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Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 11:03:25 AM
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freakofnature
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Apparently there is some question as to whether Obama is a legit. American Citizen.
See HERE
AND HERE
Should Obama release his Birth Certificate?
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 11:22:14 AM
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Yes.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 11:23:05 AM
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No. What would be the point?
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 11:35:21 AM
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The point is that Barak Obama may not be a legal U.S. Natural Born Citizen as per the law on the books when he was born. Reading from another blog a member pointed out that at the time BHO was born the law on the books until November 13, 1986 is that the POTUS requirments are that you are a natural born citizen if the child was not born to TWO U.S. Citizen Parents. If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of birth that parent must have resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years of which five years had to be after the age of 16. Baraks mom was only 18 when he was born which means that though she had been a U.S. Citizen for more that 10 years, she did not acceed the 5 year period after becoming 16. IOW, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 12:06:40 PM
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The point is that Barak Obama may not be a legal U.S. Natural Born Citizen as per the law on the books when he was born. Reading from another blog a member pointed out that at the time BHO was born the law on the books until November 13, 1986 is that the POTUS requirments are that you are a natural born citizen if the child was not born to TWO U.S. Citizen Parents. If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of birth that parent must have resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years of which five years had to be after the age of 16. Baraks mom was only 18 when he was born which means that though she had been a U.S. Citizen for more that 10 years, she did not acceed the 5 year period after becoming 16. IOW, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.
From a political standpoint... no one is questioning his citizenship but a few bloggers in cyberspace (who already hate him). Showing his papers because of this would be pandering to them and would not make the people who hate him feel differently. The people who support him are not worried about it. And the people who have any power in the situation don't seem concerned.
I am certain that if this were truly an issue, Clinton would have had him booted from the campaign trail months ago.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 1:10:22 PM
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I have seen this hashed thru elsewhere and Obama is legal.
And they went thru the republican candidate that was born in the Panama Canal district.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 1:26:10 PM
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I have seen this hashed thru elsewhere and Obama is legal.
And they went thru the republican candidate that was born in the Panama Canal district.
So, we can agree that neither McCain nor Obama are legal citizens and that the next President will be an immigrant, thus finally making the Constitution null and void, causing the President to disolve Congress and declare martial law and have the military confiscate all the firearms and beer and renaming the country the Oliver Stone States of America, Inc. (OSSAI) and the President will appoint Tommy Chong Secretary of Agriculture and Hal Lindsey to the new cabinet-level posituion of Secretary of Paranoia.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 1:40:13 PM
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So, we can agree that neither McCain nor Obama are legal citizens and that the next President will be an immigrant, thus finally making the Constitution null and void, causing the President to disolve Congress and declare martial law and have the military confiscate all the firearms and beer and renaming the country the Oliver Stone States of America, Inc. (OSSAI) and the President will appoint Tommy Chong Secretary of Agriculture and Hal Lindsey to the new cabinet-level posituion of Secretary of Paranoia.
Ahh! Cow... Sarcasm! But to which angle? Actually, the McCain thing has been hashed out pretty well, the left loved it until the quote:
the U.S. Senate unanimously declared John S. McCain III a "natural-born citizen," eligible to be president of the United States.
See full article here
But why won't they then do same for BHO?
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 3:28:05 PM
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I think all candidates for president should be fully open and support their claim for elgibility to run for the postion.
A valid birth certificate should be one of the required and public records.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/10/2008 6:32:58 PM
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So, we can agree that neither McCain nor Obama are legal citizens and that the next President will be an immigrant, thus finally making the Constitution null and void, causing the President to disolve Congress and declare martial law and have the military confiscate all the firearms and beer and renaming the country the Oliver Stone States of America, Inc. (OSSAI) and the President will appoint Tommy Chong Secretary of Agriculture and Hal Lindsey to the new cabinet-level posituion of Secretary of Paranoia.
Ahh! Cow... Sarcasm! But to which angle? Actually, the McCain thing has been hashed out pretty well, the left loved it until the quote:
the U.S. Senate unanimously declared John S. McCain III a "natural-born citizen," eligible to be president of the United States.
See full article here
But why won't they then do same for BHO?
The resolution is non-binding, i.e., meaningless legally. My argument remains just as valid.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/11/2008 3:32:40 PM
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This is all moot, anyway. Someone (or some group) has been and is jockeying BO into power. So....even if he doesn't meet the constitutional criteria for presidency, who cares? They'll just change the constitution! After all, it's now considered a "living document" and can change and grow!
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/11/2008 4:09:01 PM
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This is all moot, anyway. Someone (or some group) has been and is jockeying BO into power. So....even if he doesn't meet the constitutional criteria for presidency, who cares? They'll just change the constitution! After all, it's now considered a "living document" and can change and grow!
BINGO! Bob... Tell 'er what she's won.
Darlene,... today you get the complete competancy that you know what is up and that the U.S. Government can't sneak passed you... A total value of... a life time of acceptance and knowing you can't do anything about it. But Darlene... Thanks for playin'
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/11/2008 5:19:01 PM
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I wonder if there will be a 'Deport Obama' 527 group out there this election?
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/12/2008 9:49:00 AM
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Thankfully, the Constitution is very difficult to amend, thus preventing Austrian Army deserters on steroids from taking the highest office in the country
And yet another contestant on the "Facts Don't Matter!" Today's show includes a man calling himself Cow451. COW! MOOOOOVE on up to the stage here. Mr. Cow (in a Bob Barker voice) For the Grand Prize: Can you tell me then Why Barak Hussein Obama is then allowed to hold office." (Jeopardy music starts) Dunt dunt dunt dunt, dunt dunt dun, Dunt dunt dunt dunt DUNT, danananana, dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt dun.. .Dunt dun dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt>> BOM BOM.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/12/2008 11:27:49 AM
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The 527's have a tough job because all the nutcase internet rumors are taken this year.
Didn't McLobby shut down the 527's already?
This is from the 14th amendment:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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RE: Questioning Obama's Citizenship? - 6/12/2008 11:30:49 AM
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Thankfully, the Constitution is very difficult to amend, thus preventing Austrian Army deserters on steroids from taking the highest office in the country
And yet another contestant on the "Facts Don't Matter!" Today's show includes a man calling himself Cow451. COW! MOOOOOVE on up to the stage here. Mr. Cow (in a Bob Barker voice) For the Grand Prize: Can you tell me then Why Barak Hussein Obama is then allowed to hold office." (Jeopardy music starts) Dunt dunt dunt dunt, dunt dunt dun, Dunt dunt dunt dunt DUNT, danananana, dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt dun.. .Dunt dun dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt>> BOM BOM.
Speaking of Facts that Don't Matter: If the citizenship is a real issue, some patriotic group ought to be filing briefs in someplace other than a dresser drawer. Hey freakofnature: COME ON DOWN!
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