Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death Toll Rises
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Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death Toll R... - 9/13/2008 6:01:01 PM
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gaylel1
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I don't know if anyone gotten wind of this story, but yesterday there was a terrible accident in Southern California.
At last, the count is 20 dead.
Click here for the story.
Pray for the victim's families and also the families whose members were killed. Many of these people were working and were going to school.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/14/2008 2:30:40 PM
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Szaftoo
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Gayle, I will continue to pray for the families of those who lost a loved one and also for police and fire departments. My city lost four people and we are doing what we can to help and provide for them.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 11:44:37 AM
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Recently, I just heard that the Metrolink accident have more to do with a text message than a engineer's mistake. I'll have to look it up on Yahoo! News.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 11:50:18 AM
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Here's the link as promised:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_re_us/train_collision
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 1:06:31 PM
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The Metrolink spokeperson said that he should have received a yellow warning before the "red" that would have signalled an imminent crash. This is why they need to have engines on both ends of these things so the engineer can actually be looking at the track ahead of them instead of having time to text.
I'm sure that this guy's cell phone records (especially his work time text messages) will be under great scrutiny! It unfortunately is sounding like inattention and negligence on the driver's part.
25 dead! He should be charged with 25 counts of manslaughter!
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 1:19:32 PM
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i read in a news story today that the guy was possibly texting and it interfered with him being able to receive the danger signal. the kids he was texting to have it on their phone that they received text messages just before the accident.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 1:42:37 PM
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This is why they need to have engines on both ends of these things so the engineer can actually be looking at the track ahead of them instead of having time to text.
Actually, the train was in "pull mode" meaning that the locomotive was leading the train. Even in "push mode" (locomoitve shoving on the rear of the train in reverse) the engineer would have a clear view of the track ahead because he or she would be seated at the end of the last car which is now in the lead (this unit is knonw as an Auxilliar Power Car Unit or some variaton thereof) and is outfited with controls that govern the locomotive's functions. The debate over having an engine on both ends has to do with the locomotive prividing some crash portection as it would theoretically take more of the impact. In this case, however, the impact was so bad that the locomotive was actually driven back into the first car! The bottom line is that when you take controls of even the smallest locomotive, you are assuming an awsome responsiblity. One could only wonder what must have run throgh this guy's head when he finally looked up to see a Union Pacific SD80MAC in his face. What a tragedy.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 2:08:48 PM
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This is why they need to have engines on both ends of these things so the engineer can actually be looking at the track ahead of them instead of having time to text.
Actually, the train was in "pull mode" meaning that the locomotive was leading the train. Even in "push mode" (locomoitve shoving on the rear of the train in reverse) the engineer would have a clear view of the track ahead because he or she would be seated at the end of the last car which is now in the lead (this unit is knonw as an Auxilliar Power Car Unit or some variaton thereof) and is outfited with controls that govern the locomotive's functions. The debate over having an engine on both ends has to do with the locomotive prividing some crash portection as it would theoretically take more of the impact. In this case, however, the impact was so bad that the locomotive was actually driven back into the first car! The bottom line is that when you take controls of even the smallest locomotive, you are assuming an awsome responsiblity. One could only wonder what must have run throgh this guy's head when he finally looked up to see a Union Pacific SD80MAC in his face. What a tragedy.
I tried to discern that from looking at the photos of the accident (I couldn't see the engine in the photos) and the way the passenger cars were torn apart. Thinking about it, you're probably right since they usually pull to go towards Union Station and push going out from there. Silver lining to that is that if it were in push mode there definitely would have been more dead!
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 8:10:54 PM
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I tried to discern that from looking at the photos of the accident (I couldn't see the engine in the photos) and the way the passenger cars were torn apart. Thinking about it, you're probably right since they usually pull to go towards Union Station and push going out from there. Silver lining to that is that if it were in push mode there definitely would have been more dead!
After looking at the photos, it seems that the cab of the Union Pacific engine received considerably less damage than that of the Metrolink locomotive. It is unclear to me if any of the UP crew perrished in the accident however. But beyond that, I was moved by the pictures of the whole scene. Among the dead was a youth pastor. A lot of innocent people suffered because of what appears to be one man's negligence.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/15/2008 10:43:40 PM
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25 dead! He should be charged with 25 counts of manslaughter!
It's tough to prosecute a dead man.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/17/2008 7:28:19 AM
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According the the NTSB, the commuter train's brakes were not applied before the accident which tells me that the engineer was giving his full attention to something other than operating the train. Thankfuly, the UP freight train did make an effort to at least slow down; it could have been a much worse accident if they didn't. Folks, these things are huge, gigantic, powerful machines that lug around some extremely heavy loads. To see something of that scale reduced to near rubble is humbling.
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RE: Metrolink Accident In Southern California, Death To... - 9/17/2008 8:30:44 AM
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mapachito13
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25 dead! He should be charged with 25 counts of manslaughter!
It's tough to prosecute a dead man.
-Dan.
I didn't know that fact when I posted. I guess he paid the ultimate price for his lack of attention.
But I will pray for his family as well as all the victims' families because their loss is no less. They may feel even worse knowing that he may have been responsible for the accident.
They are running stories in the local news about some of the passengers who either escaped an earlier accident or were victims of an earlier Metrolink accident. I wonder if they are still going to ride the rails?
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