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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/8/2008 6:04:20 PM
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Obama is proposing a mixture of private, and government when the private sector cannot come thru.
Beautiful!
Now how much is it going to cost?
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Can we afford it?
- Julius
Ok saved9201,
Are you content with the current health insurance situation in this country? I have great health insurance. However, I know others that do not - like my neighbor who started a charity (that aided people with food, clothes, rehab) - now she's retired, has been dropped by her health insurance company due to her ailing back that leaves her immobile and will probably have to take a second mortgage out to pay for her back surgery.
Now, this story is echoed all over the country - and unfortunately, with even sadder stories that involve someone's life.
Again, obviously the current health insurance climate, that of privatized health care is NOT working given the aforementioned, and the fact that there are 46 million Americans without health insurance. Obama is not proposing a single payer system - ONLY Nader is. Obama is proposing a mixture of privatized and government.
You don't like it - what is your solution?...I'm still waiting with the popcorn...
Unless, of course, you think that the richest country on earth should be content to have people taking second mortgages out on their house to pay for surgeries because they have been dropped by their insurance company...if you think this way, good for you and good luck.
Peace and God bless,
PS BTW - Obama wants us out of Iraq in the ill-conceived war that His Majesty started - that oughta put billions, maybe even trillions back into the economy - I see you neglected to mention how costly this is.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/8/2008 6:31:42 PM
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/8/2008 8:29:08 PM
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
You're right. Shame on whoever interrupted this highly informative thread of utmost importance about
Barack Obama being a cult leader to discuss a trivial political issue like his proposed health care plan!
- Julius
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/8/2008 11:57:58 PM
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Julius, being hateful to a brother or sister in Christ, reflects bad on you. Think about it.
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
You're right. Shame on whoever interrupted this highly informative thread of utmost importance about
Barack Obama being a cult leader to discuss a trivial political issue like his proposed health care plan!
- Julius
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/9/2008 4:57:20 AM
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Julius, being hateful to a brother or sister in Christ, reflects bad on you. Think about it.
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
You're right. Shame on whoever interrupted this highly informative thread of utmost importance about
Barack Obama being a cult leader to discuss a trivial political issue like his proposed health care plan!
- Julius
What was "hateful" about my post? Sarcastic, silly, witty, yes, but "hateful"?
- Julius
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/9/2008 10:24:15 AM
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
LOL. Heaven forbid we actually discuss the issues.
Maybe I should start a thread "Was the Ronald Reagan campaign cult like?"
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/9/2008 2:24:52 PM
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Just think we need to have peace between us. Wing just this is not the title of the OP. Whatever we may think agree or disagree, we are all still in the family of God. I myself, am going to make an effort not to cause offense,or else I will leave this Current Events, if I cannot. Debate is just that debate,opinion. Saved, if I judged you wrongly, forgive me once again.  may God richly bless you.
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Julius, being hateful to a brother or sister in Christ, reflects bad on you. Think about it.
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This is good conversation, but what does this have to do with cult and BO (LOL). Maybe they need all things Obama thread, Hillary, and McCain. It confuses me.
You're right. Shame on whoever interrupted this highly informative thread of utmost importance about
Barack Obama being a cult leader to discuss a trivial political issue like his proposed health care plan!
- Julius
What was "hateful" about my post? Sarcastic, silly, witty, yes, but "hateful"?
- Julius
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/10/2008 9:48:16 AM
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You have a better solution? Then put it on the table. Otherwise stop knocking ideas down when you yourself does not have one.
Please forgive me for not having the eye of faith in BO, as you do. Please forgive my blasphemy, against someone who(just like HRC, and McCain), has never made a payroll, to be lord over all of our health insurance. He does, after all, speak eloquently, and has a snazzy website(with really fine print, I might add). Help me thy unbelief!
"Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem"(Ronald Reagan) nuff said.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/10/2008 10:00:54 AM
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I do not have faith in this man, was watching an interview done a couple years ago with his pastor, the pastor is a biggot, racist. He hates white people, he as much as said it. I saw the interview myself.Now a man who is of God would love everyone. BO, really goes to this church that believes that. I not even a pastor love black people. So it is really a bad thing for a man of the cloth to promote racist views. I would not go to a church that, hated black people. We love the AA people in our church. I wish there were more. I love the free worship style, many AA embrace, and the love they show. When you see a man like this pastor, it feels disappointing that he a person that causes divison. MLK, would have never been that way, or went to that type of church. So BO does not get my support.
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You have a better solution? Then put it on the table. Otherwise stop knocking ideas down when you yourself does not have one.
