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PaleHawkWoman -> RE: A Matter of Color... Skin Color - One Stop Thread (8/25/2008 12:57:26 AM)
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ORIGINAL: HisFish
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My people most certainly DID NOT worship rocksand sticks.We worshipped the Creator of the Universe... you know, GOD.
No you didnt. say what you will, that you worshiped the "great spirit", the "great father", or what ever, you most certainly didnt worship the God of the bible. You show me in the american indian religious tradition that Jesus became man to suffer and die for the sin of man kind. Dont tell me about ravens or turtles or white buffalos, or any great owl for that matter. show me the commandments of God according to american indian lore, because if you didnt have it according to the word of God in the bible, then you never had it.
First of all tell me what you are basing your assertations on. What tribe have you lived with and studied the traditional beliefs of? It surely isn't mine, as we have always known who God is- the Creator, the Great Holy Mystery, The Almighty, The One Above, The Giver, The Provider, The Heaven Chief, Father of Us All, The Sacred Fire, The Holder of the Heavens, and several other names.
Do you honestly think that God is so limited that He can't develop a relationship with people without some white man bringing Him over in a book that the white man himself gives little more than lip service to... in the interest of the Gospel of Conquest and Greed rather than the Gospel of Christ, of course. Do you not know that His first testament to Himself is His creation and that He uses the lessons therein to reach and instruct those who seek Him?
If you examine the Bible closely you will see:
that the four directions are addressed as sacred...we do the same.
animals represent spiritual qualities or aspects of divine power and thus assume sacred symbolism...we see them this way as well. Viewing something as sacred is NOT the same as worshipping it as a god. And while we're there, tell me how a flag is more sacred than something made by God's own hand, like a buffalo or eagle.
the the Hebrews recognized the presence of God everywhere, but held certain places as especially sacred sites... so do we.
that nothing belongs to man but all things belong to the One who made them... we also recognize this.
that metaphor and stories are part of the language to teach spiritual principles, such as Jesus' parables...we have the same thing in our traditions.
And for your edification, let it be known thet we Cherokee KNEW of the birth of the Creator-Son because we were told of it at the time it happened by the Nunyehi, the Immortal Ones who were messengers of the Creator. Thrity-three years late, they told us of His death and resurrection. Then He came to us in His resurrected form- He healed the sick, resurrected the dead, and gave us The Words of Life(and no this is NOT that Mormon stuff). No one BUT the Lord could have resurrected the dead, for Satan does not have this ability. He also warned us about white folks, who would come speaking His name but using it to do us evil, which is why we were very hostile to the white man from the beginning of contact. I was taught The Words of Life as a child and they concur exactly with Scripture although they are not as extensive as the Bible.
Unless you are Cherokee and have been raised within the traditional culture, please DO NOT insult me by claiming that you know more than I do about what my people believe. I may be Indian, but even I deserve more respect than that.
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