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is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 2:51:54 AM
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ricky_a32
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i met a girl and we just started going out problem is shes a unbeliever, is it sinful to continue going out with her? If so how do i break it off and is there a alternative by maybe trying to get her to be a Christian?
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 6:07:47 AM
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SUGGEST YOU READ 1 Corinthians 7 ABOUT MARRIAGE ALSO THE WIFE OF NOBLE CHARACTER< PROVERBS 31:10-31 God would like to inform you, that unbeliever sinful Girl will able to Take you into SIN ALSO. THEIR MINDS CORRUPTED and will keep you away from God , for example SOLOMON KING< FALL BECAUSE BEAUTIFUL WIFE take her to worshipped another GOD.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 8:13:11 AM
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No it's not "sinful." But, I wouldn't do it. You need someone who's evenly yoked with you.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 8:51:24 AM
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fist.sensei
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You do need someone 'equally yoked', but in all aspects not just spiritually (though Paul was speaking in the spiritual sense). What does she believe? Does she have a firm belief set? Monotheist? Atheist? Agnostic? Not sure? Does she hold herself to high standards morally? What standards is she going by? Does she believe in something 'bigger' than herself? Those are good thoughts to start on... pray about it. I'm in a peculiar situation, my wife-to-be is a believer, but refuses to label herself. I have respect for what she believes and why she believes this way... At first I was dreadfully scared of dating a 'non-believer', but as we grew to know each other I found that she believes as strongly as I do, and in many ways the same thing. My point is to look deeper than someone saying "I'm a christian" or "I'm not a christian".
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 9:17:57 AM
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The question you need to ask yourself...If you are the believer..why did you start going out with the unbeliever...That's the first mistake you made...You as the christian can talk with an unbeliver in the form of witnessing..but once you start going out on dates, etc..you are then telling her it's ok...You need to witness to you as a friend and cut off the going out unless it's is to christian events... It puzzles me how christian gets involved in these situations and then ask is it right or how to get out...Which leads me to think that God was not involved in the first place?
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 9:19:47 AM
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I would not date anyone who has something in their life I would not want there if we married. A lack of Jesus would be at the top of the list. You always run the risk of falling in love with someone you date, which would lead to marrying an unbeliever, which would be sin.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 10:08:44 AM
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fist.sensei
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ORIGINAL: bluestone You always run the risk of falling in love with someone you date, which would lead to marrying an unbeliever, which would be sin. Let me guess, 2 Cor 6:14... taken out of context that is. I'll 'borrow' another post from a topic a while back that goes a bit deeper into these verses: quote:
A yoke is a chain or bond. There is a yoke or bond (note the singular form) by Christ. That yoke is the Holy Ghost - the Bond of perfection. He carries the perfect (complete) weight of all things of God, which things are also of eternal life, and works them out in righteousness. All things of life are weighted. An unbeliever does not have that yoke of Christ. He is yoked by another spirit from Satan who works out the things of death in unrighteousness. The things of death by Satan are also weighted and their weights are not equal to the weight of glory/grace of God in Jesus Christ/men. 2 Corinthians 6:14 declares: quote: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers, for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness. "Ye" above means believers: A believer should not have two unequal yokes residing together in his/her body (that is the temple of God); one of Christ as is given to believers and the other of Satan as with all unbelievers. Why? It is because within the very body of the believer (that is the temple of God), righteousness from the yoke of Christ (which is by weighted things of life worked out by the Holy Ghost) cannot have fellowship with unrighteousness from the yoke of Satan (which is by unequally weighted things of death work out the spirit of Satan). Again, within the very body of the believer (that is the temple of God), there should be no communion between the things of light (things of life become light in men and lead to justification) and the things of darkness (things of death become darkness in men and lead to condemnation). 2 Corinthians 6:14 does not teach that a believer cannot/should not marry an unbeliever. Also, it does not teach that you cannot be employed by an unbeliever or do business with unbelievers. Neither marriage, nor business partnership, nor employment constitutes the yoke of Christ. The Holy Ghost is the yoke of Christ, the Bond of perfection. A married person becomes one in the flesh with the spouse and not one in the spirit. But either one must be one in spirit with the Lord Jesus Christ being yoked with Him by the Holy Ghost. It is possible to have a husband unequally yoked in his body (that is the temple of God) while the wife is not, or vice versa. Business partners, employers and employees, unmarried friends are not one in the flesh as is a married couple. Only the Holy Ghost can yoke each of them with the Christ, thus making all who are so yoked one with Christ. Now, according to the will of God are all godly things and provisions made by the default set of all things of life. Please, note the three bold emphases. A thing (or things) of life given as a gift from God to you is worked out by the power of God to make a godly provision that is a job opening for you... according to the will of God. This way, God is your ultimate source and provider from His economy without your input... yourself having been "dead" in Christ Jesus. Is a specific job opening or even marriage to a specific person the will of God for me? Let us see together, but you decide for yourself! This is the "universal" and categorical will of God encapsulating His desires for us: That we have everlasting life - John 6:40 That we have deliverance (this includes healing and freedom from captivities) - Gal 1:4 That we have the salvation of God