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For anyone who's interested, I'm a 5 pointer from the PCA

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You get points when someone gives a favorable rating to your posts.

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The Heidelberg catechism is part of the three forms of unity, it's just the most famous part. The other two are the belgic confession and canons of dordt. Of the three I like the Heidelberg Catechism the best for the reason that it doesn't contain much anti catholic language beyond question 33... a very vague reference to Rome.

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ORIGINAL: Jipsah

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You get points when someone gives a favorable rating to your posts.

I probably won't be getting many, then. I'm generally about as popular as beer & fried pork skins at a Muslim poker game. (Assuming Muslims play poker, which they probably don't.) I'll try and find excuses to give y'all points, though.

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ORIGINAL: Jipsah

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The Heidelberg catechism is part of the three forms of unity, it's just the most famous part. The other two are the belgic confession and canons of dordt. Of the three I like the Heidelberg Catechism the best for the reason that it doesn't contain much anti catholic language beyond question 33... a very vague reference to Rome.

I may have said before, I'm using the HC at the Episcopal church because it isn't as overtly Presbyterian as the WCF. Same catechism I was teaching kids at the Baptist church before they caught me and asked me to stop. (I did; it was their church, after all.)

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They made you stop? What on earth for?

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ORIGINAL: Jipsah

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They made you stop? What on earth for?

Baptists don't care for catechisms or creeds. They like to say "we don't believe anything but the Bible". I came to the conclusion that the Sunday School classes my daughters had been taking weren't teaching them anything at all in a systematic manner, and they were missing a bunch of things that I considered Christianity 101, so I started teaching small daughter and a couple of her friends the HC after church, in a church classroom, on Sundays.

They didn't actually catch me, in fact I told my SS teacher what I was doing, and he asked me to give him a copy of the HC so he could see if there was anything patently offensive in it. He found it unobjectionable, but the SS superintendent got wind of it, and asked me, with all due courtesy, to knock it off. I started teaching the kids at Starbucks.

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Objectionable... Only believe the bible... I guess also that it would unreasonable for them to see that any time someone makes a statement concerning biblical truth, they have made a confession. And that the books that they use to teach from are by default, catechisms.

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ORIGINAL: majorsizemore

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Objectionable... Only believe the bible... I guess also that it would unreasonable for them to see that any time someone makes a statement concerning biblical truth, they have made a confession. And that the books that they use to teach from are by default, catechisms.

I know, it doesn't make much sense to me either. Even if you don't have a creed written down, you still have one in your head. You have a set of beliefs based on the Bible.

And....the Baptists DO have creeds! The 1689 London Baptist Confession (which is basically the WCF minus infant baptism) and even the current Baptist Faith and Message, which they required all their SBC missionaries to subscribe to. If I'm correct on that.

I don't have a problem just saying, "Yeah I believe in a creed, the WCF, except where I don't agree with it."

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In that, the reason we don't perfectly agree with everything is because we are all just like the father of the demon possessed boy, crying out to Jesus, "Help me in my unbelief". We suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

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Same here, bro. But I'm also teaching in an Episcopal (yeah, ECUSA if you can credit that) church as well. The rector there is a 5-pointer too, a graduate of a Presbyterian seminary in Korea. So this one one EC where you don't get "centering prayer" or (im)moral relativism. You get the sovereign majesty of God.