the person being drawn own heart. Yes, people are being drawn away by the influence of another because of sin within their own flesh.
Of course, women should dress modest... but men should also practice guarding their eyegate... as women should protect their eargate. Men are drawn through the eyes and women through the eargate via coversation. Just read about Samson drawn away for pagan woman by the lust of his own eyes... flesh... pride. Or Eve rebellion against what God instructed Adam and Her not to do, only through conversation with the serpent, convince her to give into what she wanted (Adam not rebuking his wife and obeying God's instruction was a great part of the fall).
As far as 'Jezebel Syndrome'... there is no such thing... however, people do behave wickedly like her. There is nothing new under the sun. So it would be wise for all to read about her to understand how the Lord would not want us to act.
It is not always about the gender of the individual. A jezebel attitude is an attitude of rebellion against the ways of God. The true and Living God. Remember it is written that rebellion is a the sin of witchcraft. They hate correction. They think their way is the right way and if you do not do it their way... well they will make you suffer destruction. When individuals seduces, manipulate or encourages people men or woman to do what they want them to do instead of what God commands (his Will) then they are corrupting and encouraging individuals to walk in disobedience.
It is not always about a way a person dresses or acts. It is a spirit of manipulation... controlling others to do the will of the controller. Ministries have been know to rebel against the will of God and control others. In fact, may we all apply this to how we encourage each other in following hard after Jesus Christ and representing His Holy Name. If we too, whether Pastors or fellow lay-person(s), do not what to Lord over people... for that would be just as bad as a controller. No we want to encourage people to want to live Holy by our own lifestyle. Being the examples. Let our lifestyle be used by the Holy Spirit to convict the disobedient to change. So be careful and mindful how we live before others. It is difficult for hypocrites to encourage others to follow Christ. Below is instruction to leaders of the Church how to lead. Remember, you too are a leader in your sphere of influence. Whether in your household, job, social circle. Be the example first, eventually... others will come to their senses and change... if they are wise.
1 PETER 5:8:
I appeal to your spiritual leaders. I make this appeal as a spiritual leader who also witnessed Christ's sufferings and will share in the glory that will be revealed.
2.Be shepherds over the flock God has entrusted to you. Watch over it as God does: Don't do this because you have to, but because you want to. Don't do it out of greed, but out of a desire to serve.
3.Don't be rulers over the people entrusted to you, but be examples for the flock to follow.
4.Then, when the chief shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
5.Young people, in a similar way, place yourselves under the authority of spiritual leaders. Furthermore, all of you must serve each other with humility, because God opposes the arrogant but favors the humble.
6.Be humbled by God's power so that when the right time comes he will honor you.
7.Turn all your anxiety over to God because he cares for you.
8.Keep your mind clear, and be alert. Your opponent the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion as he looks for someone to devour.
9.Be firm in the faith and resist him, knowing that other believers throughout the world are going through the same kind of suffering.
10.God, who shows you his kindness and who has called you through Christ Jesus to his eternal glory, will restore you, strengthen you, make you strong, and support you as you suffer for a little while.
11.Power belongs to him forever. Amen.
See example is very important. Again, a jezebel is an attitude and not always a way of dress or just an immoral woman. Calling it a syndrome is in error. It is a person aspiring to control others... therefore, sinful behavior. Even God gives us the freedom to choose... then suffer the consequences (thank God for Mercy and Grace). They want others to obey their demands and it is sometimes doesn't have anything to do with God's way. A person with a Jezebel attitude controls by force. Does not trust in the Lord to work out good in a situation. They are usually Impatient and does not wait.
In fact, sometimes wives knowingly or unknowingly try to control their husbands, children or circumstances through manipulation. Yep, it is a natural bent of ours. Woman have to guard themselves from trying to control their husbands all the time. It is innate and passed down via Eve... it is the sin nature. Again,  Adam should have rebuke her and stomp the serpent. So the very thing we are pointing our fingers at... or what we see in others is laced within all of our flesh. People want to play God and control others.
This woman Jezebel in the book of Kings... would not allow her husband to be a man... always wearing the pants. When you read the story about her it nevers talks about her being unfaithful or playing the harlot. What she does is turns her husband from following the ways of God and inticed him to follow and worship her gods....idolatry. When you read how she control him... it is easy to see how she call most of the shots.
When you read about Jezebel in revelation, it also shows how she cause people to cause sexual immorality.
So there are many layers to a Jezebel attitude. All individuals need to guard themselves from practicing controlling others or being controlled by false doctrine.
Just recognize what the word of God states about rebellion... study to show ourselves approved... renewing our minds not to practice rebellion against the wordl of God... therefore a form of witchcfraft.
I hope this help somewhat... any way here are some scriptures about her and what witchcraft is from the Word of God.
~Dolli Kemp
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1 Kings 16:31 NIV
He not only considered it trivial to commit the sins of Jeroboam son of Nebat, but he also married Jezebel daughter of Ethbaal king of the Sidonians, and began to serve Baal and worship him.
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1 Kings 18:19 NIV
Now summon the people from all over Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel. And bring the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah, who eat at Jezebel's table."
