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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 12:04:37 AM   
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Is there anything I can do for the general achy soreness? And other than lanolin is there anything I should (or for that matter should not) do to help heal the cracks? Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks.


I would always make sure to spread a little breast milk over my nipples and then not wear any shirt or bra so they could 'air out.'
If you are working that isn't practical But at night maybe you could try that.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 12:18:23 AM   
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THIS is a really neat Sesame Street clip about breastfeeding.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 1:27:38 AM   
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 3:43:41 AM   
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Creams or oils containing Calendula (marigold) are excellent for this.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 4:01:22 PM   
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That's a really sweet video, Ryanne! I miss Sesame Street!

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 4:57:21 PM   
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Is there anything I can do for the general achy soreness? And other than lanolin is there anything I should (or for that matter should not) do to help heal the cracks? Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks.


I would always make sure to spread a little breast milk over my nipples and then not wear any shirt or bra so they could 'air out.'
If you are working that isn't practical But at night maybe you could try that.

Also, make sure you change your breast pads every time you pump or nurse.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/29/2007 9:21:36 PM   
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Creams or oils containing Calendula (marigold) are excellent for this.

just be sure to wash before feeding baby..as Calendula is NOT for ingestion.....but IS great for skin healing. I wouldn't really recommend it for the nipples since you are breastfeeding...but aloe also works great.

It does sound like it could be thrush....so a little plain yogurt wouldn't hurt either.

IF you can...lay on the floor and expose your nipples to sunlight...change breastpads OFTEN..if they do not feel damp and do NOT use soap on your nipples...EVER.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 1:32:00 AM   
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I didn't want to take the "When breast wasn't best" thread off topic, so I thought I would quote it here.

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Hazel2 wrote:
Hi Ladies ... I posted earlier about my bf experience with Claire. My bfing this time is interesting ... as I said before, my goal is to get some breastmilk into Avery until she is six months old. It turns out (thanks to God), she prefers the breast to the bottle. I tend to bottle feed her unless my breasts are on full, but this baby knows when she wants to nurse! At certain feedings, she just won't take the bottle ... it is wonderful because it keeps me bfing when, frankly, I'd prefer to not. It is a nice time to cuddle up together and it always satisfies her ... but she does finish off with a few ounces of formula after we nurse.


I was just thinking that if you try to offer the breast first even if you feel empty, you might have some luck. Sometimes Jimmy will get the hiccups right after he eats. If I wait about 10 minutes, even if my breast feel empty, I'm able to feed him a little more to get rid of the hiccups. Anyway, I just wanted to say that even if you feel empty, you might still be able to produce some. Now that me and Jimmy are pretty in tune, I rarely feel full, but when Jimmy starts sucking, I can feel my breasts fill up. And, trust me, if you can persevere through the pain, it gets so much better. Your nipples toughen up, and your baby will become an expert latcher.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 8:44:42 AM   
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Okay, I think I need some help here. Bug(DS) is 4 months old and I pump exclusively for him. It seems like I am pumping around the clock but to be honest it is 6-7x/day for 20 minutes a breast (sometimes double pumping, others not). All in all I haven't had too many problems but for the last couple of weeks my breasts have been really sore and achy. I feel fine, no fever on anything so it's not mastitis or anything nasty like that. At least I don't think so. But then yesterday my nipples were cracked very badly, almost overnight. What I think is a little odd is that they haven't really been sore - they are now though!

So here I finally get around to my questions: Is there anything I can do for the general achy soreness? And other than lanolin is there anything I should (or for that matter should not) do to help heal the cracks? Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks.


Thanks for the advice ladies. I am using the lanolin (always was but more regularly), leaving a little breast milk on them and changing the bra pads every time I pump. I am seeing some improvement there. Going without a bra is not possible because it just plain hurts! I used to hate sleeping in one, now I have no choice. The sore/ache I described before is getting worse. Most of the day is just a serious ache but several times a day (in both breasts) it becomes a sharp pain that then throbs for a while. I can't find any bumps or hard places and the pain is not limited to a particular place so I don't think it is a clogged duct and I don't feel sick or feverish (just tired, but I have a 4 month old...) so mastitis doesn't seem likely either. W.O.F. suggested thrush but I am wondering how likely that is if I don't ever nurse him directly. I thought you usually got it from the baby. She also suggested yogurt, I eat it pretty much every day. If anyone has any other suggestions I would be happy to hear them. I know a lot of you ladies deal with serious pain every day and I am sorry if I seem whiny or wimpy I just don't want to ignore something that might serious. Thanks again.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 9:38:56 AM   
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I have a 4 month old...) so mastitis doesn't seem likely either.

maybe I am missing something but what does the age of the baby have to do with mastitis?

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W.O.F. suggested thrush but I am wondering how likely that is if I don't ever nurse him directly.

thrush is simply another word for a yeast infection...which can occur if your balance gets off for good vs bad bacteria.

