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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 3:28:05 PM
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stellaluna
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Tatooed person: "How are you going to feel being the only person in the nursing home without a tatoo?"
Probably grateful and a little smug. When did following the majority become the standard for right vs. wrong?
That wasn't an illustration of "it's okay." It was pointing out that before very long, most nursing home residents will have tattoos, so who cares if you have a tattoo when you're 80?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 3:31:43 PM
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I think it will be pretty cool, tattoos - let me clarify, people with tattoos for the right reasons, not bad flash art they regret, and rightfully should - tell a story, so we can sit around and talk about the Fall of Aught Seven, when I got this one right heah...
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 7:50:13 PM
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Apollyon
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I have wanted one since I was 16, but knew to wait because I probably would get something I would regret knowing that my opinions in life would change about issues. I think, now, that I have the design that I want. It took 10 years and a lot of mistakes turned to lessons to add to it.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 8:44:03 PM
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 10:43:49 PM
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Tenz
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in my mind its better not to risk it even if it is God pleasing.
Better to have Christ within then mark up our body if we are unsure. Read the word and find out. I just newly became a Christian an i'm learning it all from scratch. So until i find something out for myself with the help of my church, the elders and priest i would not risk it an even then its still a risky decision cause everyone after all is human no matter who they are
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/9/2007 11:53:50 PM
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amannoftruth
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So should we be what Christ commanded and show his love and help the needy or be whitewashd tombs? Should we just get the flattop crew, navy blue poylester suits, amd speak only churchese? God does not care what we look like as long as it is not immodest. Tattoos and earrings are not forbidden. Jeans are allowed. We can be individuals and still honor the Lord. He cares more about the inside than the outside. Man cars more about the outside than the inside. By the way what does a Christian look like?
Well, I can't tell you what a Christian should look like, but the Bible gives us some examples of what NOT to do:
-We are not to imitate the world.
-We are not to adorn our bodies so as to draw attention to ourselves.
-We are not to be prideful about our appearance.
-We should NOT offend people by our appearance, but by the message of the cross.
-We are to be good stewards of our money. Many of the people I know who have the most tattoos are the ones who can least afford to spend money on something that isn't a necessity.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/10/2007 8:03:21 AM
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Well, I can't tell you what a Christian should look like, but the Bible gives us some examples of what NOT to do:
-We are not to imitate the world.
-We are not to adorn our bodies so as to draw attention to ourselves.
-We are not to be prideful about our appearance.
-We should NOT offend people by our appearance, but by the message of the cross.
-We are to be good stewards of our money. Many of the people I know who have the most tattoos are the ones who can least afford to spend money on something that isn't a necessity.
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Well, I can't tell you what a Christian should look like, but the Bible gives us some examples of what NOT to do:
-We are not to imitate the world.
-We are not to adorn our bodies so as to draw attention to ourselves.
-We are not to be prideful about our appearance.
-We should NOT offend people by our appearance, but by the message of the cross.
Au contrair, by these statements you are telling us what a Christian should look like. When we leave the house every day we are imitating the world by whatever attire we have on. I guess we are to never wear watches, rings jewlry, necklaces or expensive suits. How is a tattoo prideful? We can offend anyone by dress. Some people are offended by jeans, some people are offended by women wearing pants, some people are offended by expensive suits, some people are offended by Walmart clothes,etc. Your statements are too vague. Again your statements imply that your narrow definition of worldly is the only valid one. Yes tattoos can be expensive but so can someone's hobby if that person is passionate about. Some "Christians" abuse money by buying houses and cars that are more than they can afford because some blab it and grab it prosperity pimp convinced them that it is Gawd's Wiiuullah that they act like a King's Kid. To me that is far more offensive than a simple tat.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/10/2007 10:09:51 AM
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-We are not to imitate the world.
So then we shouldn't drive cars, have jobs, wear clothes, watch TV, listen to music...how does one distinguish between "the world" and ...well, not?
I do not imitate the world. I place little to no value on material possessions, money, superficial appearances, etc.
I wish I could say the same for the majority of Christians.
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We are not to adorn our bodies so as to draw attention to ourselves.
My tattoo has zero to do with getting any sort of attention. The people I mentioned earlier who get tattoos for the right reasons, they have nothing to do with getting attention, either.
Ever watched one of the reality tattoo shows? Nobody walks in going, "Say there, I'd really like people to stare at me. What do you recommend?" 
I don't doubt there are those sorts out there, but they shouldn't be getting a tattoo in the first place, and aren't really counted by those of us who do not consider flash art worthy of recognition.
And, again, if that's the case, then TBN didn't get that memo. 
Or the people hawking "Christian" t-shirts. And dressing up for church.
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We are not to be prideful about our appearance.
Again, what does pride have to do with having a tattoo? Not to mention, well, all my other responses about how Christians dress, behave, and generally treat others not wearing the middle-upper class, white, suburban church uniform.