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1 Kings 19:1 NIV
[Elijah Flees to Horeb] Now Ahab told Jezebel everything Elijah had done and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword.
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1 Kings 19:2 NIV
So Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah to say, "May the gods deal with me, be it ever so severely, if by this time tomorrow I do not make your life like that of one of them."
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1 Kings 21:5 NIV
His wife Jezebel came in and asked him, "Why are you so sullen? Why won't you eat?"
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1 Kings 21:7 NIV
Jezebel his wife said, "Is this how you act as king over Israel? Get up and eat! Cheer up. I'll get you the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite."
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1 Kings 21:11 NIV
So the elders and nobles who lived in Naboth's city did as Jezebel directed in the letters she had written to them.
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1 Kings 21:14 NIV
Then they sent word to Jezebel: "Naboth has been stoned and is dead."
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2 Kings 9:22 NIV
When Joram saw Jehu he asked, "Have you come in peace, Jehu?" "How can there be peace," Jehu replied, "as long as all the idolatry and witchcraft of your mother Jezebel abound?"
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2 Kings 9:30 NIV
[Jezebel Killed] Then Jehu went to Jezreel. When Jezebel heard about it, she painted her eyes, arranged her hair and looked out of a window.
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2 Kings 9:36 NIV
They went back and told Jehu, who said, "This is the word of the LORD that he spoke through his servant Elijah the Tishbite: On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs will devour Jezebel's flesh.
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2 Kings 9:37 NIV
Jezebel's body will be like refuse on the ground in the plot at Jezreel, so that no one will be able to say, 'This is Jezebel.' "
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Revelation 2:20 NIV
Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.
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WHAT REBELLION IS... IT IS AS WITCHCRAFT... TRUSTING IN CONTROLLING CIRCUMSTANCES WITHIN YOUR FINITE HUMAN WISDOM... BOWWING DOWN TO HUMAN IDEALS AND WAYS.
~Dolli Kemp
Deuteronomy 18:14 NAS
"For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so. 1 Samuel 15:23 KJV
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
1 Samuel 15:23 KJVA
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
2 Kings 9:22 NIV
When Joram saw Jehu he asked, "Have you come in peace, Jehu?" "How can there be peace," Jehu replied, "as long as all the idolatry and witchcraft of your mother Jezebel abound?"
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/5/2008 2:00:56 AM
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Unfortunately, It sounds like your son is at that stage where he's going to have to learn a lot of lessons from the "School of Hard Knocks." I remember being very arrogant at that age (especially when it came to girls). I didn't necessarily have a close relationship with my father emotionally so I resisted his attempts to give me sound advice. God has since humbled me greatly through circumstances but I'm all the more wiser for it. Unfortunately, it's not just a phase for some people because they spend their entire lives never learning from their mistakes and running into one wall after the next. Pray that the Lord will teach yours son good judgment through the consequences of his bad judgment.
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/5/2008 1:59:50 PM
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I'm not quite sure what the Jezebell Syndrome is either. Is it perhaps he likes domineering and sexually dominant women? I think pretty much that's what Jezebell was in her life. Bad Girls can be somewhat intriguing to guys just like Bad Boys are to girls.
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/5/2008 2:18:07 PM
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I also think that if my son continues to act like a bad boy than he can expect to attract bad girls. Outward appearance can justify that. He wears torn up muscles shirts so his tats will show, shorts, & flip flops nearly all the time, well when he's not working. Well, I guess that's what he'll get back. He could attract better if he dressed right & acted right & most of all cared about the circles he hangs around in. kd
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/5/2008 10:30:00 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Sounds like his preference in this type of women is only one outward manifestation of his heart.
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/6/2008 2:26:08 PM
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I also think that if my son continues to act like a bad boy than he can expect to attract bad girls. Outward appearance can justify that. He wears torn up muscles shirts so his tats will show, shorts, & flip flops nearly all the time, well when he's not working. Well, I guess that's what he'll get back. He could attract better if he dressed right & acted right & most of all cared about the circles he hangs around in. kd
He may dress that way because it's still summer. if you don't mind me asking, how does he act like a bad boy? I'm curious as to how he does not act right.
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/8/2008 12:05:39 PM
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My son was saved at age 10. He started identifying heavily w/ school peers when he got to high school. Through that, he started having relationships w/ girls. He seems pretty dependent on that now. He just got out of a bad engagement in the spring & they had been living together off & on for 3 years. He started seeing this new girl, the day before she graduated from high school, less than a month after the breakup. He has never dated anyone that young (4 years younger). He seems to have no problem attracting girls that come from bad home environments. This girl really comes from a broken home. And now she is trying to live on her own & is unable to get into school due to still having to declare parents income. They will not help her w/ school. Her younger sister just had a baby. Anyway, my son has pretty much taken her in & dotes on her just like his last girlfriend. He can't find a thing wrong w/ this.
His behavior is difficult because he has a drinking problem. He gets very angry & has had fights due to it. I wish he would realize he needs help w/ this, but he doesn't seem to care.
My son did not have a father growing up. A lot of it to me has been the constant stirring rebellion & anger he has had against the man that rejected us. He never speaks this out loud (or hasn't since he was 4 years old). His means of escape have lead him to this behavior.