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She also suggested yogurt, I eat it pretty much every day.

what kind do you eat? if it has sugar in it then that sugar will kill off the good bacteria that is in the yogurt. It has to be unflavored. Also it doesn't have to be just eaten...if it's a topical yeast infection it can be applied topically.

you can also turn to probiotics such as acidophilus...it comes in a pill form and it can be taken to clear up or keep things going right in the bacteria world in your system. It is perfectly safe for you OR baby....and won't hurt your system if it isn't needed.

Also keep an eye on baby's mouth...even if baby isn't nursing off of you, if it is thrush then you could pass it to baby from the pumping and milk. Make sure you are sterilizing the pump very well. Thrush will look like white patches on the inside of the baby's mouth and on their tongue that can not be wiped away.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 9:55:58 AM   
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I have a feeling my mil could be "interesting" to deal with. She told me I should 1. give my baby bottles of water in addition to breastmilk when he's born because he needs water and needs to get used to drinking it.
2. I should always use nipple shields to keep from getting sore.

Question: My nipples and areolas have felt dry and scaly lately....should I start putting lanolin cream on them now? How often?

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 10:10:29 AM   
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I can't find any bumps or hard places and the pain is not limited to a particular place so I don't think it is a clogged duct and I don't feel sick or feverish (just tired, but I have a 4 month old...) so mastitis doesn't seem likely either.


Sarah - I think she was saying since she doesn't feel sick or feverish, it's not likely mastitis. She added in the brackets that she does feel tired, but has a 4 month old baby, so it's probably not because of mastitis that she's tired.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 10:17:17 AM   
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Question: My nipples and areolas have felt dry and scaly lately....should I start putting lanolin cream on them now? How often?

yes...a few times a day. If you are dripping milk you could rub that into them too...DO NOT however squeeze to make the milk come out. Nipple stimulation can sometimes bring on contractions.
BF babies do not need water bottles, and using a shield may actually hurt your nipple more then help it in nursing. It will hurt until your nipple gets used to it...whether that's before or after using a shield...so I say just let the baby get used to your nipple and then you won't have to deal with that later


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 10:18:33 AM   
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I can't find any bumps or hard places and the pain is not limited to a particular place so I don't think it is a clogged duct and I don't feel sick or feverish (just tired, but I have a 4 month old...) so mastitis doesn't seem likely either.


Sarah - I think she was saying since she doesn't feel sick or feverish, it's not likely mastitis. She added in the brackets that she does feel tired, but has a 4 month old baby, so it's probably not because of mastitis that she's tired.

ok...well that makes more sense, but what she put before was what I quoted...and that didn't make sense to me...sounded like she was saying it was not likely because of the age of the baby.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 10:52:47 AM   
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I have a feeling my mil could be "interesting" to deal with. She told me I should 1. give my baby bottles of water in addition to breastmilk when he's born because he needs water and needs to get used to drinking it.
2. I should always use nipple shields to keep from getting sore.

Question: My nipples and areolas have felt dry and scaly lately....should I start putting lanolin cream on them now? How often?


Certainly on the lanolin cream... at the very worst, it won't hurt to put it on.

A midwife told me that the for milk, the first milk to come out of your breast during a feeding is very watery (really it looks like skim milk), and that will quench the baby's thirst. The hind milk that comes out later is much thicker and creamier and will satiate hunger. So, no water, definitely. Water has no caloric value and will slow the baby's weight gain.

I'd avoid the nipple shield unless you absolutely need it. Your nipples are going to hurt the first few weeks, but if you can get past those weeks, better to do without.

Did your MIL breast feed? My MIL bottle fed for different reasons, so she's been pretty ignorant about me BFing, but she's not obnoxious about it. She's willing to listen to me, when I correct her about some of her assumptions (only what comes up naturally in conversation, I don't lecture her or anything).
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 12:00:19 PM   
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I guess I wasn't clear. Bug being 4 months old has nothing to do with mastitis and everything to do with my being tired. I am not ruling out thrush, right now it seems to be the mostly likely thing. As far as the yogurt I hate the unflavored kind, but I will give it a try. I should be able to put up with it for a while, can I mix fruit in it or would that also defeat the purpose? Also, is everyone saying I should rub the yogurt on my nipples? Sorry if I am being dumb. It sounded like W.O.F. had said that (as well as Sarah) and I thought it sounded weird. Though if that is what it takes. Are the acidophilus tablets by the vitamins/supplements? I'll try to get out to the store and check today. I am going to sterilize the parts to the pump today too. Mark mentioned the other day that he saw some yellowish-white spots in the baby's mouth but when I looked I didn't see them. I think thrush looks like that? He is napping now so I'll check again when he wakes up and if I see something I'll try to wipe it out. If we have thrush do we both need an antifungal or will eating the yogurt etc. take care of it? The last time I looked up thrush I thought it said we would both need to take something for it.

