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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 11/12/2007 2:59:28 PM
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Thank you, Lw9. Very much.
I know that the dreams occur because I still have very strong feelings toward that church and toward the leadership. I need to let it go.
I appreciate what you wrote and what you are doing.
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Nana, I don't know anything about your abilities to interpret dreams -- like do you intend your own or those of others? Certainly, I can interpret my own most of the time -- sometimes immediately, and sometimes years later. But they are my own. I live my life, I know the elements in my life, and I know how and where the dreams intersect my life. For someone else to say they can interpret my dreams would, for me, be laughable.
I have to seriously write, however, that years of experience have taught me that the people in my own life who claim to have special powers simply have a need to be "special", to be noticed, to be above others; that may not be so in your case, and I so hope it isn't so for you.
But another concern I have is that, while I would not say that every gift of the Sp-rit is listed in the Bible, dream interpretation is not listed as such. Surely, most or some of us know our spirits and can decipher what the meanings of our own dreams are to some extent, but it took special situations in the Bible, usually of international consequence with regard to Israel, for people to properly interpret other people's dreams by the help of G-d. I can't imagine trying to place either myself or my little dreams on that same level.
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Oops! I guess Lw9 had the same question while I was also writing it. Sorry!
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 11/12/2007 3:14:42 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga:
Just know that in calling my own dream stupid and self-induced, I was in no way implying it was the same with you. I was pointing out just how silly my thoughts sometimes are and how they can follow me even into my dreams. You're not dealing with silly thoughts. What you've been experiencing are obviously deep wounds that have not healed, and traumatic memories can come up with triggers not of your own making. While these things also follow you into your dreams, it's on a completely different level and I take that very seriously. God absolutely can help you with the memories and your feelings, and that in turn will help you with these horrible nightmares. I just wish I could reach through this screen and give you a hug!!
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 11/12/2007 4:17:54 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga:
Just know that in calling my own dream stupid and self-induced, I was in no way implying it was the same with you. I was pointing out just how silly my thoughts sometimes are and how they can follow me even into my dreams. You're not dealing with silly thoughts. What you've been experiencing are obviously deep wounds that have not healed, and traumatic memories can come up with triggers not of your own making. While these things also follow you into your dreams, it's on a completely different level and I take that very seriously. God absolutely can help you with the memories and your feelings, and that in turn will help you with these horrible nightmares. I just wish I could reach through this screen and give you a hug!!
Oh, Lw9 -- that you were implying anything about my dreams when you referenced your own never crossed my mind! I have my own share of nighttime craziness, so in no way would I think that! Thank you, thank you. I'll take that hug!! -- and give one back! 
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/14/2007 4:51:01 PM
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I have to seriously write, however, that years of experience have taught me that the people in my own life who claim to have special powers simply have a need to be "special", to be noticed, to be above others;
That's sad that that has been your experience. I've not been involved with people like that. The people I've been around through the years are very humble and truly reflect Jesus in their lives.
To interpret dreams isn't a special 'power'. At least I wouldn't call it that. It the application of the gift of the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom.
Daniel 1:17
To these four young men God gave knowledge and understanding of all kinds of literature and learning. And Daniel could understand visions and dreams of all kinds.
Since God is the same today as He was yesterday, He is fully capable of giving any of His children the ability to understand visions and dreams of all kinds. Daniel had an ability given to him that the other three young men didn't. That also happens today. God gives abilities to some that He doesn't give to everyone. It's completely up to His Holy Spirit.
This verse also clearly shows that there ARE some dreams that need an understanding or interpretation given to them, else God wouldn't have needed to give Daniel this ability.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/14/2007 5:27:23 PM
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To interpret dreams isn't a special 'power'. At least I wouldn't call it that. It the application of the gift of the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom.
Daniel 1:17
To these four young men God gave knowledge and understanding of all kinds of literature and learning. And Daniel could understand visions and dreams of all kinds.
