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Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/2/2008 7:39:28 PM
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Prairiehiker
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...all your mind and all your soul. What does that exactly look like? How do we do that? How do we manifest it in our daily lives? Do you find it difficult to do? I can't imagine that I've ever had an hour, never mind a day, that I loved God will of my being, and acted and thought as though I did.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/2/2008 7:55:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker ...all your mind and all your soul. What does that exactly look like? How do we do that? How do we manifest it in our daily lives? Do you find it difficult to do? I can't imagine that I've ever had an hour, never mind a day, that I loved God will of my being, and acted and thought as though I did. It is impossible in our own strength. It actually has to be Christ living His life of love in and through us to the Father. As I write this, I think of the prayer of Jesus in John 17. In that prayer to the Father He said that He had glorified the Father when He was here on earth, He had finished the work the Father had given Him to do, and He had manifested the name (character) of the Father to the apostles. It was a summation of His life of Love, as depicted, through the gospels, to the Father - the perfect demonstration, of course, being the cross... There is no higher calling the Christian has, nor anything more difficult - yes it is difficult!
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/2/2008 8:39:59 PM
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I wish I had a quick and easy answer for you . Moment by moment is the best I can offer. Staying focused on Him, in all, things is extremely difficult for me. I can say that I am more attuned and better at it than I used to be, however, it is not enough. I don't know what it looks like. I know what it feels like and it's awesome. You would think that feeling that way would make a person so want more and more of it. Well, I certainly do want to feel His presence like that constantly. There is just one problem with that.... I get in the way. The whole flesh and spirit war. I guess this is why life is called a journey. I have seen people who i thought were these super spiritual, got it all together people, only to find out later that it wasn't what I thought. My grandmother is this example. Growing up, I admired her and her faith. As I got older and now I see that it wasn't a lack of faith, just a different kind of faith. The more we grow, we transform. Sometimes we take three steps back just for Him to move us one step forward. As a kid watching, I couldn't understand that. Now I can see the refining process happening. The more we love God, the less we love ourselves. Slowly, we shed our nature. No matter how "super Christian" we are, there are things within us that we really don't want to let go of. Maybe that was too general of a statement: I have things that I don't really want to let go of. Does it mean that I don't love Him? No, the truth of it is, in that area I love that more. I certainly know that, that was not the "spiritually correct" answer, but it was truthful. I want to love Him with everything I am, everything that I have, yet I keep getting in the way. I pray that He will give me the willingness to let these things of the flesh go. At this point, to get to the place He wants me to be, this is where I have to start.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 12:19:28 AM
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The first word that comes to my mind is Love. Love is a verb. (An action word.) Love must be expressed! To Love the LORD our God with all of our heart, all of our soul, all of our mind, and all of our strength, takes just what it says ~ "ALL." No less. It must be ALL. I think of God being a consuming fire! Not a little spark here and little flame there, no, a consuming fire! And our love, must be all encompassing on God! He is the first thing on our mind when we wake up in the morning! We walk and talk with Him throughout the day! We love His Word, and love to obey it! We have a closer relationship with Him than with anyone else! We Worship and Praise Him! We love Him more each day! No matter what we are doing, He is on our heart and mind! We long to be with Him forever! And we love and care about other people! Whatever we do to the least of these His brothers, that we do unto Him! Before God, we love usually on condition. When God comes in your life, everything changes! With God, we are full of love that grows and overflows!
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 7:59:11 AM
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We all are in different places in our walks and I think.....the difference isn't longevity of knowing Jesus....or knowing the bible...or doing ministries...or bible studies....or prayer life. Its how much we love God. What would to do for your spouse? Your parents? Your children? Our love for God is bigger than that. Our love for God is even bigger than our.....sins. aha Our love for God is even bigger than our ability to follow Him.. Aha Our love for God is so big, it cannot be contained. We must share Him with others. We must sanctify ourselves. We must give. AHA Man, once you got dat love? You got it all man, it all.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 12:21:53 PM
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SonIn Me1, quote:
Our love for God is so big, it cannot be contained. We must share Him with others. We must sanctify ourselves. We must give. A thousand Amens!!!!!!
