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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 9:45:17 AM
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For some reason, I can't seem to get Rod Serling out of my mind when I read this thread. You with me cow?
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 11:12:55 AM
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Hi Joefen i was reading your post thinking who the , is this Rod Sterling and what does he have to do with the price of rice in China? After looking him up , i must say interesting choice and very twilight zoney indeed.
Rodman "Rod" Edward Serling (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975) was an American screenwriter, most famous for his science fiction anthology series The Twilight Zone.
I'm not sure if this was some kind of dig or tongue in cheek remark,, but i don't think it worked if that was its intention. You tell me, regardless if it was it had the opposite effect as you have given a prime example of the twilight zone in action. Rod Serling, hey?!
If it was science fiction none of these things would be happening yet they are and as this threads continues they are being found in bible codes dates numbers and calculations.
Rev 13
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
The calculations from two different aspects are pointing to the same thing here and its not science fiction or clever number plays as events beyond mans control are also within the matrix of events taking place.
Rodman "Rod" Edward Serling (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975)
Even your comment can be linked into what is being said,,
I'm talking about 06/06/2004 , with 6x4 = 24
Serling dies in June the 6th month
Behold speaks of December the 12th month
6+6= 12
7 x 4 = 28
25 + 25 +25 = 75
1/3 + 1/3 +1/3
1+1+1
50 was the age Serling died.
and there is even more that could be said here,, such as his middle name or that on his 50th birthday Cyclone Tracey hit the city of Darwin in Australia apart on Christmas Day of 1974.
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 11:29:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: IC.InChrist
Hi Joefen i was reading your post thinking who the , is this Rod Sterling and what does he have to do with the price of rice in China? After looking him up , i must say interesting choice and very twilight zoney indeed.
Rodman "Rod" Edward Serling (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975) was an American screenwriter, most famous for his science fiction anthology series The Twilight Zone.
I'm not sure if this was some kind of dig or tongue in cheek remark,, but i don't think it worked if that was its intention. You tell me, regardless if it was it had the opposite effect as you have given a prime example of the twilight zone in action. Rod Serling, hey?!
If it was science fiction none of these things would be happening yet they are and as this threads continues they are being found in bible codes dates numbers and calculations.
Rev 13
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
The calculations from two different aspects are pointing to the same thing here and its not science fiction or clever number plays as events beyond mans control are also within the matrix of events taking place.
Rodman "Rod" Edward Serling (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975)
Even your comment can be linked into what is being said,,
I'm talking about 06/06/2004 , with 6x4 = 24
Serling dies in June the 6th month
Behold speaks of December the 12th month
6+6= 12
7 x 4 = 28
25 + 25 +25 = 75
1/3 + 1/3 +1/3
1+1+1
50 was the age Serling died.
and there is even more that could be said here,, such as his middle name or that on his 50th birthday Cyclone Tracey hit the city of Darwin in Australia apart on Christmas Day of 1974.
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless
Hi IC,
Yeah, just a ref to the twilight zone. And after reading the above, the music is even louder. What in the world is all the math? Sorry, bro, I'm a mechanical engineer so math doesn't usually scare me, but I'm lost with what your equations mean. What is 6x4 a ref to? 1+1+1? Why 7x4, why not 7+4?
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 7:55:43 PM
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Hey All & Hi Joefen,,
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Yeah, just a ref to the twilight zone. And after reading the above, the music is even louder. What in the world is all the math?
Yep, the music is getting louder after that post, and the reason for the math is because it is there. Math is the only common thread that passes all languages and is a constant through time once a certain calculation is found, such as Pi or the length of a triangles sides or the simple use of prime numbers.
The math that i see in these things and the way i calculate them is to simple break them down into the lowest possible forms, such as what i have written in my last post. From this math you see the pattern emerge, using childlike math and calculations.
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Sorry, bro, I'm a mechanical engineer so math doesn't usually scare me, but I'm lost with what your equations mean. What is 6x4 a ref to? 1+1+1? Why 7x4, why not 7+4?
The question about Serling.
