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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 12:52:00 PM   
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Exactly my gripe her: she does what she's told to. Not that obedience is bad. It's that every aspect of her life seems to be controlled by someone else for the greatest commercial benefit.


Regardless, she's, as someone else mentioned, a better role model than Britney, Lindsey, Paris, or Mary Kate and Ashley. She seems to have a good head on her shoulders and good Christian parents guiding her in the right direction.

I brought it up because during her interview with Barbara Walters, she mentioned her FAITH as a deterant to what her peers have gotten caught up in. Unlike Britney, who succumbed to the influences of Madonna and the lack of love between her parents or a Jessica Simpson, who had a "Christian" upbringing, she seems to have a cool head and standards...with the watchful eye of her parents.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 1:59:48 PM   
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It's amazing how people complain that there's not enough good characters out there for kids and if there is, like let's say in this case Miley Cyrus, people complains how she's this and how she's that. Geesh...she's a teen pop favorite right now and in a few years, it'll be someone else. Most of us had our own favorites growing up and we all grew up. And in regards with merchandise....there is nothing new about it. I had my Tiger Beat magazines stuck all over my walls when I was in high school with Donny Osmond's pictures and Shaun Cassidy. I remember buying every magazines that had their pictures in it. My older cousins were into David Cassidy in the early 70's and they had lunchboxes, tshirts and such. It even goes back during the time when Elvis Presley was just a young guy. So I'm not sure what's with criticizing on Hannah Montana's merchandise out there. Plus it's the same thing with sports memorabilia and no one's complaining about it.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 2:32:27 PM   
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And if it wasn't Miley/Hannah - it would be someone else, and quite honestly, I'd rather have my dd's singing along to Miley Cyrus and Hannah then to some of the other music out there!

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 6:47:25 PM   
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Amen, Jodavi and Garsy!!!

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 7:33:45 PM   
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Honestly I think this is getting blown out of proportion. This girl is cool. Im not into all the Disney stuff, but I think that she is smart enough to know when shes in over her head. I heard her say her dad told her "Miley, Hollywood is a heartbreak waiting to happen" (or something along those lines) and I think that as she said "She has her family and her faith to fall back on and thats why shes not gonna end up like Britney/Jamie/Lindsay/etc". I think she has a great voice and being not much older than her I can't say I would be doing anything different. I think she can handle it and she is a cool Christian girl with a cool family. Shes been put up on a pedastale (sp?) and everyone is watching and waiting for her to fall. Thats alot of pressure but she seems to be able to handle it well. Like someone said before Miley Cyrus is the best there is for kids to look up to. When I was young it was Britany and she was worse than Miley then!
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/18/2008 10:43:10 PM   
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Well, of course. She's what? 15? She can't manage herself.

Another gripe of mine. She's only 15. Way too young to be getting into all this fame, if you ask me, no matter how grounded you are. You still miss out on a normal childhood. I'd have to say the youngest artist I'd ever support is Hayley Williams, who's 17, of Paramore. I believe Miley's career started when she was 14, right?

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Regardless, she's, as someone else mentioned, a better role model than Britney, Lindsey, Paris, or Mary Kate and Ashley. She seems to have a good head on her shoulders and good Christian parents guiding her in the right direction.

She's a better role model, yes, but in my opinion, people shouldn't look to some pop idol as a role model in the first place. I'd never look to pop culture for any role models, simply because pop culture is whatever is popular at the moment. Such temporary stardom is empty and it seems that scandals hit as soon as they can be invented.

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It's amazing how people complain that there's not enough good characters out there for kids and if there is, like let's say in this case Miley Cyrus, people complains how she's this and how she's that. Geesh...she's a teen pop favorite right now and in a few years, it'll be someone else. Most of us had our own favorites growing up and we all grew up. And in regards with merchandise....there is nothing new about it. I had my Tiger Beat magazines stuck all over my walls when I was in high school with Donny Osmond's pictures and Shaun Cassidy. I remember buying every magazines that had their pictures in it. My older cousins were into David Cassidy in the early 70's and they had lunchboxes, tshirts and such. It even goes back during the time when Elvis Presley was just a young guy. So I'm not sure what's with criticizing on Hannah Montana's merchandise out there. Plus it's the same thing with sports memorabilia and no one's complaining about it.