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 2:18:09 PM
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I can't imagine that I've ever had an hour, never mind a day, that I loved God will of my being, and acted and thought as though I did. There are generally two ways that people deal with this command of Jesus and the other command that goes with it, to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Many people say that Jesus wouldn't have given us these commands if he didn't expect us to carry them out, so we'd better get with it or else, because if we can't perfectly obey these two simple little commands, how can we consider ourselves to be saved? But then Paul comes along and helps to clarify the difference between law and gospel, for example, Romans 3:20 -- "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." So, if we carefully examine ourselves, we see that we aren't really loving God with all of our being every moment of the day, and we aren't really loving every neighbor as much as we love ourselves every moment of the day. This forces us to rely on the righteousness from God that comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law." (Romans 3:28) Of course, having been justified by faith and not the law, the law is a guide for our sanctification, but most Christians see sanctification as an ongoing process which will not be perfected in this lifetime. Thus, even as justified Christians who "have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand," (Romans 5:1-2) the law still leads us to daily repentance as we live out our sanctification.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 3:10:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: x_SoliDeoGloria_x quote:
There are generally two ways that people deal with this command of Jesus and the other command that goes with it, to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Many people say that Jesus wouldn't have given us these commands if he didn't expect us to carry them out, so we'd better get with it or else, because if we can't perfectly obey these two simple little commands, how can we consider ourselves to be saved? But then Paul comes along and helps to clarify the difference between law and gospel, for example, Romans 3:20 -- "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." So, if we carefully examine ourselves, we see that we aren't really loving God with all of our being every moment of the day, and we aren't really loving every neighbor as much as we love ourselves every moment of the day. This forces us to rely on the righteousness from God that comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law." (Romans 3:28) Of course, having been justified by faith and not the law, the law is a guide for our sanctification, but most Christians see sanctification as an ongoing process which will not be perfected in this lifetime. Thus, even as justified Christians who "have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand," (Romans 5:1-2) the law still leads us to daily repentance as we live out our sanctification. This was beautifully stated. I couldn't say it any better.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 4:09:56 PM
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Prairiehiker
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ORIGINAL: x_SoliDeoGloria_x quote:
I can't imagine that I've ever had an hour, never mind a day, that I loved God will of my being, and acted and thought as though I did. There are generally two ways that people deal with this command of Jesus and the other command that goes with it, to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Many people say that Jesus wouldn't have given us these commands if he didn't expect us to carry them out, so we'd better get with it or else, because if we can't perfectly obey these two simple little commands, how can we consider ourselves to be saved? But then Paul comes along and helps to clarify the difference between law and gospel, for example, Romans 3:20 -- "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." So, if we carefully examine ourselves, we see that we aren't really loving God with all of our being every moment of the day, and we aren't really loving every neighbor as much as we love ourselves every moment of the day. This forces us to rely on the righteousness from God that comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law." (Romans 3:28) Of course, having been justified by faith and not the law, the law is a guide for our sanctification, but most Christians see sanctification as an ongoing process which will not be perfected in this lifetime. Thus, even as justified Christians who "have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand," (Romans 5:1-2) the law still leads us to daily repentance as we live out our sanctification. Are we sinning then on those moments that we're not loving God with all that we have? I think we do. That's why we need the grace of God. But we still should strive to love Him, don't we? Again, what does that look like? HOw does that feel like?
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 4:41:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker But we still should strive to love Him, don't we? Again, what does that look like? HOw does that feel like? Actually, when I am loving God as I should it is not a striving at all. It is a place of rest... That does not mean that I might not have a momentary battle with my flesh. It is just being an empty vessel (empty of self) but full of the Holy Spirit. It is the Spirit of the Living God loving God in and through me. It will look like Jesus of Nazareth as depicted in the gospels - how He loved the Father. I wonder if it might help you to re-read the gospel of John and note how much Jesus makes reference to His Father and His relationship with the Father. Have you ever asked God to fill you with His Holy Spirit? You will know when you are full of the Holy Spirit
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 4:44:54 PM
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deliveredarling
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It looks like How Jesus is shown in the Bible. That's the best example one could give. If we look to man for that, there will come a time when we will be disappointed. Jesus will never disappoint us or let us down. I can't explain how it feels because I've only been privileged with what I call "God glimpses". Those moments that are unmistakable and leave you wanting more and more and more.....