I truly regret that I may be thought to be so ignorant that I don't know the Scriptures. Yes, I have read Daniel. 
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This verse also clearly shows that there ARE some dreams that need an understanding or interpretation given to them, else God wouldn't have needed to give Daniel this ability.
Did I write that somewhere? No, I didn't. I wrote that all dreams are not messages from G-d. While I have never had a prophetic dream, I have also written that I have had occasional dreams that teach me something.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/14/2007 8:20:00 PM
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No problem, SD. The Internet can be both a wonderful place for communication as well as a place where communication is both easily misunderstood and difficult to make clear.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/15/2007 1:31:10 AM
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When I say "prophetic" I simply mean "from God", rather than "predicting".
Only two can I ever consider have been such, but I didn't need anyone to tell me what they were. I'd think that if God wanted you to know something, you'd have the ability to understand it.
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There have been studies that show how the human mind, regardless of one's personal experiences, uses the same or similiar representations for something. ie; black for the unknown, bodies of water representing life, or even multiple things like a lamb being innocence, vulnerability, or Christ.
It could be very likely someone familiar with these types of things, can use them to help someone piece together some random images. I myself don't think anyone can say "this dream means this", because it might be a bit dangerous if they just took your word and made their decisions based on it. But, I don't see much harm in giving several descriptions of what each color, animal, symbol, etc.. may commonly mean. In some cases, it might even give them some kind of peace of mind.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/15/2007 10:34:00 AM
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I'd think that if God wanted you to know something, you'd have the ability to understand it.
Yeah, "God spoke and I need people who _didn't_ get the dream to tell me what it means" = God would be telling you to spend your time pursuing men and women and their opinions. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Timothy 2:5
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There have been studies that show how the human mind, regardless of one's personal experiences, uses the same or similiar representations for something. ie; black for the unknown, bodies of water representing life, or even multiple things like a lamb being innocence, vulnerability, or Christ.
It could be very likely someone familiar with these types of things, can use them to help someone piece together some random images. I myself don't think anyone can say "this dream means this", because it might be a bit dangerous if they just took your word and made their decisions based on it. But, I don't see much harm in giving several descriptions of what each color, animal, symbol, etc.. may commonly mean. In some cases, it might even give them some kind of peace of mind.
Not to cross threads here, but the link is to an example of some of those who think dream interpreting should be a Christian pursuit.
http://ihop.churchinsight.com/group/group.aspx?id=1000011795
This is far afield from either plainly reading the Gospel and living your life in accord with it, or even from praying and believing you have received direction from God, a peace about a decision, or that God has given you a Scripture to think on that helped with a decision.
As far as if God did give a dream, here's a New Testament example:
Acts 16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; there stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
What was the result of this dream?
Acts 16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavored to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
It is straightforward. No flowers, portals, angels shaped like albino eagles, no dancing Jesuses, and no warning of destruction because of how mad God allegedly is about Israel all the time. No uncreated being named "Dominus", no pancake house, no politics, none of the dubious things Christians work themselves up about and then must inevitably dream about, outside influence working on them or not.
There is no doubt what the dream meant for Paul, and we are not Paul.
Could it be we must pursue interpreters because there's nothing there from God? Does the New Testament lead us down this direction or is it a contemporary aberration?
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/15/2007 2:52:51 PM
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Yeah, "God spoke and I need people who _didn't_ get the dream to tell me what it means" = God would be telling you to spend your time pursuing men and women and their opinions. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
I think there is a reason that God distributes gifts in the body differently. It's because we need to learn how to be a team and we need each other. If I"m sick, I would go to someone who I know has the gift of healing or a gift of faith. God will help confirm things to me with someone who has the gift of the word of knowledge or wisdom. I don't believe we are pursuing someone by doing that, we're simply recognizing that some have giftings and understanding that we ourselves might not have and we all work together as a team or body.
