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paulsbride -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/14/2008 12:17:35 PM)

My water was "dripping" when I went in to the hospital with Judah - it was like I was constantly peeing my pants.

I had the cerclage in place when I went into the hospital, so they couldn't tell if I'd dilated. When they cut out the stitch I was at 4cm (I was appx. 3 cm when the cerclage was placed.)
I think he was born 4 hours after the stitch came out.

The doctor today said that the cerclage prolongs preterm labor, and his concern is that even with the cerclage I went into labor 5 weeks early.
I am quite certain they are going to give me the option to get the shots for lung development - *my* high risk doctor said he would recommend it, but my case is being handed over to the high risk specialists now, so I will see what they say.

The doctor today was marvelous, but he has me more concerned about issues than I was prior to the appointment - I thought it was *all* about my cervix dilating prematurely and a cerclage would fix that ... turns out that isn't his concern hardly at all.

I am SO GLAD that I personally know the Creator of this baby and that He is personally involved with all these details ... I just want to sit and cry and freak out, but that's so silly, and I am in awe of God's sufficient grace.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/14/2008 12:18:21 PM)

Tammy, cord prolapse is a valid concern. Acutally because Biruk kept moving around, my midwives were worried about that too. I think he did eventually engage at the very, very end. One thing the recommended to help that happen was to spend a lot of time squatting.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/14/2008 12:19:59 PM)

{{{{{Jessica}}}}}



PrincessDonna -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/14/2008 12:26:17 PM)

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I am SO GLAD that I personally know the Creator of this baby and that He is personally involved with all these details ... I just want to sit and cry and freak out, but that's so silly, and I am in awe of God's sufficient grace.


It's not silly to fear for your child's life and well-being, and add hormonal-ness on top of that. Not silly at all. Whenever you're in doubt, just look at Judah and know that God has THIS baby is His powerful hands too.

((((((((((((((Jess)))))))))))))))) Praying for you, for sure. Hey, I'll even pray you go late! LOL

I think I'd definitely do the shots for lung development, if I were in your position. When would they do those?



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 3:21:07 PM)

New question (to keep this thread bumped up)

What (non medical methods) helped you the most when you were laboring?

So far I've been very much annoyed that i haven't been able to use the midwife center jacuzzi. [:@]

With Gebre's birth, I really, really loved the birth ball. I sat on it until I was ready to push, and it was very comfortable and helpful.

I think Biruk was in a different position because my labor was so different pain-wise, and I probably couldn't have used the ball even if I'd had time to. In early labor a hot shower felt sooooooo wonderful. Wish I could have stayed in there the whole time! With him, all I could do was find the position that felt good (bent over) and stick with it.

With both of them I did a lot of self-talk, telling myself over and over that I could do it, that the feelings were normal, that I was going to get a baby out of all this, etc. It sounds dumb but it really did help me keep from panicking.

And keeping my tones very low if I yelled. I did a lot of yelling with Biruk. [8D] But anytime I started to sound shrill, the midwives would remind me to lower my tone and roar instead of scream.



clag4christ -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 3:34:11 PM)

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What (non medical methods) helped you the most when you were laboring?


Walking helped a great deal. As did leaning over and swaying my hips. Next time around maybe I'll get to use a birth ball. From everything I've heard and read they are so tremendously helpful!

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With both of them I did a lot of self-talk, telling myself over and over that I could do it, that the feelings were normal, that I was going to get a baby out of all this, etc. It sounds dumb but it really did help me keep from panicking.


I did actual audible self talk to Jael and myself when I was pushing her out. I was saying things like, "C'mon Jael! You can do it! We can do this together! It's almost over, c'mon!" I also really really liked having the mirror there at the end of the hospital bed to see her head coming out and see the progress I was making. [:)]



BlessedMamaofmany -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 3:34:12 PM)

I moaned and growled a lot with Isaiah. I also sat on the ball.
Since I did a lot of laboring at home, and we had no furniture...I labored a lot on the floor on my hands and knees. That was nice too.
I agree about low tones Maggie. Growling and roaring is very helpful. It's almost like bringing the pain all the way up from the bottom of you and growling it out of you. [;)]
Sandy



Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 4:00:53 PM)

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But anytime I started to sound shrill, the midwives would remind me to lower my tone and roar instead of scream.