In his numbers & dates around his name there are some examples of how i crunch the numbers, so the pattern can be seen. It's just simple math at the basic level really and it's how i see numbers all the time now, and on some crunches the numbers show a pattern.
There in Serlings year of birth we see he was born on the 24th year,, 1924. Basic math on 24 brings me to the division of the number by 6, with the result being 6 x 4 = 24
Math 101, it takes 6 6 6 6 of these sixes to equal 24.
The same applies for 28, the date of the month that he died was the 28th. Basic math on 28
brings me to the division of the number by 7, with the result being 7 x 4 = 28
Math 101, it takes 7 7 7 7 of these sevens to equal 28.
So in this twilight example you provided, out of all the numbers that could have gone with
our man Serling we get these two sixes & sevens. The same numbers that Behold is refering to in his codes and my dates & numbers in past posts. I spoke of a link, a design,, & you have confirmed that design somewhat with the 6 & 7.
By Chance our man Serling is also linked back to the week surrounding the codes by the 25th December , out of all the days it happened to be Christmas that Serling was born.
December the 12th month and June the 6th, shows the basic divison by half.
6 + 6 =12 or 6 x 2 = 12.
Again just simple math and breaking the numbers down to the basic calculations any child could do.
Theres another pattern in the 25, with the 25th being the day of the month and the 75th being the year of his death.
Basic math makes it easy to see that its in thirds. 1/3 1/3 1/3
25
25 + 25= 50
25 + 25+ 25= 75
or if you started with the number 21 and broke it into three equal portions or thirds you would get 7 7 7 . Each being the same in size & portion to the other.
The use of the 1+1+1 is one thing that i have noticed over the past few years, it's random yet it has a purpose because the times it does show seems to be by design and for teaching.
What the 111 symbolises for me is the Father The Son & Holy Spirit, the Trinity.
All are seperate but all are One, The three make the One, yet the seperate One is the three.
111 = 1
I mentioned in an earlier post about the days between Sadamm & Ford being 1111days.
this time we see the 111 plus another 1 making up the 1111. The extra 1 seems from what i have noticed represents man, the world and the current times.
so thats how the math works basically Joefen, pls ask if none of the above makes sense or you just want me to explain a certain point more.
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 8:43:16 PM
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Well IC, I'll give you one thing, you have a creative imagination. I'm not sure what the significance of breaking down round numbers associated with random people is, but it can be done with anyone. You choose a famous name and I'll do the same thing for you.
What it's got to do with the price of eggs is beyond me.
Joe
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/6/2007 10:03:06 PM
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I don't care about Bible Codes. I don't care about coincidenses. This thread started off really simple; can someone help me determine the odds that the "find" occured purely accidentally. Apparently, no one can help with the math. This thread should just close then.
On another note, I made a prediction, it didn't happen, end of story. Because I am still interested in the mathematical aspect of this, I will continue seeking math help. But again, let's end this here, cause no one on this forum is apparently MATHEMATICALLY qualified, myself included. The thread no longer has purpose. Thank you and good nite!
Moderators, please close this thread.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/8/2007 12:08:57 PM
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I never asked anyone to believe a bible code was found. Instead, I asked first for math help, and afterward, I asked for an opinion on whether this whole thing looks more like cloud shapes in the sky, or deliberate sky-writing. What do I get for asking; people choosing to poke fun and clown around. That helps me how? I'm loving the christian attitude on this forum. Oh well, what can be said, it's cyber space right, a world full of clowns.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/8/2007 12:11:05 PM
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Lastly, I asked for the moderators to please close this thread, since it no longer serves any good purpose. Where are they, sleeping?
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/8/2007 12:44:37 PM
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/8/2007 1:39:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: FlashAce
If you want information on Bible Codes I suggest:
http://www.biblecodedigest.com
Comparing the Bible Codes to Harry Potter is humorous to say the least. The Bible Codes do not deal with Witchcraft and corrupting the minds of little kids.
True Bible Code scholars tell you that you cannot predict the future with it as well. I do not subscribe to the Codes as being the Gospel or fact but there are more than a few coincidences.
If you want something to calculate try the Isaiah 53 code about Christ the Messiah.