Please forgive me for not having the eye of faith in BO, as you do. Please forgive my blasphemy, against someone who(just like HRC, and McCain), has never made a payroll, to be lord over all of our health insurance. He does, after all, speak eloquently, and has a snazzy website(with really fine print, I might add). Help me thy unbelief!
"Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem"(Ronald Reagan) nuff said.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/11/2008 7:36:54 AM
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You have a better solution? Then put it on the table. Otherwise stop knocking ideas down when you yourself does not have one.
Please forgive me for not having the eye of faith in BO, as you do. Please forgive my blasphemy, against someone who(just like HRC, and McCain), has never made a payroll, to be lord over all of our health insurance. He does, after all, speak eloquently, and has a snazzy website(with really fine print, I might add). Help me thy unbelief!
"Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem"(Ronald Reagan) nuff said.
its_Go_time,
I have not said I am voting for Obama. I am an independent and have not decided yet - though leaning towards Obama.
My point was that you were saying they all want to 'totally federalize' our health insurance system - that is not true. Obama wants a mixture of private and government paid health insurance. HRC and McCain are not proposing a single payer system either. Nader is the only one that wants a single payer system thru the government. Perhaps you should read what the candidates say before you put words into their mouths.
And, my guess is is that either you are content with the current privatized system - a system that leaves 46 million without health insurance; a system that forces people to take second mortgages to pay for surgeries because they have been dropped by their insurance companies - a system that encourages this behaviour.
Or, perhaps, you do not have a solution yourself, and this is, well, all you have to say.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/11/2008 12:17:13 PM
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My solution for this, and so many other issues in this country, is for the Government, to get out of the way. http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=424
The farther the govt., sticks their nose in, be it medicine, transportation, or education, it always costs more. The thing is, most in DC know this, so they create-a-crisis, so the masses will clamour for their 'help'. Of course, it always comes with a price; Watch 'The Godfather' to help you understand such a strategy.
I actually gave BO a serious look, until I started reading of the usual, liberal, "targeted" tax cuts, and benefits, that require you to jump thru certain hoops, in order to qualify, as well as the class envy tactics, so typical of Democrats these days. As I posted in another thread, the count of poor people I've worked for is '0' for 30 years.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 12:27:24 AM
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First of all, I'm a black man and I'm new to Crosswalk. Obama not leading a "cult". He's just learned from his preacher how to shuck and jive and tell his audience what they want to hear. Like that they don't have to be responsible for their actions and the government has a program for them. He's just like most of the black liberal politicians and preachers. They all want to take my money to give it to some lazy black female with 4 kids by different daddies. Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 11:42:52 AM
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Whew! welcome to crosswalk. You are pretty straight up. (LOL). Duck fast tough, tomatoes will ber whizzin by your head, but some how, I think you can handle it. LOL
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First of all, I'm a black man and I'm new to Crosswalk. Obama not leading a "cult". He's just learned from his preacher how to shuck and jive and tell his audience what they want to hear. Like that they don't have to be responsible for their actions and the government has a program for them. He's just like most of the black liberal politicians and preachers. They all want to take my money to give it to some lazy black female with 4 kids by different daddies. Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 3:10:49 PM
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UncleRuckus, that's not discernment.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 3:22:16 PM
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First of all, I'm a black man and I'm new to Crosswalk. Obama not leading a "cult". He's just learned from his preacher how to shuck and jive and tell his audience what they want to hear.
Is that not politics? btw, if Obama were really like his pastor, I reallyi doubt all those Iowans would have voted for him. Obama is no Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. He represents a new generation of politics...
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Like that they don't have to be responsible for their actions and the government has a program for them. He's just like most of the black liberal politicians and preachers. They all want to take my money to give it to some lazy black female with 4 kids by different daddies.
Site these policies.
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Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
That's rich :) I wonder who are all these people who voted for him? After all, more Americans have voted for Barack Obama during this primary season than ANY other candidate.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 4:55:51 PM
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Is that not politics? btw, if Obama were really like his pastor, I reallyi doubt all those Iowans would have voted for him. Obama is no Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. He represents a new generation of politics...
So folks from Iowa cannot be fooled, If I remember correctly some of the folks at Jonestown that drank the Kool-aid were from the mid west. And now some are drinking the Kool-aid again.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 10:05:32 PM
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Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
That's rich :) I wonder who are all these people who voted for him? After all, more Americans have voted for Barack Obama during this primary season than ANY other candidate.
And that fact is the scariest part of this whole fiasco. A major portion of the population have proved themselves to be ignorant and uniformed. Most are just too lazy to find out the facts and then confront themselves with them. Shameful.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/15/2008 10:21:55 PM
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Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
That's rich :) I wonder who are all these people who voted for him? After all, more Americans have voted for Barack Obama during this primary season than ANY other candidate.
