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Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/11/2008 7:11:26 PM
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Glo-girl
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Hi all,
I am new to site and need advise on Christianity and dating a Jewish person.
I know that he knows I go to Church but we have not talked on the subject of Christ the Messiah or about anything around the subject. I have gone out with him to dinner and baseball games..nothing at all serious but I like him and want to share my faith with him. I have talked to other Jewish people regarding my faith and have had both good and bad feedback..should I engage now or wait later for this subject?
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 7:28:11 AM
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csl7037
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Great advise! I worked with a friend for several years who is Orthodox Jewish and we had many conversations. I always approached her with genuine interest. My college roommate was Messianic and I am genuinely fascinated by the Jewish faith and tradition - how could Christians not be? Being as strong and grounded in her faith as she was, she was always willing to chat with me but sometimes looked at my like I was from Mars. She really couldn't fathom why I was so interested. And there were times when she'd say something and I'd agree totally or I'd say how fantastic that was or I'd get all excited about something (knowing the true meaning of it, when she just saw it as tradition and took it a little for granted) - she thought that was weird.
There was certainly never an opportunity to "witness" to her. And I don't think I'm nearly knowledgable enough to get into much theology with her. But I thought it was important to love her and show her Christians are out looking to stone Jews but that I loved and appreciated her and her beliefs. I very much agree that it depends on where a person is in their faith - Jewish in name only and uneducated or if they're practicing and committed to their faith would be very different.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 12:42:00 PM
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Glo-girl
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Thanks for the advise! I will handle it as gingerly as possible.
I was raised a Catholic and then as I got older accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior
I have met people who will die for Catholism but do not really know what they are dying for. I have also met Catholics who are evangelist and have the holy spirit and are more in tune with Christ then some well meaning Christians..I guess it just depends on how serious you are about your conversion.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 1:51:23 PM
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deermousie
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Dating is one means of finding a mate, as rarely do people marry without spending time getting to know a person. A person of the Jewish faith is someone who is not born again - thus, a non-Christian. Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through Him, so this guy is not listed in the Lamb's Book of Life. God says to not be unequally yoked, as how can two walk together unless they be agreed. What fellowship does darkness have with light? As a Christian it would be violating God's will to marry a Jew or any other non-Christian. If he were a Messianic Jew who owned Jesus as his Messiah, you could marry him with God's full blessings because he would be God's.
Jewish people have a centuries-long history of not marrying outside their faith, so for this guy to be with you tells me he's not serious about his faith. That you are willing to date outside your faith gives him the same message about you. Does he know that the Christian faith is so sure that people are willing to sacrifice for it? He's not getting that message from you, but that you are luke-warm in your faith.
Look up what God says about luke-warm church-goers in Revelation 3:16 - God takes this very seriously.
Please, please, reconsider your life and your faith. Is God worthy of your faith in Him? Does He have a claim on your obedience and is His Word to be taken seriously? Is it worth sacrificing for?
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I will find it a great blessing if you ended up marrying him. Even if he doesn't come around, becoming one with a natural branch is exciting!
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I'm afraid this occasion calls for it: deliberately marrying a non-Christian is not exciting - it is disobedience. Obeying God is an important part of a believer's life, and the consequences could go on and on: good things from obeying and bad things from disobeying.
Please avoid the trainwreck of disobedience. It will hurt bad, and for a long time. God will give you His best (Ps. 84:11) as you walk in His ways, not your own.
Most things in life are a spiritual battle, and this situation is, too. Choose God and His ways, and be very blessed! I am praying for you today, dear one. (((Hugs)))
< Message edited by deermousie -- 8/12/2008 5:44:44 PM >
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 5:43:44 PM
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deermousie
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Missionary dating is not the best method of evangelism, as it puts the person doing the evangelism at risk of getting sucked into a relationship that is unequally yoked. Just sayin' - keep safe, dear one.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 6:31:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: deermousie
Dating is one means of finding a mate, as rarely do people marry without spending time getting to know a person. A person of the Jewish faith is someone who is not born again - thus, a non-Christian. Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through Him, so this guy is not listed in the Lamb's Book of Life.
I have to disagree with this statement, because in Revelation chapter 7, it distinctly states that 12,000 from each tribe will be saved in their Judiac belief and not needing a conversion.
Jewish people have a centuries-long history of not marrying outside their faith This is true, lol When I was 12 y/o a young jewish man was interested in me. My coloring fooled him, he thought I was jewish and when he learned otherwise I was dumped!
L Most things in life are a spiritual battle, and this situation is, too. If push came to shove would you give up Jesus and convert to Judaism, to be with this man. That's what it comes down to! You believe in Jesus and He doesn't. Do not marry on the pretense that you can change or convert him, it won't work
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Choose God and His ways, and Be very blessed!
CRH
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 8:34:55 PM
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csl7037
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ORIGINAL: deermousie
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I'm afraid this occasion calls for it: deliberately marrying a non-Christian is not exciting - it is disobedience. Obeying God is an important part of a believer's life, and the consequences could go on and on: good things from obeying and bad things from disobeying.