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/320
Then calculate Isaiah's historical accuracy
http://formerthings.com/sargon.htm
http://formerthings.com/hezekiah.htm
Then calculate that Isaiah wrote the prophecies of Christ long before he ever walked the earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XerrKaHZWQ
Greetings,
That was a great video!
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/18/2007 2:50:30 PM
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I thought this was the best place to put this; the reason will be obvious enough.
NOTE: This is NOT a prediction, just a thought/question, which RESULTED from another observation of the same "bible code" matrix where I found "Head of State Gorge W Bush".
Here's the matrix, for entertainment value :)
ERIGHTITISANDIWILLGI
GEWILTTHOUJUDGETHEBL
LESTOSHEDBLOODANDINT
SOUTOFTHEEANDTHOUSHA
GSONOFMANSAYUNTOHERT
AVEVEXEDTHEPOORANDNE
BOURSWHICHWERECLOTHE
DMOSTGORGEOUSLYHORSE
WHEREINSHEHADPLAYEDT
YAGAINSTTHEEANDTHEYS
LSTHOUHASTWALKEDINTH
PASSFORTHEMTHROUGHTH
INUNTOHERASTHEYGOINU
DAYEVENOFTHISSAMEDAY
EFORFIREGREATHEAPONW
NDOWNFORBEARTOCRYMAK
ASIGNACCORDINGTOALLT
THEREFOREIWILLDELIVE
RYOFTHECOUNTRYBETHJE
What I observed is that "The hadir" is found in front of "State", so as to read "The hadir state of Eagle". The word "Hadir" is arabic for "present", and the word "Eagle" could of course refer to the national symbol of the USA. Translation: The Present State of USA. The word "Orate" is found crossing "State" and so, the observation, in totality, leads to an oration by the president, the title of this oration/speech is called, "The (present) State of the Union (address)". On Tuesday, the President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, a joint congress, and the joint chiefs, are all gathered under one roof. That led me to a HORRIFYING thought. Again, this is not a prediction for this Tuesday, but is instead something to ponder FOR EVERY EVENT IN WHICH 99% of the body of persons comprising our Federal Government is seated under one roof. A catastrophic attack during such an event would destroy two thirds of our government, the legislative and executive branches. It seems the only contingency to help the government survive is that ONE member of the president's cabinet, along with two senators and two representatives do not attend the event. Yeah, like the federal government can really be run fairly by 5 people !?!?
Anyway, here are my questions, which I pose to those that are well versed in the politics AND economics of our country:
Our local banks are backed up by the Fed, will our banks fail if the Fed no longer exists?
If the executive branch and the joint chiefs are gone, who is in control of our military?
Who is in control of our nukes?
I've wondered the same question about an attack on the UN during a UN Summit of Heads of State. Such an attack would kill every leader of every country. One would think the world would never organize such events, the results of which would be mass mayhem at levels never before seen in history. Why don't they all meet via teleconferencing instead (rhetorical question, answer not required!)
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/18/2007 7:05:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: behold
I thought this was the best place to put this; the reason will be obvious enough.
NOTE: This is NOT a prediction, just a thought/question, which RESULTED from another observation of the same "bible code" matrix where I found "Head of State Gorge W Bush".
Here's the matrix, for entertainment value :)
ERIGHTITISANDIWILLGI
GEWILTTHOUJUDGETHEBL
LESTOSHEDBLOODANDINT
SOUTOFTHEEANDTHOUSHA
GSONOFMANSAYUNTOHERT
AVEVEXEDTHEPOORANDNE
BOURSWHICHWERECLOTHE
DMOSTGORGEOUSLYHORSE
WHEREINSHEHADPLAYEDT
YAGAINSTTHEEANDTHEYS
LSTHOUHASTWALKEDINTH
PASSFORTHEMTHROUGHTH
INUNTOHERASTHEYGOINU
DAYEVENOFTHISSAMEDAY
EFORFIREGREATHEAPONW
NDOWNFORBEARTOCRYMAK
ASIGNACCORDINGTOALLT
THEREFOREIWILLDELIVE
RYOFTHECOUNTRYBETHJE
It is entertaining.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/18/2007 8:16:17 PM
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It is entertaining.