Squarepeg/Amber giving a newborn much water at all can seriously upset their electrolyte balances so I would not do that at all. I looked at it a lot because of the pumping situation with Bug, I was worried he might (never was) get dehydrated and found out that it is really not a good idea. Also, avoid the nipple shields unless you absolutely have to use them, I tried them a few times and they did not cause a difference in the initial pain. Also, Bug hated them - I think he thought they tasted weird. My nipples actually started getting very dry last winter when I was late in my second trimester so I used the lanolin then, but when I started leaking in my 8th month I just rubbed that in. BTW, if you haven't done it yet you might want to stock up on bra pads soon. I had a couple of interesting days with what looked like little bullseyes on my shirts before Mark had a chance to take me shopping! I couldn't drive for the entire third trimester.

Well, Bug's awake now, so I am going to check his mouth. Thanks again ladies

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 12:07:58 PM   
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Also, is everyone saying I should rub the yogurt on my nipples?

yes...if it is thrush then you can use the yogurt topically...as in rub it on your nipples.

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Are the acidophilus tablets by the vitamins/supplements?

yes. You can get two kinds...one is more expensive and must be refrigerated. I have always used the cheaper ones and they worked fine too.

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Mark mentioned the other day that he saw some yellowish-white spots in the baby's mouth but when I looked I didn't see them. I think thrush looks like that?

thrush looks like THIS. also HERE is a good page on bfing and thrush.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 1:29:34 PM   
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Amber, Nipple Shields don't keep you from getting sore nipples, I still get them if Gabby's latch is bad and I'm using a nipple shield.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 1:37:26 PM   
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That's what I thought about nipple shields. I really don't think I'll bother.
And yep, I have breast pads already but haven't needed them. I am only leaking a very, very tiny amount, usually at night.
Sideways, my MIL did breast and bottle feeding combined. She's not an intrusive, bossy person, so I think if I explain certain things to her, like you said, she's not going to get upset.

I need to be buying a couple nursing bras, but will have to order them online. I know I should avoid underwire....is there anything else I should specifically watch for or avoid?
(Sorry I'm asking so many questions today! )

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 3:00:43 PM   
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squarepeg,

You definitely don't need to give a breastfed baby water! LOL! The first milk that comes before the hind milk is their 'thirst quencher'. God designed us to be able to provide every bit of nutrients and quencher for our babies, right in our gloriously made bodies!

As far as nipple shields go, I wore one with Hannah and I hated it! I had a tendency, as well, with them to get clogged ducts, which were horrible. Plus they are a pain! You've got to wash them off and make sure they're on right before each nursing...and they are totally unnecessary in most cases. Again, God designs our bodies to be able to feed our children, in most cases, without artificial nipples! You will likely get sore...I did, with Jael, but the Lanolin cream REALLY helps with it. Just be dilligent in putting on the cream before and after each nursing in the beginning and you'll be good to go! :0)

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 3:15:55 PM   
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Nipple Shields were my best friend when my nipples were sore and he wanted to eat
Judah was pretty easy going though and would go from breast to bottle to nipple shield and then back without any problems, so it really helped that I didn't have a fight getting him back to just the breast.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 3:20:32 PM   
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Hannah didn't have a problem going from breast with shield to bottle (I had to pump because of the shield, to keep up my supply). But she would NOT nurse for anything without the shield. They can be a crutch for some babies who don't want to work to get a nipple extended into their throats.

With Jael I didn't use one at all and my nipples were perfectly suffiecient for her. They would have been for Hannah had I not listened to the dumb 'lactation consultant' at the hospital.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 3:23:53 PM   
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I don't think we would still be nursing if the NICU nurses and then my LC hadn't suggested a nipple shield, her 3 days of bottles really messed up her desire/willingness to nurse. She will, on occasion nurse without it, but it isn't regularly and I'm ok with that now. She doesn't have any problems taking a bottle...

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 4:15:06 PM   
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The way you ladies were talking about nipple shields were sure confusing me because I used one when I had dd1 almost 12 years ago and she didn't used it when I nursed. I went and looked it up and it's something totally different.

What I had was what looked like a hard plastic ring that snapped to hard plastic cup: It kind of looked like a giant contact lens with a lip that folded in around the edge. I wore it when I wasn't nursing to try to "extract" an inney nipple. Now I can't even find something like that online

ETA: THIS is what I'm talking about. I guess they are called breast shells now.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 10/30/2007 5:25:04 PM   
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Amber why do you have to buy a maternity bra online? You really should try it on and get fitted properly for one. Also your size will change once you have your baby and the milk comes in, so only buy some cheap ones now to wear for the rest of the pregnancy and then get some better ones later on.
Your MIL is strange!

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