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It is straightforward. No flowers, portals, angels shaped like albino eagles, no dancing Jesuses,
God is not always straight forward. The pharoah over Joseph had a dream about thin cows and fat cows that was not easily understood. It took Joseph to interpret it. I don't easily understand some of my dreams and I must seek God and ask for the meaning of them. Sometimes it takes a couple weeks of seeking God before He gives me the revelation of it. Sometimes someone else has gotten insight for me on what something means and a quickening happens in my spirit that it is from God. Like, "of course! that's what that means, now the dream all fits together!" kind of revelation.
But I don't believe that everyone in the body gets dreams and visions and not everyone has the ability to understand dreams. I believe the Spirit comes upon differnt people, communicates differently to each of us, and distributes abilities, knowledge, and revelation as He chooses to do so:
Daniel 1:17
To these four young men God gave knowledge and understanding of all kinds of literature and learning. And Daniel could understand visions and dreams of all kinds.
All 4 men were given understanding of literature and learning, but Daniel was given something extra that the others were not. God gives abilities to us differently.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/15/2007 4:05:04 PM
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In Genesis 40-41, Joseph tells both the Baker 7 Cupbearer, as well as Pharaoh, that dream interpretation belongs to God.
I don't have a problem with prophetic dreams and interpretations, as long as the recognition is that they come from God. I don't think we always have to go to someone with the "gift" of interpretations of dreams. The interpretation comes from God, whether that is directly or through someone else.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/16/2007 12:04:52 AM
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In Genesis 40-41, Joseph tells both the Baker & Cupbearer, as well as Pharaoh, that dream interpretation belongs to God.
I don't have a problem with prophetic dreams and interpretations, as long as the recognition is that they come from God. I don't think we always have to go to someone with the "gift" of interpretations of dreams. The interpretation comes from God, whether that is directly or through someone else.
Yes, I totally agree. It ALL comes from God. I, too, believe we don't always have to go to other people. Most often God's given me revelation on my own dreams, but He's also used others to give me revelation. It's cool to see the body of Christ working like a body - one is an eye, the other is an ear. Kind of like - one sees thing in the spirit, the other hears things. (I'm not saying that an eye and ear necessarily mean that, I'm just saying it could.)
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/17/2007 9:38:36 AM
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There's a huge difference between believing that God might give a meaningful dream and the huge mess of contradictory dreams (as well as prophesies, but that's another thread) that people give credit to God for.
Anyone with literary skills can make an analogy out of anything.
If there's a pinhole of a chance God might give a meaningful dream, I don't allow for an eighteen-wheeler to drive through it.
There are way too many people who think God is constantly speaking some major thing to them, and they've already surpassed the total number of revelations in the Bible a long time ago.
Few examples in the Bible = few and far between now.
Also I wouldn't want to throw in with a godless Pharoah on my ability to hear God or not.
Just my two cents, but I wouldn't want to think every dream that went through my head was a message. There's not enough in Scripture to establish a teaching of dream interpretation. That would be called reading things into the text to suit a pre-conceived idea.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/17/2007 8:06:22 PM
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Few examples in the Bible = few and far between now.
Do you truly believe that scripture gives us EVERY single example of everything God did for and said to ALL of His children? Do you believe that scripture contains EVERY thing that Jesus did?
If not, then why would you think that we can calculate HOW often God speaks to His children today based on how many times it was recorded in scripture of Him speaking? We can't. That would be an impossibility.
No one on this thread has said that God speaks to us in dreams every single night or that God speaks to every person this way. He doesn't.
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Anyone with literary skills can make an analogy out of anything.
True. But only the Holy Spirit can give insight into God-given things.
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There's a huge difference between believing that God might give a meaningful dream and the huge mess of contradictory dreams... that people give credit to God for.
I wouldn't know. I've never listened to a huge mess of dreams. I only know of my own dreams and those that people have shared with me and they've never been contradictory.