For the most part, he can be very polite & has never had a problem wrapping adults around his little finger (including the families of both of these girls). His attitude towards me is different because he thinks I actually hate all the girls he dates. His judgment is way too clouded.
You may be right about the summer time weather, but I just don't remember him being so sloppy in his attire in high school.....well, when he was living w/ me! k
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/8/2008 11:09:47 PM
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Wareaglekd,
I've never heard of the high school 'going together' or going steady called the Jezebel Syndrome. With a different past, I could very well have had a son or daughter in high school now. Whether someone was sheltered 'back in the day' of my high schooling or not, there's just no comparison to what is in the face of today's teen- and tween-agers. Today I saw TV 14 DSLV trash on a morning TV show featuring lifestyles of the rich and 'fun-loving?' Californians. I'll tell you what- not much at all left to the imagination- to the point of why bother and for all intents just kill the imagination altogether. That's really what that was about- why use your brain to realize what happens in our shop? Here, we'll show you. We don't want you to have to use your brain- why should you work it at all.
So, there's that going against today's kids, and then the cutesy little contestant 'game shows' so Suzie can determine who her best next boyfriend will be, or Ricardo his next girlfriend. That's how things can be solved these days- just make a game show out of life.
For the situation you face, and maybe you already do it, perhaps the concerned parents of all these guys could meet every so often and collectively pray about things? I really feel called to suggest this to you, since it sounds like you've got a sense of other parents facing the same challenge.
I do appreciate the documentation on the non-syndromatic Jezebel-like female, Jerryndolli. Should I encounter a Jezebel that is showing symptoms of being syndome-positive, I will immediately report her. 
God bless and best wishes on seeking to remind your son of God's love for him,
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/9/2008 10:16:07 AM
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My church fellowship is actively praying for all the young men that are behaving in this manner. It's so hard for us moms to be experiencing it. We have some young men in our fellowship (all brothers) that are practicing courtship & not dating until God prepares them for marriage. We are so proud of their parents & how well these young men have turned out. They are great examples, but the other young men just shrug all of this. kd
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/10/2008 7:24:25 AM
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My church fellowship is actively praying for all the young men that are behaving in this manner. It's so hard for us moms to be experiencing it. We have some young men in our fellowship (all brothers) that are practicing courtship & not dating until God prepares them for marriage. We are so proud of their parents & how well these young men have turned out. They are great examples, but the other young men just shrug all of this. kd
Yes, do continue to pray. But, please understand it is not always the young ladies. Men are just as bad, realize many men... have been used by the enemy to cause young girls to stumble into sin by speaking words of deceit. So let us realize that it really begins from the sin that is within each person's heart that cause them to be drawn into the deception of sinful behavior. Until, you realize that your son is just as guilty for manipulating... causing others to sin, you will not be able to help him. Parents need to realize our children are not born pure. They are sinners who stand in the need of prayer and have the same nature to cause others to fall into sin, just as others may have caused them to sin. There is none that are good, no not one. That is why we need a Saviour, oh wretched are we. These girls need Jesus, your son, we all need the Holy Spirit to help us to walk right with The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit... all three who are but one God.
In fact, why not begin to pray for the salvation of these various women or girls that he is seeing. God wants them saved too. What you pray and want for another person child (salvation for them)... God will have others praying for you children too. Have you ever thought that maybe someone may think your son has caused their daughter to sin... that he is a bad boy? I think God shows us each others sins and weakness so that we may intercede from them to come unto Jesus and commit their lives to him.
So might I suggest you begin to look at these women through the eyes of Jesus. Jesus is able to turn a rebellious loud person into a child of the Living God and praising his holy name. So let's stop stoning them and pray for them to come to know Jesus, as Mary the prositute did, or the woman caught in adultery, or with tax collector. Let us not be like the publican that said thank God I'm not the tax collector... look God I'm so good and pure.
Let God Judge these women and let us pray for their deliverance from darkness and for them to come into His Marvelous Light.
Don't get me wrong... I'm a step mother. But I remember when my husband got mad at a young man in his daughters life, thinking he was trying to get fresh with her. I stated parents need to stop and ask themselves, maybe it is their children being the bad influence on the other kids instead. I told him to ask the young man point blank... and the young man said it was his daughter with such thoughts. Parents
your children have minds of their own and sometimes the wrong behavior is conjured up from their own hearts and others.
Just something to think about. Man can also act like a jezebel... it is an attitude...a rebellious heart-->behavior, not a gender.
~Dolli
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RE: Jezebel Syndrome - 9/13/2008 10:52:39 AM
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Hello wareaglekd
Yes, I've heard of the Jezebel spirit. Basically, it's an extreme need to control everything and everyone around you. It causes strife wherever it's seen. I think the women's liberation movment may be instigated by this spirit.
But what you described, I don't think is this spirit. It seems to what you've described is a lack of sound biblical teaching in your church: salvation, baptims in water, baptism in the Holy Spirit. One who has sound biblical knowledge and has allowed the Holy Spirit to mold them will have good relationships, both of the opposite gender and one's own.
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