That we submit to established authority - 1Pet. 2:13-15 That we are sanctified - 1Thes. 4:3-4 That we are good and accountable stewards of all things of life given us - John 6:38 That we give thanks in every thing How then saith a virgin that it is God's will for me to marry a particular man? I dunno! But this I know: God will not usurp the will of man pertaining to a thing of the flesh (marriage is exclusively for the flesh on earth unto a couple becoming one flesh, but there is no marriage in Heaven wherein all are one in spirit with the Lord)... for it is and was from the beginning a man's will to marry a "helper" brought/appointed unto him by God. God makes the helper, man decides to marry the helper God has given him. I'd rather that virgins (unmarried females) supplicate unto God that He makes them "helpers" first. Then after present them unto unmarried men who decide in themselves to them (helpers) as wives... also that a man prays for God to bring/appoint unto him "helper" that he decides to take as wife. How many unmarried females want to be "helpers" first before being taken as wives; how many unmarried males want to marry just any female instead of a "helper" made by God? This was the case with Adam/Eve when God made Adam a helper (Eve) and Adam decided to take Eve as wife, saying "This is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh"... the decision to take as "bone of my bone" and "flesh of my flesh" was Adam's in that he so declared. Also was it with Isaac/Rebbeka when God made Rebbeka to "help" Isaac's proxy (and his camels) with water at the well as a sign, and the proxy decided to take Rebbekah as wife for Mr. Isaac. How then saith a man that it is God's will for me to get a particular job offer? I dunno! But this I know: It is God's will that a man obtains His gift of all things of eternal life that might be worked out in righteousness to make godly provisions, even a good and enjoyable job. For this reason did our Lord teach in a parable that men should seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness for all these thing (clothing, housing, money, jobs, etc that gentiles seek after) to be added. I'm sorry it has been a long talk!
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 11:38:31 AM
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It is easy to become interested in someone who's not a Christian due to many factors - perhaps she's very nice, has good manners and a wonderful personality(not too mention she's interested in you as well.) However did you try to witness to her as a friend(first) who's concerned about her being unsaved? Or did you first seek her out because you found her attractive/appealing and you secretly hoped she'd become a Christian because of her interest in you? Has she shown any interest in wanting to Know God --- Or has that subject ever come up in your relationship? If you've been silent in witnessing to her then it's best that you step back from her(apologize) and go spend some serious time with the Lord so you can become a strong(bolder) Christian man.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 12:08:47 PM
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Missionary dating tends to work in reverse.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/19/2008 11:23:34 PM
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Does oil and water match? See the scriptures and especially 2nd Cor 2:14 and you will get your answer which is not attempting dating anyone who is not of the faith. It is not a good witness, believe me.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/20/2008 12:05:37 AM
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you are so witty, i get tickled at you. quote:
ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way Missionary dating tends to work in reverse.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/20/2008 4:10:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way Missionary dating tends to work in reverse. I agree 1,000%.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/20/2008 5:07:52 PM
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crh737
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Dating an unbeliever is not sinful it is painful CRH
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/20/2008 5:36:30 PM
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It's not sinful... just not wise. It's better to break it off (or not ever start) now than to break it off as an "in love" couple because it is a sin to be "unequally yoked with an unbeliever." I would break it off kindly by explaining how it just can't be a match between the two of you because of your contrasting beliefs. I would not continue the dating relationship in the hopes that she is converted... however, if you can maintain a friendship without falling to temptation IMO it would be OK to patiently wait for, lead her to and hope for her conversion. I would also counsel that you don't be so heavily invested in waiting for her to come around so you can date her that you ignore young women who would be a good match for you. What if she never became a Christian and you hoped your life away? Also, I would recommend not dating her the day she professes Christ. You'll want to stand back and watch her behavior to see if she is just saying it for you or if she is truely a believer. There have been a lot of Christian marry unbelievers because they didn't take the time to discern if the faith was real or something used to increase charm.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/20/2008 7:28:51 PM
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it is dangerous, but let her know what you believe and be upfront about it otherwise she will take over and you will follow because you, think or feel, that you like her. and if anything you be the puller and pull her into the direction of truth. that really isn't the best way to do it but since that is where it is at you mind as well do it. because the other path isn't good trust me i have gone through it a little and my pastor caught me and i felt so convicted, but than i thought why don't i start being a little bolder and start talking about God and start reading and praying and to this day we are still dating but God is at the head of our relationship. we do a bible study together every week and pray together because we both want God to be glorified. right there is where it becomes a good relationship obviously we have our problems but who doesn't. now that i look back i think that if i wouldn't have taken the step to say we need God, i would be lost in sin terribly. My friend you just need to take that bold step and if she doesn't take it with you, you need to leave her behind because she will just hinder you. I would not say that it is a sin that you are dating her because you look at Hosea he went and bought a harlot to be his wife but that was Gods plan. but pray about and God will make it work out just remember that it is Gods will not your will! God Bless you!