When my sister was pushing and making a little bit of noise her OB said (in a not very nice way) "Why are you doing that? You're hurting my ears and I don't like it. You don't need to make those noises."

I wanted to say a plethora of very unkind things. [&:][:@][>:][&o]

I think watching my sister's birth experience has increased my desire to have our baby and home and naturally!



Jenny-Fair -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 4:02:24 PM)

My midwife taught me to drop my chin as low as I could and make a round sound--"Open mouth, open cervix!" is what she kept saying, lol.



paulsbride -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 4:55:23 PM)

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What (non medical methods) helped you the most when you were laboring?


I didn't get much natural - I was monitored, forced to stay laying on my back... so from my limited non-medical methods I'd have to say my husband! I know mentally that if he couldn't of made it back for the delivery I *could* have done it on my own ... but I would never want to do that alone and he was a marvelous support. [sm=heart.gif]



Jenny-Fair -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 5:31:28 PM)

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I didn't get much natural - I was monitored, forced to stay laying on my back... so from my limited non-medical methods I'd have to say my husband!
Pffffzzt! I think you need a new siggy! "Husbands: The 100% Natural, Grade-A alternative"



clag4christ -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 5:33:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair

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I didn't get much natural - I was monitored, forced to stay laying on my back... so from my limited non-medical methods I'd have to say my husband!
Pffffzzt! I think you need a new siggy! "Husbands: The 100% Natural, Grade-A alternative"


That is a FANTASTIC siggy!



EmilyAnn -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 7:10:21 PM)

I have a question about birth balls. I am having a home birth so I will have to get my own. Is it the same thing as an exercise ball? What size should it be? I think when I looked at the store they had 55 inch, 65 inch, and 75 inch.



peculiar_lady2 -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 7:26:35 PM)

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I have a question about birth balls. I am having a home birth so I will have to get my own. Is it the same thing as an exercise ball?

yes...pretty much the same thing just sold in different areas and for different prices....it's all about marketing!!!
I would say for the size you really need to see what you are most comfortable balancing on



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 8:46:32 PM)

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When my sister was pushing and making a little bit of noise her OB said (in a not very nice way) "Why are you doing that? You're hurting my ears and I don't like it. You don't need to make those noises."


Oooooh, that's just disgusting. [:@] I probably would have screamed just out of pure spite. "I'm hurting your ears, you say?" [8D]



thisistheday -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 9:01:54 PM)

So when I took "Lamaze" or whatever they called it way back when (early 90s) they told us to push without making noise, so all our energy was going into pushing. That was really hard. Now I'm starting to think that it was just for the comfort of the doctors and nurses.

I remember the nurses reminding me to not make noise while pushing, although I don't think I always listened.

Dee



clag4christ -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 10:28:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom

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When my sister was pushing and making a little bit of noise her OB said (in a not very nice way) "Why are you doing that? You're hurting my ears and I don't like it. You don't need to make those noises."


Oooooh, that's just disgusting. [:@] I probably would have screamed just out of pure spite. "I'm hurting your ears, you say?" [8D]



Me too! Yeah...like it's really all about the ob's comfort, right? Those are the things that just make me want to homebirth even more...I wonder if I should switch to the midwife in my ob's practice? I really like my ob but he didn't end up delivering me last time anyway...



Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 10:41:26 PM)

It was really hard for me to hear. They also were a primarily French-speaking hospital, but my sister speaks very little French. They would often talk (clearly about her) in French and then not translate. They also tried to break her water without telling her what they were doing. The doctor said she was just checking her and then when she wasn't looking got the hook out. My sister was like "what are you doing?" and they wouldn't tell her! I demanded they tell her and they eventually said "oh it's okay dear, we're just trying to break your water." She was only 1 cm dilated. Sigh.



clag4christ -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 10:43:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Royal.Fortress

It was really hard for me to hear. They also were a primarily French-speaking hospital, but my sister speaks very little French. They would often talk (clearly about her) in French and then not translate. They also tried to break her water without telling her what they were doing. The doctor said she was just checking her and then when she wasn't looking got the hook out. My sister was like "what are you doing?" and they wouldn't tell her! I demanded they tell her and they eventually said "oh it's okay dear, we're just trying to break your water." She was only 1 cm dilated. Sigh.


