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ORIGINAL: chrisovery

If your goal is to communicate a simple gospel, which is only Christ crucified, then God will let you understand more and more. Only keep it simple.

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ORIGINAL: terryjohn

Interesting but does the gospel suggest we simply overlook false teaching? If you believe in Chirst, can you do as you please? Are not false teachings and practises confronted by Christ Himself?

Matt 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-- 36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'

The gospel is about confonting evil head on. The divisions in the chursch are then unavoidable, if only to show that some are saved. The gospel can not coexist with false teaching and practices. The gospel is like putting a light in a open can of gas. There is bound to be a reaction. Those who believe the gospel will simply create peace and comfort for them on earth simply do not know the power of the gospel. If they crucified our teacher (Christ) how much more will they do to those of us who are His students? Should we not also go through the temples turning over the idols that men have placed in the house of the Lord? The only way we can live at peace on earth is to overlook sin and tolerate evil in our midst. What or whose gospel do you preach? Better to preach Christ for then;

Php 1:18 - ... what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice,

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ORIGINAL: chrisovery
this is the problem. christ is not preached. money and wealth and new cars and houses are preached. sowing seeds of faith in the churches today is to give them your money. they tell of great things their church is doing, nothing of what christ is doing. everyone hold your hands out to pray for billy bob today, god will hear us better. these are not the gospel. nor are they preaching christ.

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ORIGINAL: delete123

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ORIGINAL: chrisovery
this is the problem. christ is not preached. money and wealth and new cars and houses are preached. sowing seeds of faith in the churches today is to give them your money. they tell of great things their church is doing, nothing of what christ is doing. everyone hold your hands out to pray for billy bob today, god will hear us better. these are not the gospel. nor are they preaching christ.

Chris~ this is only my humble opinion and hope you receive it as such and that it is not an offense to you!
I mainly see these blab and grab, name and claim on television. Yes those churches are real and like to believe God to be their personal banker.
However to me the bible states this would happen and it is up to each individual to have a personal relationship and 'chose' a church that will feed them the truth. Paul stated that we should not be ingnorant to the truth of the gospel, and yet when some hear it as mentioned in Galatians that they stray to a different doctrine, however:
The Lord says, that *many* will profess His name and do good works in His name and when judgement comes, He will say: Depart from me!

Just like He stated that the poor,war, and pestilence will always be with us, But so will the Wolves. Isn't there always wolves among a flock of sheep? They to hunger

The bible also says that God is in all Churches and they too will be judged according to scripture, so do not concern yourself with what they are or are not doing. Concern yourself with what you are doing and the truth that has been given you
Hope the Lord blesses you today

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ORIGINAL: campbe33

If I'm reading your post right are you saying we shouldn't make the Bible so complicated the common man can't understand it? The word of God shouldn't be spread in a "shoving it down your throat manner", but with love and understanding.

I myself don't care for Theology. It seems to me most theologians at prestigous Univerisities are more set on disproving the Bible rather than confirming it.

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ORIGINAL: chrisovery
delete123, the bible does say this. so dont you think that we should let people know what the truth is in hopes that they may turn from the fables and lies they are being taught. this is only a concern delete123. it seems to me that you are stating that because the bible says it is going to happen that we are to sit back and hide the truth. i do not believe that this is how you feel. it just seems to be what you are stating.

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ORIGINAL: chrisovery

i did not write this. but it is really good. a friend sent it to me.



This message comes from 1 Cor. 2:1&2. This is a strong warning and I am not trying to judge anybody. It is given with sincerity and simplicity and if anyone disagrees please read these verses and see that they support every word of this message.

The gospel isn’t eloquent or of superior wisdom. It is simple. One doesn’t become forceful and persuasive in speech when preaching the cross. The gospel isn’t rhetoric, which is defined as the art of speaking. Rhetoric is the way of the world; rhetoric belongs to the supercilious, the high-brows, if you will. The prominent speakers who get $50,000.00 per speech are not telling of Jesus, they are puffed-up pleasers of men. If Paul didn’t come to Corinth with eloquence and super-wisdom, then no one should.

These verses support the idea of a simple gospel, which is easily understood and easily transmitted. Sure, there are deep things of the faith, but they come from simplicity. If your goal is to impress people, then you will be called a fool. If your goal is to communicate a simple gospel, which is only Christ crucified, then God will let you understand more and more. Only keep it simple.

The testimony of God is the preaching of the cross, whether in word or song. The testimony of God is not an excellence of speech or a super-wisdom that impresses. 1 Cor. 2:2 is a very important portion of ure. It is the reason that I continually harp on the cross. Paul wanted to convert the Corinthians…and how did he do it? What was his mode of operation? What did he resolve to do? What did Paul resolve to know? Read it in 1 Cor. 2:2. Read it and learn. Do this yourself, preacher, singer, saint. Paul determined, Paul decided, Paul desired to know nothing except the cross, and the Person on the cross. In so doing, Paul condemned all other teachings.

Paul condemned theology. What has theology produced? It has produced nothing but confusion, divisions, and denominations. What has theology produced in you? Only distractions from Jesus, the One who never fails. Jesus and Him crucified will never fail. Theology, which is the “eloquent and wise” study of God, will mire you down in a heap of endless, old, yellow-paged books about the opinions of man. If the church would simplify and tell of the cross, the converts would abound and the church signs would come down. We would have Baptists, Methodists, and Catholics no longer. We would only have Christians. No more sects or religious groups would confuse the issue. But mark my words, this will never happen. When Jesus comes, will He find the faith on the earth?

So I will try to reach you, my reader, instead of entire religious groups. And if you continue to attend your religion, attend in simplicity and love and maybe you will bring those around you into the church-invisible. I pray for the pastors, that they will get, not religion, but the gospel. Only then will revival happen on the largest scale.


Joe La Bianca

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if we take a person to church and tell them listen .. they do not hear .they hear stuff

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ORIGINAL: nettiel

the only thing i know is god died for me on that cross took my sins and sorrows with him. i love jesus and he loves me.