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/3/2008 7:10:54 PM
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I would caution anyone who has an emotional experience to consider it carefully before acting. While its true the Holy Spirit guidence can be emotional, its also true that emotional responses can be confused for the leading of the Holy Spirit. We must be discerning
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You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. James 4:4
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/4/2008 9:17:13 AM
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What does that exactly look like? The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it? John Wesley divided his day into 15 minute segments, and coded them numerically. He had a code for each activity, and a rating scale to evaluate the passion he put into each activity. I can fault him for being obsessive -- but his achievements were far greater than mine. OTOH, I have a happy wife & children. Let me add G K Chesterton's thoughts on "the inner light:" quote:
Only the other day I saw in an excellent weekly paper of Puritan tone this remark, that Christianity when stripped of its armour of dogma (as who should speak of a man stripped of his armour of bones), turned out to be nothing but the Quaker doctrine of the Inner Light. Now, if I were to say that Christianity came into the world specially to destroy the doctrine of the Inner Light, that would be an exaggeration. But it would be very much nearer to the truth. The last Stoics, like Marcus Aurelius, were exactly the people who did believe in the Inner Light. Their dignity, their weariness, their sad external care for others, their incurable internal care for themselves, were all due to the Inner Light, and existed only by that dismal illumination. Notice that Marcus Aurelius insists, as such introspective moralists always do, upon small things done or undone; it is because he has not hate or love enough to make a moral revolution. He gets up early in the morning, just as our own aristocrats living the Simple Life get up early in the morning; because such altruism is much easier than stopping the games of the amphitheatre or giving the English people back their land. Marcus Aurelius is the most intolerable of human types. He is an unselfish egoist. An unselfish egoist is a man who has pride without the excuse of passion. Of all conceivable forms of enlightenment the worst is what these people call the Inner Light. Of all horrible religions the most horrible is the worship of the god within. Any one who knows any body knows how it would work; any one who knows any one from the Higher Thought Centre knows how it does work. That Jones shall worship the god within him turns out ultimately to mean that Jones shall worship Jones. Let Jones worship the sun or moon, anything rather than the Inner Light; let Jones worship cats or crocodiles, if he can find any in his street, but not the god within. Christianity came into the world firstly in order to assert with violence that a man had not only to look inwards, but to look outwards, to behold with astonishment and enthusiasm a divine company and a divine captain. The only fun of being a Christian was that a man was not left alone with the Inner Light, but definitely recognized an outer light, fair as the sun, clear as the moon, terrible as an army with banners.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/4/2008 11:45:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker ...... "all your mind and all your soul." What does that exactly look like? How do we do that? How do we manifest it in our daily lives? Do you find it difficult to do? Please read this post slowly to hopefully understand my intended meaning: Jesus loved us with all his heart, soul and mind and the pictures this conjures up in my mind are: this, Please click on and you will understand. this, this and THIS! God left the realms of glory to come to save this horribly cruel and sinful world ...... He made Himself a vulnerable baby and identified in every way with mankind ...... The sinless One paid the ultimate price at Calvary for you and me in order to reconcile us with God ...... He rose again setting us free from sin's grip giving us hope and a future. Hallelujah - sin and death no longer bind us. So the OP "What does loving God with all our mind and soul look like exactly?" It looks like "freedom" to me.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/4/2008 10:14:22 PM
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I'm looking for evidence in our lives that we love God with all that I have. I guess, talking about it doesn't do anything for me. Or showing pictures. But actual evidences, changes in how I think, do things, love people, that shows that my heart is developing this deep love for God. I know that when people talk about sin, they talk about sinful acts like murder, or lying. But they people don't talk about the sin of not loving God with all that they have because this sin isn't so obvious.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/6/2008 5:49:08 PM
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Being honest with God.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/6/2008 10:38:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker ...all your mind and all your soul. What does that exactly look like? How do we do that? How do we manifest it in our daily lives? Do you find it difficult to do? John 21:17: He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. I've always thought this verse as very profound. If we love Him, we will do as He says and in Peter's situation and ours as well, we are to be a reflection of Christ... food to a starving world. However, we cannot adequately do as He says if we do not love Him as we should so we must be fed... first with a bottle and then we take on the meat and in our growth, we learn to trust the Lord and a love develops for Him and the lost that suprises us.
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/8/2008 9:47:21 AM
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To me, loving God with all our hearts involves walking in faith. We love God when we endure a trial that He uses to draw us closer to Him because His word says that "love endures all things". We may not feel love for Him, but I think we love Him when we allow Him to refine us. This takes faith to move beyond our feelings, which is so important since His word also says that "without faith it is impossible to please Him" God Bless!!
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/8/2008 9:59:07 AM
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part of song (author unknown to me): Moment by moment One step at a time He's changing my heart And renewing my mind. God WILL do it if we but let Him. -
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RE: Loving God with all your heart.... - 5/15/2008 5:46:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker I'm looking for evidence in our lives that we love God with all that I have. I guess, talking about it doesn't do anything for me. Or showing pictures. But actual evidences, changes in how I think, do things, love people, that shows that my heart is developing this deep love for God. I know that when people talk about sin, they talk about sinful acts like murder, or lying. But they people don't talk about the sin of not loving God with all that they have because this sin isn't so obvious. If I love God, it is only because He put this love in my heart. AND.... if it isn't on the inside, it won't be on the outside. (see James 2:18) so what does that look like? ... a good definition is in 1st Cor 13, but a good gage of this is the parable of the sheep and the goats. Mt 25:31 the difference between the sheep and the goats is what they did, and didn't do........ straight from doer!!!!
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