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We should NOT offend people by our appearance, but by the message of the cross.
Your opinion about tattoos is just that: your personal opinion. Tattoos are not "offensive." Again, I know very few people unadorned. Perhaps it would be out of place/unusual in your circles, but not being tattoo'd is unusual, in mine (and plenty of others).
What's offensive is the high-and-mighty, disdainful attitude from people who turn a personal preference into a point of self-righteousness.
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We are to be good stewards of our money. Many of the people I know who have the most tattoos are the ones who can least afford to spend money on something that isn't a necessity.
Again, I suppose you've dislodged your own mote, to have so much time to spend commenting upon others?
Just because you've known some people, who should have paid a bill instead of getting a tattoo, that, again, is certainly not the rule; the fiscal irresponsibility of a few should not be translated as an absolute.
Cell phones, large houses in "the right" neighborhood, shiny new cars, brand new clothing, internet access, cable television, etc., certainly aren't neccessities, but I don't see anyone around here rerouting their monthly cable bill to hand out blankets to homeless people.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/10/2007 1:30:20 PM
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I do not think tattoos are a sin. I do, however, think they are tacky. But that's just me.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/10/2007 4:40:23 PM
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Again your statements imply that your narrow definition of worldly is the only valid one.
Did I say that somewhere? I don't remember saying that my definition is the only valid one.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 12:03:36 AM
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Considering who Jesus had chosen for His disciples, I would say that if He had first arrived today to start His ministry, many of the disciples would have been tattooed.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 12:37:37 AM
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Considering who Jesus had chosen for His disciples, I would say that if He had first arrived today to start His ministry, many of the disciples would have been tattooed.
I'm sure there are at least 12 men on earth without tattoos!
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 12:45:03 AM
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And that means what? He is making reference to the fact that Jesus took social outcasts as his chosen 12 to spread his message. This isn't "counsel" this is what he meant.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 1:20:39 AM
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And that means what? He is making reference to the fact that Jesus took social outcasts as his chosen 12 to spread his message.
Oh, so you are saying people with tattoos are social outcasts?
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This isn't "counsel" this is what he meant.
I don't know what you mean by that statement.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 7:51:17 AM
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Oh, so you are saying people with tattoos are social outcasts?
Maybe not so much in this day but before the general idea was if you had a tattoo, it was generally frowned upon. Even in the professional standards if you have a tattoo, you better cover it up becasue some people look poorly at it.
I think it is kinda cute how you are trying to draw the heat off yourself by trying to spin one of my comments into a new line of fire for your righteous indignation. Nice touch.
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I don't know what you mean by that statement.
That was directed more at the mods to clarify my position.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 8:37:12 AM
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Oh, so you are saying people with tattoos are social outcasts?
Maybe not so much in this day but before the general idea was if you had a tattoo, it was generally frowned upon. Even in the professional standards if you have a tattoo, you better cover it up becasue some people look poorly at it.
I think it is kinda cute how you are trying to draw the heat off yourself by trying to spin one of my comments into a new line of fire for your righteous indignation. Nice touch.
Um, thanks...I guess?
I just thought it ironic that after all the pro-tattoo comments in here, on which side you seem to be, you then say that those are the type of folks Jesus would pick because he would pick social outcasts. Prior to that, I hadn't read any comments--from either side--commenting that people with tattoos were social outcasts.
I have no "righteous indignation" about this subject.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 5:23:53 PM
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I guess it's clear that if you want to not "imitate the world", you need to go business casual, and buy stock in Dockers and L.L. Bean. So, cover up those tats and head to the mall, and a stop at Supercuts on the way.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 5:41:32 PM
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I guess it's clear that if you want to not "imitate the world", you need to go business casual, and buy stock in Dockers and L.L. Bean. So, cover up those tats and head to the mall, and a stop at Supercuts on the way.
Why does it have to be Supercuts?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 6:15:45 PM
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Why does it have to be Supercuts?
A better haircut, and you're liable to draw attention to yourself.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 7:23:07 PM
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I guess it's clear that if you want to not "imitate the world", you need to go business casual, and buy stock in Dockers and L.L. Bean. So, cover up those tats and head to the mall, and a stop at Supercuts on the way.
Wouldn't that be imitating the world?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/15/2007 7:25:38 PM
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Anyway we dress is imitating the world.
< Message edited by daleklord -- 10/15/2007 7:32:55 PM >
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 10/16/2007 1:13:28 AM
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Again your statements imply that your narrow definition of worldly is the only valid one.
Did I say that somewhere? I don't remember saying that my definition is the only valid one.
I think it would be naive to suggest that you did not imply it.
I've no problems with tattoos. I have many family members who are wonderful Christians and have some very fun tattoos. I'd never get one, but that's because I'm terrified of needles.
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