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/21/2008 10:53:18 AM
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I cant say dating an unbeliever is bad or sinful. I've dated christian man and they acted like man who's living in the secular world, there are some male or female who are unbeliever and they the most nicest person you ever met. Just because the person says he or she is chrsitian doesn't mean they living their life holy. let not condenm dating unbelievers but there is a bad side though. I once dated an unbeliever whom I would say belivied in God and Jesus bust wasn't born again and was doing a lot of wrong things but me being raised in church all my life and recently got baptized last year learned form my mistakes and cut things off with this man. What I'm saying is the only thing to do if you really like this girl is pray to God to show you or reveal to you if this girl you dating is right or wrong. You never know God can send someone to you who's an unbeliever and the person turns out to be saved and born again. Just prat to God and he will show you things about this person whether it's good or bad. trust me it worked for me. Thank God.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 3/21/2008 4:13:09 PM
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Forgive me if this sounds too flippant, but if you were on a diet or fasting, why would you stand smelling the wonderful aromas in a steak restaurant? Our hearts are weak, and God tells us to guard them. If God has in His great plan for your good a wonderful Christian girl for you in your future, you could regret you ever risked yourself with a non-christian. Proverbs 4:23 Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life. Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 2 Cor. 6: 14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? God bless you, brother!
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/8/2008 11:34:31 AM
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2 Cor. 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: or what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 Cor 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye seperate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you It is not a sin to date. But if you wait on the Lord to send someone to you, He will only put in your presence people that can be of comfort and not of confusion to you.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/8/2008 12:04:53 PM
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For one you shouldn't be dating an unbeliever. Secondly I know people have a terribly wrong view on dating. I seriously believe that no one should date unless they are seriously considering marriage to that person. What is the point of dating someone and leading them on emotionally, if you don't plan on marrying said person? One person most always likes the other person and someone ends up getting hurt. It can't and shouldn't be a lets test each other out attitude and then an oh well it didn't work out attitude, then on to the next victim. It's too common among Christians especially Christian youth one month they are with one person and one to two months later they are with someone else and so on and so on. I have to disagree with the statement let not condemn dating unbelievers. Of course we should condemn it. It should never ever ever happen. Why would you want to date an unbeliever just because they are nice? Using the excuse that, "Just because the person says he or she is Christian doesn't mean they living their life holy," is just nonsense. Stay far from it Bro. There is no point in dating this person which leads to emotional and spiritual attachment. There is no point in dating someone unless you plan on marrying that person.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/8/2008 12:15:02 PM
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restored08
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If she is an unbeliever, YOU HAVE WORK TO DO. Minister to her. Introduce her to the word of God. Plant a seed. That person may have come into your life for that reason and not to date them. It's time for discipleship to step in. Give to her what was freely given to you.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/8/2008 10:47:40 PM
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i met a girl and we just started going out problem is shes a unbeliever, is it sinful to continue going out with her? If so how do i break it off and is there a alternative by maybe trying to get her to be a Christian? I dated a non-believer when I was a new Christian and ended up having sex with her, so from personal experience end it now. I finally turned around out of severe guilt and explained my faith to her and even got her to church, but the whole thing ended badly and I broke it off. The other posts here about this are all correct so heed the advise. You can be friends if that's possible and share your faith with her, but don't allow yourself to get involved in an intimate relationship.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/9/2008 2:00:40 AM
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Honestly, I don't think it's sinful but it makes me wonder: why is it that in order to fully accept that a behavior/action is unacceptable, we need to label it sin? Sin or no sin, it's not acceptable. Regardless of the fact that you may or may not marry, fall in love, etc., your beliefs are different. People also act upon their beliefs and thoughts. I'm not saying people who are not Christian do not know how to conduct themselves properly or don't have morals-- but it's different from the way you'd conduct yourself. I'm sure this girl has morals and values-- but morals and values tend to be points of contention where it can cause a lot of conflict. These may seem like the "little things" such as whether or not they like sprite versus cherry coke, or prefer to watch movies rather than go outside-- morals and values and beliefs are often unchanging and are from the very core of a person's character. If you were to try to change her beliefs, you would be trying to change her character. Many people would see that as a good thing, but I tend to view ministering with caution, as people often "change" just to please others without genuine effort. If her character changes due to her beliefs, it better be because that is what SHE wanted. The choice is yours and I think you already know what the more positive thing to do would be, whether you do that or not is up to you. The consequences are still going to be there.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/9/2008 2:02:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: fist.sensei My point is to look deeper than someone saying "I'm a christian" or "I'm not a christian". I think this by far is one of the most important things to consider.
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RE: is dating a unbeliever sinful? - 4/9/2008 7:25:07 AM
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Well it is wrong to go out with a non believer...i learnt that u never negotiate with what God says in his word...after all its for ur own good that u dont date a non believer
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