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Also I wouldn't want to throw in with a godless Pharoah on my ability to hear God or not.
I wasn't speaking of Pharoah in regards to our ABILITY to hear God. I was speaking in reference to Him receiving a dream that needed an interpreter and Joseph was given by God the knowledge to do it. Many people who interpret dreams go to places (as you saw at the fair) to do so. They use the ability as a means to open the door to evangelize. I know of many people personally who have lead people to Christ because God was speaking something very personal to the person whose dream they are interpreting, and He's speaking to them through the dream. I believe that we need to use every means available to us, including the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom (the gifts that are applied in dream interpretation) to reach the lost. And I know the people who are out their evangelizing in this way believe they are obeying Jesus command for them to do so.
But I'm just sharing my thoughts on it. You don't need to believe any of it and I'm sure that you don't.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 12/18/2007 9:58:18 AM
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But I'm just sharing my thoughts on it. You don't need to believe any of it and I'm sure that you don't.
LOL. Thanks for the response. FYI, I think my line about the pinhole and the eighteen-wheeler sums me up. I take everything with, not a grain, but a whole box of salt.
Have a nice day, SD456. :)
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 9/23/2008 7:49:38 AM
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Early this morning, 23 September 2008, I was awakened from my sleep to record this dream.
I went to a church where the Pastor was presenting a series of classes on the book of Ezra. I was sitting at a desk, and he came to me and began to ask some questions. He asked my name, and I told him who I was. The very next question he asked was "Do you tithe"? I told him I give as the Lord leads, and give my time and talents to uplift the kingdom of God. I then told him I preached at a nursing home where, of course, I don't get paid. I went on to tell him about preaching at the radio station where I paid the cost of the program (only twice in over three years of preaching did someone else pay for the program). I said, "I've preached my heart out, and some hear and some don't". He replied, "It just might be that the Lord sent you today to cause me to think on why I am preaching, and to change my attitude".
I then went to an outside area where a crowd was gathered to hear a woman teacher who was also going to teach on Ezra. I was sitting in the audience, and there was red dust flying all around. She stood up behind the podium, turned on the microphone, and suddenly there was a commotion across the dirt road. She went over there to investigate, and was hit in the face above her eye, and was knocked down to the ground. She came to me, and said "You teach it". She then looked at her feet, and said "I hope they are not hurt, I had planned on going running when this was over".
I stood behind the pulpit, tried to adjust the microphone, but it kept slipping down. A member of the audience came up (he was an elderly man that I recognized) shook my hand, said "we are so glad you are here", and then adjusted the microphone. I looked at the printed outline that the woman teacher had prepared, and then looked for the Bible. It was lying on the ground by the pulpit, and was covered with red dust. Short and long sleeved white dress shirts lay over it. I was dressed in blue jeans and a tee shirt, so I picked up the Bible, and it was opened to Ezra, Chapter nine.
I first gave a testimony about how my dad was a bi-vocational preacher. He sold furniture during the week and had a route that he run. I told about going with him, walking all the streets of the town as I delivered sale papers. I also told about daddy going home to be with Jesus when he was 40 (I was 14). I testified about the lessons I had learned from him, especially about praying for others and being humble. I then began to read out of that dusty Bible, the book of Ezra.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 9/23/2008 12:01:30 PM
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I am just curious what has what you said about the dream. Have to do with inter marriage of the Israelites?
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 9/23/2008 1:56:49 PM
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The book of Ezra relates to the return of God's people to their land and fulfills a promise made in Jeremiah 29 v 10-14. Moreover, God used Ezra to rebuild the people spiritually and morally. When they intermarried with foreign women, and this caused them to follow after false Gods (don't be unequally yoked).