Indeed, but do you have any thoughts, or BETTER yet, actual knowledge, of what might be expected (ESPECIALLY) economically, if the scene mentioned above ever actually played out?
I'm no expert in this field, but I personally believe that, at least for a few months, ALL HELL would truly break loose. I mean, banks would fail, MILLIONS become unemployed, the trucks would stop bringing food to the supermarkets, people would riot in the streets, tens of thousands would starve to death, etc, etc ...
Can someone tell me otherwise? You see, this isn't as much about being just another doomsayer, it's more like, NO ONE expected the WTC to come down the way it did, NO ONE !!! But they did, didn't they? THIS COULD HAPPEN, maybe not this year, maybe not next, but who knows, with the amount of hatred there is for this country, it is a very real possibility. Heck, a MAN once looked up into the sky and told himself he wanted to fly like birds. Guess what, even without God giving us wings, WE FLY. Man is capable of ANYTHING, and so are terrorists.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/18/2007 10:11:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: behold
Ever since I learned about the "existence" of the Bible Codes, I thought it was hogwash, worse even, perhaps another weapon in the enemy's grand arsenal of religious confusion. However, a few weeks, mostly due to boredom here at work, I decided to entertain myself by writing a "Bible Codes" program for the King James Version. Well, now it seems I may have found some incredibly interesting anomalies, such as "Gorge Bush" immediately adjacent to "Head of State", "Ruler" (found 2x), "Leader", and "Eagle". The two instances of "Ruler", and the one instance of "Leader" all share the same last "r", and the "a" in "Eagle" is shared with the "a" in "State". Moreover, the ELS Skip specifically for "Head" and "State" is 777. And lastly, in the same matrix, I found "Bin Laden" at an ELS Skip of 2001. I'm trying to figure this whole thing out, reserving judgment for after I learn what the probablity is of finding such things. But it seems highly unlikely that such a thing would occur randomly. In any event, though I am exceptionally skilled in math, I am somewhat lacking in the study of probablity and statistics. I need help trying to figure this out. Can anyone help with this project? It does not matter whether you believe in Bible Codes, or even whether you believe in the bible or not; I just need your help computing the probability. THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!
If you think you are gifted to this, you should go ahead and give a try. More importantly you have to rely on Him (alot) in order to be fruitful in your research. If you only rely on your own intellegence, you may go the wrong way.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/19/2007 2:04:28 PM
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quote:
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ORIGINAL: cow257
It is entertaining.
Indeed, but do you have any thoughts, or BETTER yet, actual knowledge, of what might be expected (ESPECIALLY) economically, if the scene mentioned above ever actually played out?
I'm no expert in this field, but I personally believe that, at least for a few months, ALL HELL would truly break loose. I mean, banks would fail, MILLIONS become unemployed, the trucks would stop bringing food to the supermarkets, people would riot in the streets, tens of thousands would starve to death, etc, etc ...
Can someone tell me otherwise? You see, this isn't as much about being just another doomsayer, it's more like, NO ONE expected the WTC to come down the way it did, NO ONE !!! But they did, didn't they? THIS COULD HAPPEN, maybe not this year, maybe not next, but who knows, with the amount of hatred there is for this country, it is a very real possibility. Heck, a MAN once looked up into the sky and told himself he wanted to fly like birds. Guess what, even without God giving us wings, WE FLY. Man is capable of ANYTHING, and so are terrorists.
The "code" you have given does not indicate anything. Your "prophetic scenario" is just your own speculation.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/19/2007 2:23:48 PM
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The "code" you have given does not indicate anything. Your "prophetic scenario" is just your own speculation.
