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FurGodWurLivin -> RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas (7/21/2007 6:13:02 AM)
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Are you folks so blind that you are not even paying attention to the true enemy who's been cutting people's head off? Okay, first off, no I'm not... second of all, I'm not a fan of anyone (or more inclined to listen to someone) who calls me blind. I reserve that priveledge for Jesus, and people who are actually correct in their judgement. quote:
Have you seen it or are you still blind? Same as above... quote:
I'm going to keep talking while nobody is listening and see how long it takes for everyone to see Okay, I understand your frustration, however, I listened, I saw, and I noted that it is nothing I haven't heard before... and nothing even close to being more convincing. The real problem with this theory of the mark of the beast is that people could still be involved in commerce without this mark. Not to mention that the Mark of the Beast, when described in the Bible anyway, is without geographical boundary. (a la, "causes all who worship the beast to recieve a mark..."). Other problems, first off, Mahmoud Abbas is not worshipped by anyone... and the Antichrist who dispenses the a mark will be something a religious figure, and not just a political. FACT: The Mark of the Beast will be highly Satanic Note for yourself that when the mark is mentioned, the phrase "worshipping his image" is usually not far behind... this would indicate that recieving the mark is somehow tied to idol worship. quote:
I think it all comes down to faith. Some people are supposed to see while others are not, no matter what proof is given. This is a very convenient statement. Basically it means that any time someone disagrees with you, you can just say that they either don't have "enough" faith or the "right kind" of faith. Basically, what it says to me is that you are 100% convinced that you are right and will hear nothing else... which usually means you are wrong. At least the church councils gave a heretic consideration before panning them. quote:
Islam is that false religion. I tend to doubt that it is THE religion we are supposed to be worried about in the book of Revelation(No idol worship allowed). True enough, Islam has made a martyr out of many a Christian in this world... but Islam makes no attempt at assimilating other religions into their way of life, and doesn't even smile at unifying the world. Basically, Islam is a spiritualized version of the Nazi ideal in WWII.quote:
It has drawn one third of the world’s population actually, that is an overstatement of Islam's power. Most recent numbers have put about 1.3 billion Muslims in a world of 7-8 billion people... which is less than a quarter. Not that that is insignificant, but it is not as far gone as you might think. quote:
On the other hand, what if you just voted for the beast and were unaware of it. Very hypothetical question, my sir... and hypotheticals are dangerous territory when talking about doctrine. Just a thought. And for whatever its worth, I don't think the "beast" will be voted into office. quote:
Christianity likes to blend two of these ideas together and say that the Mark is the number 666 inscribed. Incorrect... some people think that. It is hardly a "religion-wide" (to pardon the expression) thing. Now, St. John does say that the number of the beast (the 666) is in fact the number of a man... nobody really has any clarity on what that actually means, though. quote:
Why would someone who is great, rich and free need to get any sort of mark in order to buy anything? Simple enough, when a person controls society, they make the rules... there were a lot of wealthy Jews in Germany, and they still ended up in Auschwitz. quote:
A person in high esteem with lots of money (maybe a government official) needs no permission to buy anything, he does as he pleases. Not true... even Paris Hilton went to jail. Not that she spent much time there, or even got treated that roughly, but she went just the same. Take a look at Bill Clinton... the President of the Untied States and he got impeached by Congress. Just because someone is rich, they aren't above the law... unless the society is corrupted completely. quote:
Gematria is the most common way scholars use to find his identity Actually, Gematria has been largely discredited by a number of scholars for the reasons you provided... any one guess is a good as the next.quote:
This happened on the sixth day of the week in the sixth month on the sixteenth day in the year 2006. It seems the event I was looking for happened on a 666 day, one of only three in the whole year. Problem... the actual date would then be 6/16/2006 or 6/16/06... that "one" in there kind of throws the theory. Just like not everything that happened on 7/7/07 was a heavenly thing, not everything that happens on a day with three 6's in it is necessarily evil.quote:
All three of these items point to the second beast Other problem, the second beast is actually the False Prophet, and not the antichrist... quote:
It is how they are interpreted that either blinds us or lets us see. Translation: how we read the text and how willing we are to break with orthodoxy means we either agree with you or don't... fair enough. A real question though, okay, so this is happening to the Palestinians... What about the other 99.8% of the earth's population? quote:
In summary, Jesus is Lord and he is coming soon. I must admit, this is the only line in your post I can agree with wholeheartedly... so WOOHOO! Adam
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