Please avoid the trainwreck of disobedience. It will hurt bad, and for a long time. God will give you His best (Ps. 84:11) as you walk in His ways, not your own.
I agree. Befriending and building a (non-romantic) relationship with a Jewish person is very exciting and can be very rewarding - if you can have open, loving discussions about faith and traditions. I say this about Judaism versus any other religion - there's actually a lot we can learn and share with Jewish people that can be a tremendous blessing. But marriage would be an entirely different business.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 9:50:30 PM
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csl7037
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Thank you for your comments deer. I understand what you are saying and yes I do disagree.
My honest opinion is that this is the reason why we as Christians are unable to reach out to the Jewish people. It is very clear in the bible that Yeshua will not come until all in Israel declares, "Blessed is He who come in the name of the L-rd!" The question is not if they will receive the Messiah. The question is just when. And you talk as both peoples are two different faiths. The purpose for G-d is for His chosen to become one with us eternally. We are very much the same. Read Romans and you will see that they are the natural branch and we are the grafted branch. So if we are grafted into the same tree with the same root, are we not the same family?
As Christians there is truly nothing to boast about when it comes to our faith in Yeshua. Paul warns us about boasting. If it weren't for their ignorance we wouldn't have been granted with the gift of salvation in the first place. There is nothing unequally yoked about our relationship with Jews. It's merely a delicate relationship that needs mending because of our ignornace.
To the OP, bottom line is to discern what G-d is telling you about this relationship. He is a chosen Jew...not a pagan atheist. 
I don't think that changes the warning not to be unequally yoked with an "unbeliever" - bottom line is a Jew is not a believer. They may come to the Lord in the end, at the second coming, but that doesn't make a Christian/Jewish marriage any less complicated or problematic in the here and now.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 11:36:45 PM
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Glo-girl
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Hi deer,
I agree with what you are saying about do not become easily yoked. I want to say that I have not ventured at all with this Man in anyway shape or form romantically. I do not know what God is doing, I do know that I am a Christian and I do intend to speak to him about Christ when the time is right. I also, know that some Jewish people have the faith of Abraham and can find God's favor. I am not trying to be a super Christian or am I in denial. I was married to a Pastor who left me for another woman! We can get hurt in our own congregation as well as fall into sin. I am a very level headed woman of God..not a push over or weak in any sense of the word..I have been celebate for 5 years..I just wanted to know how do I engage in conversation about Jesus, Yeshua, Adonai, Savior, Messiah, the risen Lord. I am no where near anything more..
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/12/2008 11:39:06 PM
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Glo-girl
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Thanks for the feedback, p.s what is O.P?
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/13/2008 1:27:22 PM
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A Jew that does not believe in Jesus is headed to hell the same as an atheist. Scripture is clear that the believer is not to be unequally yoked with an unbeliever. A romantic relationship with an unbeliever is headed in that direction.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/13/2008 2:25:24 PM
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The topic of this thread is how and when the OP should share her faith with her Jewish boyfriend. If you want to discuss the topic of a "Christian marrying a Jew, unevenly yoked or not" please start a new thread.
Also, please be advised that to advocate the marriage between a Christian and a Jewish person who is not a believer (Messianic Jew), is a violation of our Terms of Service.
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RE: Sharing Christ with a Jewish person - 8/14/2008 2:40:52 PM
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deermousie
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ORIGINAL: Glo-girl
I am new to site and need advise on Christianity and dating a Jewish person.
I apologize, I misunderstood what you wanted.
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I like him and want to share my faith with him. I have talked to other Jewish people regarding my faith and have had both good and bad feedback..should I engage now or wait later for this subject?
In the times I've shared my faith with Jewish people, they usually bring it up and give me the chance to share with them. It's good to know the verses that pertain to the Messiah (and I'm guessing you are prepared for that and have them memorized) so I'd expect as you talk to this guy he'll bring it up and you'll be ready. Write the verse references down on a napkin for him so he can look them up and see that you're not just making it all up. Pray like crazy that God will open his understanding and draw him to Himself. It's a spiritual battle! Go armed!
It could be he brings up, say, something he wants to do and you as a Christian don't do that (I'm not talking about anything specifically) so you can explain why you don't. Again, it's an opportunity offered up on a silver platter! Let 'er rip! God bless you and him, and bring this son of Abraham into the Fold of the Living God. I am praying for you and him today.
I am just sick about your pastor husband leaving you. People are sinners and pastors are supposed to be the best of the lot; he failed horribly and will incur greater judgement as a leader of God's flock and as a teacher. I know of a missionary husband who left his wife for the housekeeper. His father was the pastor of their home church, and he excommunicated the innocent wife and let the housekeeper join the church! Yikes! Serious judgement ahead there, too. (The wronged wife has done well and her two fatherless kids grew up great. God's grace. I don't know anymore about the adulterous husband or his father).
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