When Ezra led in prayer (Chapter 9 v 5-15), a revival broke out (Chap 10), and the "strange" wives were put away.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 9/25/2008 8:45:30 AM
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There are any number of different types of dreams. Most dreams are simply psychological processes dealing with thoughts and emotion of the day, or in your life. Sometimes when you have deep wounds the dreams are places where you try and work it out and get healing. God does give prophetic dreams sometimes. Like anything else, true dream interpretation is not a formula. It is not something where if I see a tree it means life or anything like that. When God speaks, He uses images that convey his meaning. The images God uses will always be consistent with the Word of God, and His message will be consistent. I believe most of what passes as dream interpretation is simply works of flesh and works of man and no different the Frued and Jung's attempts. Certainly the folks at the Renassaince Festival were engaging in what they thought was a good thing but in reality a work of flesh. When God gives interpretation of dreams, the meaning will always be clear to the receiver.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/1/2008 3:18:19 PM
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There are any number of different types of dreams. Most dreams are simply psychological processes dealing with thoughts and emotion of the day, or in your life. Sometimes when you have deep wounds the dreams are places where you try and work it out and get healing. God does give prophetic dreams sometimes. Like anything else, true dream interpretation is not a formula. It is not something where if I see a tree it means life or anything like that. When God speaks, He uses images that convey his meaning. The images God uses will always be consistent with the Word of God, and His message will be consistent. I believe most of what passes as dream interpretation is simply works of flesh and works of man and no different the Frued and Jung's attempts. Certainly the folks at the Renassaince Festival were engaging in what they thought was a good thing but in reality a work of flesh. When God gives interpretation of dreams, the meaning will always be clear to the receiver.
Take THIS and toss in about two Scriptures and suddenly there's Christian dream interpreters who will say they've got the real and pay no attention to the counterfeit.
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Certainly the folks at the Renassaince Festival were engaging in what they thought was a good thing but in reality a work of flesh.
Thanks for this...we are fasting approaching Ren Faire and I won't be unprepared for their "ministry".
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/3/2008 2:06:08 PM
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Hi All,
I haven't read through all the postings here but I did want to comment about how I feel about dreams as a whole. I have dreams more often than not. I first started having dreams on a regular basis in the midst of taking a class on "dreams from a biblical perspective" in my church. I never thought too much about dreams until about two years ago on my anniversary which led to my wife's baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues (the dream was impartational). Shortly after taking the class and having many more dreams, I decided to take a Streams 201 class which was a 3 day intensive on dreams & visions and dream interpretation. Dreams are metaphorical in nature and are often hard to interpret. It's only by the guidance of the Holy Spirit that dreams can be interpreted correctly. Are all dreams from God? No. You do want to keep an open mind to the fact that the Lord did speak to people through dreams and continues to. If you have dismissed the idea that He speaks through dreams, you should ask the Lord to provide you with confirmation that He does indeed speak through dreams. One path to having dreams if you have none is to repent of dismissing dreams and visions as a way that He still speaks today. This is no guarantee that you would start to have dreams, but to have all bases covered it's not a bad idea to do this (and repenting of something, even if you're not sure, it can't hurt)
One troubling thing that I read someone mention is that they knew of someone that did dream interpretation that used to be into Carl Jung. Jung has probably done more than any other psychologist to make elements of the occult acceptable to the non-discerning. In his autobiography "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" he revealed that he was influenced and oppressed by aspects of the occult.