Umm, I didn't say the code was a prophecy. I said it led me to consider a plausible scenario of an attack. I then proceeded to wonder what the ramifications would be if such an attack would ever occur. And of course it's my speculation, duh. And I am asking others, preferably those with a good knowledge of US economics, to further speculate on how such a scenario would affect my ability to feed my four kids.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/19/2007 3:42:37 PM
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Behold - perhaps you could pose your question in the Current Events folder (without the Bible code part of it) - sharing the scenario and asking what the ramifications would be.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/19/2007 3:54:35 PM
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Here it is ... LINK
[Link edited by moderator to make it user-friendly]
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/22/2007 10:04:15 PM
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Here is how "interesting" I think the "codes" are. Calculate the odds of finding events listed in them ONLY AFTER they occur. It isn't very advanced math. After this fact was pointed out, THEN they began to make predictive discoveries. Of course they are ambiguous at best and often "cover the bets" saying differing outcomes (just in case). Codes - Shmodes. The only thing truly interesting I've seen on the topic relate to some letter/word placements in the Pentateuch.
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RE: Bible Codes - 4/13/2007 10:21:04 PM
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I just got a trial version of the codes and I found out my last name is in more than 300 codes.The Last name is Araujo. I am wondering if you could get the messages since my trial version ran out.
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RE: Bible Codes - 4/16/2007 11:52:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: GwenLA
I just got a trial version of the codes and I found out my last name is in more than 300 codes.The Last name is Araujo. I am wondering if you could get the messages since my trial version ran out.
So, what role are you playing in Biblical prophecy?
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RE: Bible Codes - 4/2/2008 9:35:52 AM
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RED HERRING #1 - Self Fulfilling Prophesy
You chaps really have overlooked the simplest proof, by attributing the value of 6 to the letter A and 12 to the letter B and so on, you can prove that approximately 20% of the population's names, in some form, add up to 666 - thus showing an abundance of Anti-Christs
Likewise, by attributing the value 7 to the letter A and 14 to the letter B and so on, you can prove that that same 20% add up to 777 which is perfection itself, and therefore most Godly.
One of the exercises I give my first year programmers is to write such a program (it takes about 10 minutes) and they have fun verifying that those they thought demonic, really are. 
ALSO, if there is any slight discrepancy, they merely use an alternative form of their enemies name, or add a middle initial...
Now as flippant as the above paragraphs should appear, I would like to suggest that there is a distinct parallel between these simple number jumbles and the "learned" efforts, with appropriate serious demeanors and furrowed brows, to attribute mystic significance to many events.
RED HERRING #2 - Dishonest Manipulation
That being said, I DO believe there is a Secret Answer, and my new book explains it all very simply, so if you would just email me a copy of your VISA number and EXPIRY date, I will gladly send you signed edition!
We must be aware that the two powerful deviations illustrated above will always dog the efforts of any who are genuinely trying to "rightly divide the Word of Truth"
Are there deep truths and mathematical delights in God's universe? - ABSOLUTELY!
However, we must be VERY careful not to "bite at every juicy worm" that comes our way. IMHO
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RE: Bible Codes - 4/2/2008 12:12:26 PM
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LOL!!!
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ORIGINAL: behold
Ever since I learned about the "existence" of the Bible Codes, I thought it was hogwash, worse even, perhaps another weapon in the enemy's grand arsenal of religious confusion. However, a few weeks, mostly due to boredom here at work, I decided to entertain myself by writing a "Bible Codes" program for the King James Version. Well, now it seems I may have found some incredibly interesting anomalies, such as "Gorge Bush" immediately adjacent to "Head of State", "Ruler" (found 2x), "Leader", and "Eagle". The two instances of "Ruler", and the one instance of "Leader" all share the same last "r", and the "a" in "Eagle" is shared with the "a" in "State". Moreover, the ELS Skip specifically for "Head" and "State" is 777. And lastly, in the same matrix, I found "Bin Laden" at an ELS Skip of 2001. I'm trying to figure this whole thing out, reserving judgment for after I learn what the probablity is of finding such things. But it seems highly unlikely that such a thing would occur randomly. In any event, though I am exceptionally skilled in math, I am somewhat lacking in the study of probablity and statistics. I need help trying to figure this out. Can anyone help with this project? It does not matter whether you believe in Bible Codes, or even whether you believe in the bible or not; I just need your help computing the probability. THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!
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