I can truthfuly say I can't identify with that in the least, and I'm rather glad I did. I didn't look up to or admire any pop sensation, didn't have the merchandise, nothing. I would also hold the sports memoribilia, like the pop equivalent, isn't necessarily harmful, I just see no point in it. My question is: why? I have no desire to be like most people, so why buy into the same untalented singers just because they have a pretty face, or the same sports stars just because of their batting average? I'm sure if I had exposure to such things as a child, I would have been a very different person today, and I happen to like the way I turned out a lot better. Granted, I'll never stand a chance at one of those remember the lyrics type shows, and I wouldn't know Derek Jeter from Ronald McDonald, but I see that as merely the sign of a culture headed for opulence. When a culture as a whole becomes, on a whole, entirely too focused on extraneous things and superficial issues, on temporal pleasures, it collapses. This is not some sort of "holier than thou" thing. Just look at the great empires of ancient times, from the Babylonians to the Romans. Babylon is the poster child for a culture corrupted by pleasure. The Romans stopped worrying about anything outside of Rome, so the the things outside of Rome simply came and conquered. This is not to say that somehow it's a good thing to go through constant hardships, but every culture needs some sort of goal or higher purpose to bond everyone together. For America in the post Civil War era, it was Reconstruction and Westward Expansion. For Cold War America, it was the arms race and self-preservation. A country united under something of permenance is one that has purpose. When America becomes as devoted as it is to the goings on of Hollywood instead of real issues, then I believe the whole will suffer. It does suffer. The lack of a firm foundation simply breeds relativism. Now, am I saying that Hannah Montana is somehow going to bring about the end of America? No, but she is taking part in the system that contributes to the general moral decline of America, which is a major factor in the survival of any nation.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 7:03:17 AM   
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I can truthfuly say I can't identify with that in the least, and I'm rather glad I did. I didn't look up to or admire any pop sensation, didn't have the merchandise, nothing. I would also hold the sports memoribilia, like the pop equivalent, isn't necessarily harmful, I just see no point in it. My question is: why? I have no desire to be like most people, so why buy into the same untalented singers just because they have a pretty face, or the same sports stars just because of their batting average? I'm sure if I had exposure to such things as a child, I would have been a very different person today, and I happen to like the way I turned out a lot better.

And that's what's work with you but not everybody had the same upbringing like you and most of us turned out just fine and loving the Lord today. I'm sorry but I don't believe that it's pop culture that's causing the major factor in the moral decline of America...it's the breakout of family-- but then that's just my opinion and that goes with another thread.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 8:32:38 AM   
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Well, what is one of the greatest factors in the breakup of the family in the first place? Corrupted social values come from somewhere, right? Pop culture is the embodiment of moral corruption.
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 10:01:45 AM   
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Well, what is one of the greatest factors in the breakup of the family in the first place? Corrupted social values come from somewhere, right? Pop culture is the embodiment of moral corruption.

Once again, I will disagree. The breakup of the family comes from one thing and one thing only....individuals who broke their commitments from the ones they vowed to be committed for but then again that's another thread. Corrupted social values happens because we live in a not perfect world. It might be pop culture to you but it could be something else for someone. We don't live in a perfect world but blaming the pop culture for corruptions or distractions is just an easy silly way for anyone to use an excuse instead of being held accountable.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 3:17:00 PM   
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I didn't say that pop culture necessarily is the cause of moral corrution. It is the embodiment of moral corruption, and indirectly sets an example for children everywhere. I'm not saying pop culture is solely to blame, but I am saying it's a problem.
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 3:35:28 PM   
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Miley Cyrus is an actress and a performer. "Hannah Montana" is a fictional character owned by Disney. All "Hannah Montana" products are licensed and/or owned by Disney. Miley is just the face.

Miley seems to be a well grounded young lady who fulfills her responsibilities, does her job, is close to her family and (thank heavens) isn't out there getting drugged up, drunk and driving. Sure, "Hannah Montana" is a silly, fluff show aimed at kids and tweens. It's no worse than "Saved by the Bell". I applaud Billy Ray for staying very visibly involved in his daughter's career and life.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 7:11:54 PM   
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Kudos, Laura.

Terath, the whole point is that she has a solid family and just like she honors her parents, maybe it will rub off on her fans.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 10:19:17 PM   
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Kudos, Laura.

Terath, the whole point is that she has a solid family and just like she honors her parents, maybe it will rub off on her fans.

