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What about speaking in tongues - 4/30/2008 8:24:29 PM
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B1inhim
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Bless the Lord, `o my soul.
I have been watching this subject get thrashed around like so many of the other reasons for why we are NOT in the unity of faith.
Not even one time, was there any single person who after being baptized in the Spirit, did not speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
IE, every single solitary time that someone was baptized in the Spirit, they spoke in tongues.
PERIOD.
It is the teachers of the edict of tolerance that has aided in diminishing the effects of this wonderful experience.
The Eunuch in Acts chapter eight was baptized in water for the remission of his sins, in that he believed and was baptized.
This is an act of belief and an open act of faith as well as declaration; professing to the world that one believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, but he didn’t speak in tongues.
The baptism of Holy Spirit is separate from this act of obedience.
For many, this difference eludes them. It is a mystery.
The bottom line is this.
Belief.
If you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and that GOD has raised Him from the dead, you are saved.
Mk.16:
AND these signs will follow them that believe, In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly poison it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and the sick will recover."
PERIOD
There are six elements that we make (so to speak) as a believer, wood hay and stubble and gold silver and precious stones. (I Cor. 3:12)
These are the elements that are tested in the fire at the end and whatever is eternal will survive the flames of fire. The petty indifferences that have been separating the Body of Christ must come to end NOW.
We are a royal priesthood, ministers of reconciliation, a chosen generation, His own special people, a holy nation, proclaiming the praises of Him who called you OUT of the darkness into His marvelous light.
Those who do not see the light or understand what it is that sets us apart from the rest of this evil and wicked world, even after GREAT exegesis (an explanation or critical interpretation of a text) concerning the things of GOD. Will continue to stumble, they are disobedient to the Word and are appointed to continue to stumble.
Either accepts it and receives the fullness of the Spirit in Truth or rejects it and continues to stumble in their own foolishness.
Professing to be wise according to the dictates of this world they are confounded by the wisdom of GOD, which is foolishness to them.
Speaking in tongues is a GOD given right and every single solitary person who believes that Jesus Christ is Lord and is baptized has the right to speak in tongues.
However, just because you do not speak in tongues, does not mean that you are NOT saved.
That is Gods call, not ours.
It is like having a $20.00 bill tucked in a secret place in a billfold that you were given as a gift from a loved one. You have it; you just don't know that you do, so you don't use it.
I said "However, just because you do not speak in tongues, does not mean that you are NOT saved."
I am going to leave this like this.
Just because you do not speak in tongues, does not mean that you are not saved. It only means that you either do not know about it, do not want it or are just plain ignorant by choice OR you have been taught that it is not for everybody. And the following scripture is used… 1 Cor. 12:30 (KJV) Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
Lord Jesus said " Mark 16:17-18
AND these signs will follow them that believe, In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly poison it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and the sick will recover."
PERIOD
If you do not agree with this you are not agreeing with GOD.
That is not something that is my responsibility to tell you to do or not to do.
Spiritual arrogance says, " I am saved, no matter what."
Spiritual arrogance says "I do not see it therefore it does not apply to me."
It is the spiritually arrogant who help others walking in their own conceits and not that of Gods understanding.
You see the scriptures and have you yourself given them, why do you still ask where and why?
I have told you plainly.
We all have the gift of Life in Christ. The gift of tongues in 1 Cor. 12:30 is concerning ministry and is totally separate (if you please) from the ordained right of birth to speak in new tongues according to Mark 16:17-18 .
Yes, I have the gift of speaking in different tongues. And I speak in tongues as well.
In the congregation, I have had the honor of being given interpretation of tongues, which is the equivalence of prophecy.
Yet, while alone, I speak in tongues in worship and fellowship to and with GOD.
I simply ask for interpretation and my understanding is fruitful.
The enemy of my soul is confounded and I have direct fellowship with God in heaven.
This is ONE of the reasons why there are so many people who are confounded by this special right of birth and the gift of tongues.
Each has the billfold of GOD in Christ Jesus. In that, there are many different gifts and rights of birth that set us apart from this wicked generation. These gifts and rights of birth are clearly opened to those who are His and hidden from those who are not. To accept them as they are and go, grow and multiply is what being a seed of the “good ground” is all about. To reject them and/or even deny that they apply to US who are in JesUS is to reject and/or deny the power thereof.
The choice is our’s to make.
Plain and simple.
Love,
Brother Jerry
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RE: What about speaking in tongues - 5/1/2008 5:16:24 PM
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EJA
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Listen to a great debate on speaking in tongues here.
It features Ric Walston Ph.D., president of Columbia Evangelical Seminary and Edgar Lee, senior professor of Spiritual Formation and Pastoral Theology at the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary.
I think pride and arrogance on the Pentacostal/Charismatic side has made speaking in tongues very unpalatable to many in the church. The air of Christian superiority because one flows in a particualr gifting is carnality manifesting itself. The Apostle Paul had to correct this attitude in the Corinthian church (1 Corinthians 3).
Another problem the church faces in the issue os a matter of semantics.
What some Pentacostals and Charismatics call the 'Baptism' of the Holy Spirit, some Evangelicals call the 'infilling' or 'being filled with the spirit'.
Pentacostals and Charismatics believe we are all 'indwelt' or 'sealed' with the spirit when we are born again.
Evangelicals believe we have been 'Baptized' and 'sealed' with the spirit upon being born again.
All semantics.
Do all speak in tongues? Apparently not! CAN all speak in tongues? Apparently so, as the Lord gives utterance.
On the gifts of speaking and interpretation, I want to note that a young man testified to me that he was able to 'understand' what some Christians were saying as they spoke in tongues around him.
The interesting point is that he himself has yet to speak in tongues!
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RE: What about speaking in tongues - 5/1/2008 5:42:59 PM
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Kath
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In an attempt to consolidate for the purpose of effective moderation of this topic, we have created a One Stop thread for the topic of Tongues. Therefore, this thread is closed.
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