And that fact is the scariest part of this whole fiasco. A major portion of the population have proved themselves to be ignorant and uniformed. Most are just too lazy to find out the facts and then confront themselves with them. Shameful.
Looking back, I may have been too hard on Obama's followers earlier. After watching his idiot, maniac preacher rant and yelp anti-American and racist statements, and see his congregation worked up into a frenzy - standing and fist pumping and cheering this nonsense, I come to the conclusion that Obama was right in calling this fool his mentor. Where else did he learn to work crowds up into a frenzy by saying absolute nonsense?
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/16/2008 2:12:32 PM
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Yes, but how are people so gullible? They think BO is our hope. Only God gives hope, and the Bible says put hope in no man. I wonder how Hitler, had so many people brain washed. If the full armour of God was in place, the Helmet of Salvation, and the Belt of Truth, the sword of the Spirit, the whole armour, this would protect people from deception. People having a song with a God-like chant is so scary, not to mention people saying,singing, chanting, in the song they want a world without fear, They want his hope, raise our hands and sing Obama, (chant) they want world peace Yada, Yada, yada. If people would read the word, they would worship God, not a man, and hold signs up at his rallies saying " Hope". Humans have a brain, most do anyway, I am suprised people cannot see they are being fooled. what does it take?
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Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
That's rich :) I wonder who are all these people who voted for him? After all, more Americans have voted for Barack Obama during this primary season than ANY other candidate.
And that fact is the scariest part of this whole fiasco. A major portion of the population have proved themselves to be ignorant and uniformed. Most are just too lazy to find out the facts and then confront themselves with them. Shameful.
Looking back, I may have been too hard on Obama's followers earlier. After watching his idiot, maniac preacher rant and yelp anti-American and racist statements, and see his congregation worked up into a frenzy - standing and fist pumping and cheering this nonsense, I come to the conclusion that Obama was right in calling this fool his mentor. Where else did he learn to work crowds up into a frenzy by saying absolute nonsense?
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/19/2008 12:37:31 AM
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My solution for this, and so many other issues in this country, is for the Government, to get out of the way. http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=424
The farther the govt., sticks their nose in, be it medicine, transportation, or education, it always costs more. The thing is, most in DC know this, so they create-a-crisis, so the masses will clamour for their 'help'. Of course, it always comes with a price; Watch 'The Godfather' to help you understand such a strategy.
I actually gave BO a serious look, until I started reading of the usual, liberal, "targeted" tax cuts, and benefits, that require you to jump thru certain hoops, in order to qualify, as well as the class envy tactics, so typical of Democrats these days. As I posted in another thread, the count of poor people I've worked for is '0' for 30 years.
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Sorry, been busy.
Interesting...in other words, you think that the US health care system would be even better without the government - in other words, without government standards so that one state could approve a drug that has not been fully tested; states would not reap benefits by working together for a common cause, like, you know, curing cancer, by recieving fed grant money for doing so; research hospitals would not receive federal grant money for research of any kind...
On top of this, what I am awestruck by is how this site implies that there should be no government intervention. Unbelievable. ...
its_Go_time, I have asked you over and over again, what about those that do NOT have health insurance because their employers do not provide? There are 46 million Americans like this. What is your solution for this? Because that link you provided provides NO solution to these people.
Now, again, I have awesome health insurance - I thank God for that. However, I know that there are 46 million without health insurance and that, well...that really gets my goat...especially when their are children, elderly involved.
Now, if you don't care about these people...go ahead and live on your little island without taxes, without government and good luck.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/19/2008 12:42:14 AM
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Yes, but how are people so gullible? They think BO is our hope. Only God gives hope, and the Bible says put hope in no man. I wonder how Hitler, had so many people brain washed. If the full armour of God was in place, the Helmet of Salvation, and the Belt of Truth, the sword of the Spirit, the whole armour, this would protect people from deception. People having a song with a God-like chant is so scary, not to mention people saying,singing, chanting, in the song they want a world without fear, They want his hope, raise our hands and sing Obama, (chant) they want world peace Yada, Yada, yada. If people would read the word, they would worship God, not a man, and hold signs up at his rallies saying " Hope". Humans have a brain, most do anyway, I am suprised people cannot see they are being fooled. what does it take?
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Most of those people at his rallies probably have felony convictions and can't vote anyway. Another reason so many people are at his ralles is becasue so many of them probably don't have jobs to go to.