Below is a listing of the different types of dreams that people can have. It's not exhaustive but it's certainly a good foundation:
1. Healing dreams... which are dreams about relationships, physical healing, or deliverance
2. Flushing dreams... these are dreams that you're usually involved in. It goes through you and it's just gone. The Lord is purging you of something. Something that you heard or saw and affected you
3. Calling dreams... the reveal a vocation or anointing... they provoke you to seek it out (the dream's purpose)... they tell you of something you need to focus on or prepare for
4. Warning dreams... they can be repetitive so that you take notice and listen
5. False dreams... the enemy provokes these... the enemy may be reacting to something that God is doing. If you have one of these, declare that God's will be done instead. God doesn't respond to what the enemy gives you in a false dream. God doesn't respond, He INITIATES (praise God)
6. Chemical dreams... a dream caused by a chemical that you ingest... from drugs, alcohol, foods, anesthesia... anesthesia can give you nightmares since you're in a vulnerable state... ask the Lord to protect you
7. Self-condition dreams... they tell you where you stand with God. They can be good or bad. They give you perspective
8. Courage dreams... they strengthen your hope / faith / courage
9. Correction dreams... they deal with attitudes and opinions
10. Direction dreams... they can help provide direction in your life
11. Intercession dreams... The Lord gives us a cause or a person to pray for. You may wake up with a sense of urgency to pray if you get one of these
12. Prophetic & revelatory dreams... dreams that reveal the future
13. Dark dreams... dreams that are devoid of color that reveal what the enemy wants to do. They usually doesn't feel ominous but do feel empty. If a dream seems good but is black and white, don't do or engage in what you're seeing. Ex. If in the dream you're getting a new job, pray that in the natural that you're not tempted to take that job
14. Spiritual Warfare dreams... attacks against us or others. They're often in black and white or in muted colors (because the enemy is a counterfeiter). They're often interactive
15. Fear dreams... these are the result of allowing too many fears in our lives. If you fear something in the natural and then dream about it, it's a fear dream. When you're in fear, you're not in faith. Fear is never of God
16. Invention dreams... you get an idea through a dream, a revelation. Examples of this... Edison got the idea of the lightbulb from a dream. Einstein got the theory of relativity from a dream
17. Word of knowledge dreams... these talk about what is going on in someone's life
18. Deliverance dreams... demonization or oppression are removed in these types of dreams
19. Soul dreams... your personal desires are being dreamed. You want to repent of these (ex. if you dream of having sex with a neighbor). In these dreams, your soul can also be crying out for God. That would be a sanctified soul dream (ex. dreaming of preaching or wanting to love God more)
I hope some of this information blesses people!
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/3/2008 2:41:48 PM
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UnclePunk
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I wanted to post in a separate message about how the Lord uses dreams to accomplish His purposes. This is not to bring myself glorification in any way, but to illustrate an amazing way that the Lord can work in your life. This is consequently the first time I've had a dream of this nature.
About two weeks ago I had a dream. There was a storm outside. My wife and I were coming in and we saw a sign on someone's door on the first floor. It said there had been a robbery there. We were both shocked and made our way to the elevator to go to our floor. When we got into the elevator there were a couple shady looking women. They looked like they were up to no good and didn't belong in the building. They started opening and closing the sides of the elevator (strange) very slowly, both as the elevator was stationary and while it was moving. When my wife and I got off, I pretended to ask my wife to go back downstairs as if we had forgotten to pick up our mail. I did this since I thought if we opened our door that they might've tried to force themselves into our apartment. Consequently, they didn't care about us. They actually had a key to the apartment across the hall from me.
When I woke up from the dream I wondered what the dream might've been. My initial thought was that I had to pray for protection for my apartment and the building as a whole. There had been a few notices recently that there were some burglaries in the area. I thought that as far as those shady women having the key to my neighbor's apartment, I thought they might've broken in previously and possibly bound the people within. It seemed to make sense.
About a week later I was praying in tongues on my way home when suddenly the dream popped into my head again, this time with the real interpretation. Those shady women represented death & the enemy. In the apartment that had a sign that said there was a robbery there a woman's husband had died of cancer a number of years ago. The man across the hall from me had a father that lived with him that had cancer. He lives with his elderly parents. Those shady women had the key to the apartment. Keys represent authority. More importantly, since the shady women had the key and just let themselves in, that probably meant that the father wasn't saved!