Well then, you've missed my point. I know that she has a solid family and honors her parents. I was never questioning that. My point is that she is taking part in a morally corrupt industry, and whether she likes it or not, she is affected by it. It doesn't matter how much her father tries to keep her on track. First off, Disney is using her name nearly to the point of extortion when it comes to ticket sales for her concerts, which is just plain despicable. So even if she is not personally taking part in any wrong doing, just by being part of the industry her name is being used as a cash cow, nothing more, nothing less. As far as the execs are concerned, she is a product. Now, this is a bit of personal preference more than a fact, but I believe that all musical artists should make music as an expression of some sort of message, whatever it is. I can respect someone that's trying to put their views onto a global stage like that, even if I disagree with them. But what message is Miley sending? Well, living in the same house with fan, I can honestly say I haven't seen any positive or negative message in the music at all. It's meaningless. There's been a total of one song, which I believe she sang with her father, about her faith, period. Being a part of the pop music industry is probably why she hasn't been able to do more about it. Pop in general seems to convey either no or negative messages; I've never heard any pop song that actually speaks about, well, anything. Not to say they don't exist, but they by no means characterize the genre. Some genres are all about making point; Punk, for example, as it used to be. Sure, punk was all about anarachy and rebellion and whatnot, but the point is, they tried to put some sort of message out in a mostly intelligent fashion, and for that I can respect them. I can't say the same about pop. To get specific, Rage Against the Machine, a rapcore band, is probably one of the most leftist, most liberal bands I've ever heard of. But Zach de La Rocha really means what he says, and he says it with conviction. So I can respect him, if only for that.
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/19/2008 11:36:29 PM   
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But does everything HAVE to have a point? I mean really can there be something that's simply there for the fun of it?

And quite honestly - AGAIN - Miley's music is obviously NOT going to affect you at all BEACAUSE you don't want it to and you are simply not willing to hear it.

Did you by chance take a moment to read my husband blog entry about the affect Miley has had on our youngest dd? I linked to it in one of my previous posts. My youngest dd is 7 years old and has found Miley's music to fun, and like my husband stated - it has shown her that she can have a voice, to speak up and be herself - quite a message for a little girl with three older siblings where much of the time she has to yell to be heard. My dh also speaks of the affect seeing this in our dd has had on him.

Anyway - There's absolutely nothing wrong with having music that is simply just for fun. And maybe just maybe Miley's music does have a message, a point, but it's one you don't need to or want to hear, simply because you've already written off pop music as being meaningless.

I do agree that the ticket prices for her concerts and movies are atrocious! But isn't this a perfect example of the law of supply and demand? Of course exec's set those prices and Miley is likely under contract to oblige because of the TV show.

I suggest you just close your eyes and turn away - well not really because if it weren't Miley - it would be someone else and likely will be someone else a few years down the road.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 12:03:39 AM   
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But does everything HAVE to have a point? I mean really can there be something that's simply there for the fun of it?

And quite honestly - AGAIN - Miley's music is obviously NOT going to affect you at all BEACAUSE you don't want it to and you are simply not willing to hear it.

Did you by chance take a moment to read my husband blog entry about the affect Miley has had on our youngest dd? I linked to it in one of my previous posts. My youngest dd is 7 years old and has found Miley's music to fun, and like my husband stated - it has shown her that she can have a voice, to speak up and be herself - quite a message for a little girl with three older siblings where much of the time she has to yell to be heard. My dh also speaks of the affect seeing this in our dd has had on him.

Anyway - There's absolutely nothing wrong with having music that is simply just for fun. And maybe just maybe Miley's music does have a message, a point, but it's one you don't need to or want to hear, simply because you've already written off pop music as being meaningless.

I do agree that the ticket prices for her concerts and movies are atrocious! But isn't this a perfect example of the law of supply and demand? Of course exec's set those prices and Miley is likely under contract to oblige because of the TV show.

I suggest you just close your eyes and turn away - well not really because if it weren't Miley - it would be someone else and likely will be someone else a few years down the road.

Blessings,

Garsy

Well, if there's no point, then why should it exist? I do listen to some things "just for the fun of it," but music is a tool of influence, and should be used accordingly. Not that it has to be. For instance, Wolfmother doesn't sing about anything real or any sort of message, but I can enjoy and support it. But such times are rare. At least Wolfmother doesn't sing about themselves for 50% of their songs.

