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Sodomy Within Marriage Discussions - 5/18/2005 10:39:36 AM
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BenQuebec
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RE: Sodomy Within Marriage - 5/18/2005 10:41:38 AM
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BenQuebec
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From ChristianityToday.com
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My Husband Wants Anal Sex
Q. My husband of eight years and I still enjoy lovemaking very much, and I don't have many complaints in this area. However, he has consistently brought up wanting anal sex to keep things interesting. This suggestion is completely disgusting to me, and I cannot understand why he would want to do something that would be painful to me when there are other ways to spice things up. He says he would do anything for me and I should do the same even if it is just for him. What does God think about anal sex in a Christian marriage? I really don't know what I am to do. Is this an area of submission?
A. Louis: I don't know exactly what God thinks about anal sex in a Christian marriage. The condemnation of the homosexual practices in Sodom that gave us the word sodomy to describe anal intercourse is the only clear statement in Scripture. Paul's comments about "unnatural" sex in Romans 1 may also apply.
Medically, anal sex is even more problematic. The rectum contains more potentially harmful bacteria and viruses than the vagina. If anal penetration is practiced, some protection by condoms should be used and alternating penetration of the rectum and vagina avoided. The rectum is simply not designed for this kind of treatment and serious medical problems may result.
I would like to comment, however, on the more important consideration—your feelings about having anal sex. Any sexual practice that feels forced on a mate violates the sense of safety and mutuality required for marital intimacy. That applies to oral sex, positions for intercourse, locations and situations for love making, or means of sexual stimulation. Sex is intended for mutual pleasure and, like submission, requires giving by both husband and wife.
There are many times in marriage when one partner has to choose between his or her own pleasure or preferences and that of a spouse. I believe those are clear opportunities to express the kind of love that Jesus asks of us: to lay aside our own desires for the benefit of each other's need for safety and respect from our mate. If my desire for pleasure from a certain sexual activity takes precedence over my desire for Melissa's sense of being honored and protected within our relationship, I have violated her trust. It wouldn't matter how convincing my arguments or how persuasive my appeal, I would damage her.
When there are things I would like to try, but she's not comfortable, it is important for me to let that be entirely up to her to initiate or request that experience. Meanwhile, I've given her the gift of my love and respect.
Melissa and Louis McBurney, M.D., are marriage therapists and co-founders of Marble Retreat in Marble, Colorado, where they counsel clergy couples.
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RE: Sodomy Within Marriage - 5/18/2005 10:44:26 AM
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What The Bible Has To Say About Unnatural Sexual Practices
By Cynthia
The Bible tells us that God created our bodies.
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Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in he image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
The Bible also tells us that we are well designed and it is obvious.
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Psalm 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
Today's scientific community would have us believe that we were not designed, but evolved, therefore the improper use of our bodies is based upon only what feels improper. In other words, if you don’t like it, don’t do it, but if it feels good, go for it. There is no right way or wrong way to use a thing.
The Bible tells us that our bodies can indeed be used for unnatural purposes, but that it is wrong to use them for such.
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Romans 1:24-27 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
The Bible also tells us that we are to treat our bodies with respect and that it is normal to treat our bodies with respect.
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I Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
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Ephesians 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church.
There seems to be some confusion over this verse.
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Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulters God will judge.
What this verse teaches us is that is is good for husband and wife to enjoy each other sexually. It does not advocate that anything goes. Some practices are detestable, within marriage or not.
It is easy to understand what most body parts were designed for just by observation. Our rectum and anus were obviously designed for storing bodily waste and eliminating it. The anus is designed especially to keep this waste in until it is to be removed.
In order to keep it functioning properly, we are to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, as this keeps the stool soft. This is not a new understanding or advance of medical science. People have known since the dawn of time that what we eat impacts how our body functions. If we do not eat properly, our stools will not be soft. This can cause tears and hemorrhoids. It is common sense that anything passing through the anus must meet this requirement, or it can cause injury.
The waste stored in the rectum must be disposed of properly, otherwise it can cause many diseases. If one comes into contact with feces, it is important to wash one’s hands. One should never purposefully touch this waste or allow it access to openings in the body. Putting anything into the anus that has a bodily opening is to expose oneself and eventually one’s wife to whatever bacteria is now being harbored in his own body.
Certain sexual activities that involve the anus or rectum can spread around waste and disease causing organisms. These activities are also likely to cause some injury to the woman involved.
Some people enjoy dangerous activities. Some people also find pleasure in activities that would normally be associated with pain. Harmful activities are not appropriate behaviors for Christians, as has been clearly outlined here. The Bible tells us that sin can be pleasurable, but that does not make it right.
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Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
It is a wrong assumption to believe that as long as something is between a husband and wife it is acceptable sexual behavior. There are numerous unhealthy practices that are obviously not appropriate. These would include any practices that involve pain, physical harm, danger or exposure to dangerous or disease causing substances.
Edited to add: special thanks to cynthia for this information!
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