That's rich :) I wonder who are all these people who voted for him? After all, more Americans have voted for Barack Obama during this primary season than ANY other candidate.
And that fact is the scariest part of this whole fiasco. A major portion of the population have proved themselves to be ignorant and uniformed. Most are just too lazy to find out the facts and then confront themselves with them. Shameful.
Looking back, I may have been too hard on Obama's followers earlier. After watching his idiot, maniac preacher rant and yelp anti-American and racist statements, and see his congregation worked up into a frenzy - standing and fist pumping and cheering this nonsense, I come to the conclusion that Obama was right in calling this fool his mentor. Where else did he learn to work crowds up into a frenzy by saying absolute nonsense?
Wow. I am considering voting for Obama and I don't think of him that way at all, lightshineon. I look at his issues, not the internet blogs. Please consider that before you speak in such a simplified way.
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/19/2008 11:41:42 AM
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Yes, but how are people so gullible? They think BO is our hope. Only God gives hope, and the Bible says put hope in no man. I wonder how Hitler, had so many people brain washed. If the full armour of God was in place, the Helmet of Salvation, and the Belt of Truth, the sword of the Spirit, the whole armour, this would protect people from deception. People having a song with a God-like chant is so scary, not to mention people saying,singing, chanting, in the song they want a world without fear, They want his hope, raise our hands and sing Obama, (chant) they want world peace Yada, Yada, yada. If people would read the word, they would worship God, not a man, and hold signs up at his rallies saying " Hope". Humans have a brain, most do anyway, I am suprised people cannot see they are being fooled. what does it take?
As another poster said... I support Obama, but I don't see him as anything more than a politiican running for an office... and at the rally I was recently at, didn't see anyone behaving any differently than I have seen in other rallies for other politicians (One woman commented that she wanted to marry him- but I remember a lot of that when Bill Clinton ran!).
Holding up signs that say "Hope" or "Peace" or whatever at the rallies don't mean that Obama is the HOPE... it means hope, belief, etc. in our country.
I have always been an independent and have almost always voted republican, but this year I support Obama. Not because I see him as some super-human God. Not because I am blind and decepted... but because he seems sincere when he speaks because he tells you what he believes (and this doesn't waffle from year to year and speech to speech as some politicians do), he tells you when he disagrees with something, and he says what people *don't* want to hear- he doesn't sugarcoat the hard-to-swallow stuff.
I do not agree with him 100% on every subject, but I agree with him about the stuff most important to me right now. And I believe that when he speaks he is truly telling what he believes, rather than throwing out the party line.
If anyone has any questions about the rally I went to, feel free to ask away!
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 3/19/2008 12:34:48 PM
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Well, I guess we'll see once Utopia takes place in January, as Obama looks to be the chosen one of the 'give me' generation. 
But, with businesses already being taxed, and regulated right out of the country as it is, and Obama will be "requiring", as it says on his website, employers to provide health ins., that meets some sort of government requirment, I have to wonder, where will anyone work at, to pay for it?
Government as a supporter, and a encourager of the private sector- Fine
Government as a regulator, and oppressor of the private sector-Not Good
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 4/27/2008 12:37:50 AM
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Lizahana
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ORIGINAL: its_GO_time
Well, I guess we'll see once Utopia takes place in January, as Obama looks to be the chosen one of the 'give me' generation.
But, with businesses already being taxed, and regulated right out of the country as it is, and Obama will be "requiring", as it says on his website, employers to provide health ins., that meets some sort of government requirment, I have to wonder, where will anyone work at, to pay for it?
Government as a supporter, and a encourager of the private sector- Fine
Government as a regulator, and oppressor of the private sector-Not Good
Missed this one...
its_GO_time,
What is so bad about requiring an employer to provide health insurance?
Your aforementioned response STILL does not answer the problem of 40+ million Americans who are without health insurance - please tell me, us your solution.
And, your comment about the 'give me' generation? We live in the richest country in the world- yet people are not given transplants; are not given treatments to stop their life-ending diseases simply because they have no health insurance. YET, WE DO PROVIDE FREE EDUCATION UNTIL GRADE 12. Who cares if you may not have the insurance so that you can LIVE to be in grade 12 - but heck, we'll provide 'ya free public education. What, pray tell me, kind of sense does that make?
Eagerly awaiting since you have not ever precipitated a plausible solution to these 40+ million without health insurance ...
Peace and God bless,
< Message edited by Lizahana -- 4/27/2008 12:53:40 AM >
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 4/27/2008 3:33:27 PM
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"Free education"? Nonsense. Nothing is "free." Somewhere, somebody is writing checks to pay for what people percieve as "free."
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