I have heard it. Not by choice, mind you, but my sister is a fan and my father is sadistic. So it play in the house often enough, both on TV and simply the music.

I don't doubt that this can happen, but I don't think this is a trend.

Really? There's a reason why I've written off, you know. I've heard the message. I found nothing of any importance. So I've tuned it out since. For the most part, of what I've heard, Miley's music is all about her "double life" as Hannah Montana, how much she "rocks," or something else of that ilk. Am I close?

Well, do you know how supply and demand should work? Supply should be relatively equal to the demand. Not so with a Hannah Montana concert. The supply is limited to such ridiculous amounts it's nearly humorous. Of course, there's no lack of supply of merchandise to sell. I just saw an ad today for a Hannah Montana easter basket. And you've hit on the point exactly: the contract. That's the problem: taking the contract in the first place. Giving up one's will and choice to the whims of the pop industry. Granted the only way to "make it" in music is to get a contract, but surely there are more independant labels than this that aren't so blatantly commercial.

Another vital point. I don't take issue with Miley personally. My problem is with the role Miley fills, i.e. "that person."
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 8:50:31 AM   
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Does she give any money to other organizations/charitiies?


Isn't what she gives between her and God? Im pretty sure theres a verse in the Bible that talks about stewardship and that its not something to be publicized or bragged about.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 8:53:45 AM   
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Does she give any money to other organizations/charitiies?


Isn't what she gives between her and God? Im pretty sure theres a verse in the Bible that talks about stewardship and that its not something to be publicized or bragged about.

Well, first of all, you don't have to proclaim it to the world for it be known. You can quietly give money and still have it known with no promotion of your own. The media for one, tracks the spending habits of nearly every celebrity. Second of all, I'm fairly certain that she doesn't have access to most of the money in the first place; she's just a kid, after all. Would anyone here give hundred of thousands or even millions to their children and say, "Just don't spend it all in one place."? I certainly hope not.
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 9:24:45 AM   
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I'm sorry everyone.

I should just learn to keep opinions to myself.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 9:47:30 AM   
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I'm sorry everyone.

I should just learn to keep opinions to myself.


No reason to be sorry.

Everyone has opinions and sometimes, obviously, they don't sync up with everyone elses opinions.

It's okay to express ones's opinion - and even disagree with someone elses opinion. When it becomes a problem is when folks claim their "opinion" is the only right way to think about any given topic and all other opinions are absolutely wrong.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 10:04:06 AM   
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Does she give any money to other organizations/charitiies?


Isn't what she gives between her and God? Im pretty sure theres a verse in the Bible that talks about stewardship and that its not something to be publicized or bragged about.

Well, first of all, you don't have to proclaim it to the world for it be known. You can quietly give money and still have it known with no promotion of your own. The media for one, tracks the spending habits of nearly every celebrity. Second of all, I'm fairly certain that she doesn't have access to most of the money in the first place; she's just a kid, after all. Would anyone here give hundred of thousands or even millions to their children and say, "Just don't spend it all in one place."? I certainly hope not.


Well I'm pretty sure she had to have a federal taxes filed for her and if she made any tax deductiable contributions they would be noted there - BUT really it's NONE of anyone's business. The problems with having what you give known publicly is that no matter what someone will twist it to make it seem like you are either not doing enough or that you are doing it just to get the attention.

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Really? There's a reason why I've written off, you know. I've heard the message. I found nothing of any importance. So I've tuned it out since. For the most part, of what I've heard, Miley's music is all about her "double life" as Hannah Montana, how much she "rocks," or something else of that ilk. Am I close?


Then you are not hearing what I'm hearing when my dd listens - I'm hearing about a girl that is trying to find her way - and having a good time doing it. I'm hearing that it's okay to make your voice heard and that life is simply too short to be too serious all the time. And like I've said before - I'd rather my kids listen to Hannah then some other stuff that's out there.

Try hearing it through your sister's ears for a change and maybe having an open mind and asking your sister what Miley's music says to her and why she likes it. Afterall she could be listening to the likes of Brittney Spears.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 11:08:25 AM   
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Does she give any money to other organizations/charitiies?


Isn't what she gives between her and God? Im pretty sure theres a verse in the Bible that talks about stewardship and that its not something to be publicized or bragged about.

