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Bluethread -> RE: Christmas, 2008 (9/5/2008 6:02:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
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ORIGINAL: Bluethread
...Would it be acceptable to say that those who observe "christmas" are in bondage to the society of the USA? Also, what is it when someone says one is not keeping December 25th properly, if it does not include an acknowledgement of something that didn't even occur at that time?
A) Society did not make the decision to celebrate the Incarnation on 12/25. Society followed the established Church, then added much that wasn't present hundreds of years ago. So it's a moot point about being in bondage to society.
B) I have never seen a handbook on how to keep 12/25. I have routinely celebrated the Incarnation on other dates for my family's convenience without any feeling of impropriety. It's the keepers of ancient feasts that seem to have a proper way to "keep" feasts. Again, a moot point.
C) I believe I have said more than once that I've known December 25 was not the day of the Incarnation since the 1960s. That is a non-issue.
Just curious, since Carl hasn't found time to embrace or reject the statements I posted from his authoritative website on Sabbath & Christmas, what do you think about the sorts of things that person and his crowd teach?
Must I always restate to circumstantial information to make a point?
A) Do you say one is in bondage when one follows any tradition regardless of it's origins or is it just those that follow biblical tradition that bothers you? If you have called the following of traditon in general bondage, I have not noticed it.
B & C) I was using Dec. 25th as a point of reference. I know you have said the date is arbitrary. Also, my original statement was not directed at you specifically. Until you stateed you revultion with my alternative, I did not refer to you at all. I was talking of those who decry the idea that the "christ" has been taken out of "christmas", because some to see it as a "commercial" holiday. "In for a penny, in for a pound." refers to the idea that if one accepts another persons observance, one can not expect that person to change that observance to suit ones preferences.
For the third time, I have no problem with those who do good, religious or commercial. Therefore, I question your generalization that, "It's the keepers of ancient feasts that seem to have a proper way to 'keep' feasts." There are many more people who are particular about the observance of christmas than there are people who question the keeping of the feasts. When was the last time you heard someone say, "It's about time we put the Sukkah back in Sukkot."
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