WOW! That is grounds imo, if something had gone wrong, for a lawsuit. They were clearly NOT acting in either her or her baby's best interest. Did she report those doctors/nurses to the Canadian equivalent of the AMA?

It's such a blessing that you were there Kim!



Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/17/2008 10:48:26 PM)

Thanks, Clag! It was such an honour to be there and I'm certainly glad I was there for what I was ... when her baby was born and wasn't breathing (his 1 minute apgar was I think a 2 or 3), NO ONE was telling her anything. I was the only one explaining what was happening and encouraging her to talk to him and call to him, and telling her husband to get over there and see his child. It was such a frustrating labour/birth to witness!

Sadly, I'm not sure she saw anything wrong with what happened - she did at the time, but I'm not sure she blames any of it on the OB! I haven't actually talked to her about it ... I'm afraid I'd get too upset! I was thinking about it today and she was induced due to "non-reassuring fetal heart tones" but the entire induction his heart tones were fine ... hmmm ...



TammyIsBlessed -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/18/2008 12:03:24 AM)

Would breaking the waters intentionally to try to induce be a better option than using pitocin?



peculiar_lady2 -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/18/2008 12:25:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TammyIsBlessed

Would breaking the waters intentionally to try to induce be a better option than using pitocin?

pit didn't work with me on my second labor...induced for medical reasons. Full pit drip for over 8 hours with nothing happening...not even a twinge. Because it was medically necessary they were on a time line, and they decided to try breaking my water before they went straight to C-sec. It worked...within minutes of them breaking my water I had started labor. 8 hours later (my shortest labor to date!!!) she was born.



JoyfulWife -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/18/2008 12:32:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TammyIsBlessed

Would breaking the waters intentionally to try to induce be a better option than using pitocin?


I really don't think it would. I'm not a fan of induction in general, but breaking the waters intentionally is probably more likely to set you up for a labor full of interventions. Especially since you are then put on a time-clock, and if your body's not ready, it's not going to respond well. I know of one labor where the woman was tired of being pregnant and wanted to go ahead and have the baby. The woman was not in any form of labor, but the doctor went ahead and broke her waters at 2 cm. The baby was not even engaged when he broke her waters, and she ended up with a cord prolapse. That turned into an automatic c-section. And of course no one said, "Wow, we shouldn't have induced so early or broken the waters when your body clearly wasn't ready for labor." Instead they said, "Wow, it's a good thing you decided to induce labor. Without us, your baby would have died." No one seemed to get it that the OB actually created the dangerous situation [8|]



JoyfulWife -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/18/2008 12:43:38 AM)

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What (non medical methods) helped you the most when you were laboring?


Walking, moving and changing positions lots, self-talk, having my husband put gentle pressure on my shoulders and back, visualization of the body working, breathing in an even and deep manner, eating and drinking yummy things [8D]

Things that didn't help:

Doing "horse-lips" (I HATED doing that), crawling around on hands and knees to get the to baby shift back (her head was coming at an angle so they were trying to get me in a position that would fix her head positioning), people talking (that really annoyed me), and sitting in a birthing pool (I was at 9cm, but it completely stalled out my labor - I think the water was too hot).

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Is it the same thing as an exercise ball?


Yes and I think mine is 65 inch. If you are on the shorter side, go for 55 inch. I found mine at Walmart for around $13.00.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion (1/18/2008 8:26:20 AM)

I guess I can understand the reasoning behind "silent pushing"--you'd think it gives you more pushing power, you're not distracted by noise, etc.

But I think the problem with it is that it's the wrong kind of pushing and can make problems. Kind of like straining a lot when you're constipated can cause hemerrhoids (sp?). [:o]

I was very vocal during pushing and it didn't hinder things at all. My last two babies were out in 15 minutes flat. [sm=icon_smile_faint.gif]

I don't know how much truth is to the theory that a wide open mouth/throat help things "down there" loosen and open, but that is why "roaring" is encouraged.



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