I prayed about the interpretation and asked the Lord to provide favor in the situation. If He wanted me to get involved, provide a means by which to speak to the man's father. I speak to my neighbor all the time. We both have dogs and walk them and bump into each other. He also received packages for me when I'm not at home too, since he's retired. I met his father twice when my little dog ran into his apartment uninvited ;) My neighbor's father is elderly (91) and has a multitude of problems. He has prostate cancer, fell and hurt his hip, has dementia, isn't eating. A slew of things. I know that recently his father had been admitted to a short term rehab center / nursing home.
A day or two after I prayed about the interpretation I contacted my neighbor. He had received a few packages for my wife and I. I spoke to him and asked about his father. He said that his father wasn't doing too well and probably wouldn't be around much longer. His weight had gone down from 116pbs in May to roughly 86lbs (!) now. His father didn't eat very much and his PSA level is now at 48 (just so you know, a PSA level of 4 is reason to start investigating problems). That high level means that the cancer is spreading. I asked him if my wife and I could go to the nursing home and see him, that we often go different places and pray for people along with two other friends. He was very open to it. I asked him about his beliefs. He's Catholic but hasn't gone to church or anything in years.
My friends and I went to see the man's father on Wednesday evening. The man across the hall was ok with us visiting without him being there since he trusts us. He didn't recognize me but I didn't expect him to, especially given the dementia. We asked him a few questions about his faith. From what we gathered, he wasn't really processing things. We asked if we could pray for him and he said yes. As we prayed for him, he fell asleep. When he was asleep, we spoke to his spirit and asked that it accept Jesus as his personal savior. At one point his body shook. It's at that point we feel that "the deal was sealed." After we finished praying and were about to leave he woke up. We then said goodbye to him and were on our way.
The morning after MY WIFE had a dream that someone would be resurrected in five days. We don't know if that was a confirmation of what will happen with our neighbor's father or whether it was for someone else so we just prayed for it. As five days haven't passed yet, we're still praying for whomever that person might be. Please keep my neighbor's father in your prayers.
Whether we receive a confirmation from the Lord or not is irrelevant. We're thankful that the Lord gave us insight into an important situation... a person's salvation. Praise you Jesus for working in this way today. Lord God, I pray that you use all within this forum in such a way soas people will be healed, saved, and delivered through their faithfulness in You. Give your body insight into how you still work today. Bless Your name Father!
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/7/2008 1:52:10 PM
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leonfigg3
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I know that God has spoken to me in dreams, in the past. Sometimes I wish he would do it more often than He does. Each time He has I have quickly forgotten the dream until that exact situation becomes real, and fills me with a feeling of de ja vu. He has also spoken to me in dreams at times I needed guidance from Him and the assurance that He would be with me.
The fact that he has helps me to remember that we can not put Him in a box and say He is only able to act this wayor that.
I believe that if and when God/ Jesus speaks to you in a dream it is a very intimate and special moment that no interpreter can touch.
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RE: Hence cometh...the Dream Interpreters - 10/7/2008 3:04:33 PM
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LBolt
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I have not read through this entire post. Do I believe in dreams. YES!!! Those who can interpret? YES!!!
Joseph, Daniel are two cases through which the Spirit of God worked through. Dreams have been the very vehicle that God has used to revolutionized our world. Saved and unsaved people have important dreams. Yahshua's very life was preserved through a dream.
Modern day medical and scientific breakthroughs and inventions have come about through dreams. Harriet Tubman was guided through the language of dreams to discover the underground railroad which to to the freedom of slaves. What if she just ignored those dreams and dismissed them as garbage? Madame CJ Walker was given a dream about hair products for Black women and it made her extremely wealthy. Abraham Lincoln was given a dream about his assaination before it happen...what if he had token it seriously or done something to avert this? Martin Luther King Jr. literally had a dream of racial unity among all people and that he would not live to see it come to pass but I'm walking in that blessing!
Einstein's theory of relativity (E=MC squared) was revealed through a dream. SD456 hits somethings right on in her posts. In the last days Yah said He'd pour out His Spirit upon all flesh...and that people would dream dreams. This is Bible, precious saints!!
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