Well, first of all, you don't have to proclaim it to the world for it be known. You can quietly give money and still have it known with no promotion of your own. The media for one, tracks the spending habits of nearly every celebrity. Second of all, I'm fairly certain that she doesn't have access to most of the money in the first place; she's just a kid, after all. Would anyone here give hundred of thousands or even millions to their children and say, "Just don't spend it all in one place."? I certainly hope not.


Well I'm pretty sure she had to have a federal taxes filed for her and if she made any tax deductiable contributions they would be noted there - BUT really it's NONE of anyone's business. The problems with having what you give known publicly is that no matter what someone will twist it to make it seem like you are either not doing enough or that you are doing it just to get the attention.
People's business or not, it gets found. Not that I look, but it's that simple fact that hires hundred if not thousands of people who work for tabloids, entertainment shows, etc.

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Really? There's a reason why I've written off, you know. I've heard the message. I found nothing of any importance. So I've tuned it out since. For the most part, of what I've heard, Miley's music is all about her "double life" as Hannah Montana, how much she "rocks," or something else of that ilk. Am I close?


Then you are not hearing what I'm hearing when my dd listens - I'm hearing about a girl that is trying to find her way - and having a good time doing it. I'm hearing that it's okay to make your voice heard and that life is simply too short to be too serious all the time. And like I've said before - I'd rather my kids listen to Hannah then some other stuff that's out there.

Try hearing it through your sister's ears for a change and maybe having an open mind and asking your sister what Miley's music says to her and why she likes it. Afterall she could be listening to the likes of Brittney Spears.

Blessings,

Garsy

Again with this "open mind" thing. I already told you: I used to have an open mind. I gave it a chance. Its chance is over. I've moved on. There's nothing "close-minded" about that. And as to why she likes it, I know:
1: It annoys me
2: She has nothing better to do

She watches Disney Channel 24/7, but claims she doesn't even like it. She knows I don't like anything as empty as Disney Channel is, but she continues to watch it, even more than things that actually interest her. She's not a particular fan of music in general, but listens to it as a casual thing. She's got more "Adventures in Oddysey" on her iPod than actual music. And she would never, ever listen to anything that's not at least close to Christian. She would not listen to Brittney Spears. My parents have her indoctrinated to the teeth that if it's not Christian, it can only be a tool of the world, and nothing more. I prefer to judge things based on the content than some blanket statement of "good" and "evil." Evil people can make fine music, and good people can make evil music. But this isn't a topic about Christian vs. secular music, so I won't go any further. The point is I see little message in such a role as "children's pop idol," so I disregard it.
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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 11:28:04 AM   
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Again with this "open mind" thing. I already told you: I used to have an open mind. I gave it a chance. Its chance is over. I've moved on. There's nothing "close-minded" about that. And as to why she likes it, I know:
1: It annoys me
2: She has nothing better to do


LOL! I must say you found your reason. Why do little sisters do 90% of what they do? To annoy the bejebbers out of older siblings. Why do parents allow this? Because it annoys the older siblings just like I'm pretty certain some of what you did at the very same age your sister is now annoyed the daylights out of your parents. And honestly its quite fun teaching older teens to realize that just because they are now "practically perfect in every way" (said with my tounge planted firmly in my cheek), that once upon a time not all that long ago that they too had quirks and favorites and whatnot too.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 11:39:26 AM   
jodavi


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'just wondering how old are you Terath?
Most of the posts here are coming from a parent with kids and young teens and like I mentioned before, some of us grew up around silly pop culture and just turned out to be fine parents who loves the Lord. Miley might annoy you right now but once you become a parent and starts raising your kids, there will be more things that you'll be annoyed with -- more than what your sister does --and when that happens, you will miss the joy of parenthood. Barney the dinasaur annoyed the heck out of me and my son just adored him when he was in pre-k but hearing him laugh and sing and dance surely gave joy to my heart. It was Barney then now he likes Miley and loves the Jonas brothers. It's okay not to like Miley but trying to make a stand over this...it's not worth it because this will be over in a year or so. So just relax and just have fun with your sister.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 4:35:05 PM   
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From all i've seen she seems to be christian but if she could only get her dad to turn his life to Christ.

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RE: Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) - 3/20/2008 5:46:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jeh972

From all i've seen she seems to be christian but if she could only get her dad to turn his life to Christ.

What makes you think her dad's not a Christian? From what I gather, she got her faith from her parents. Billy Ray starred in the PAX television show "Doc" and I believe has a relationship with Steven Curtis Chapman, who guest starred on the show.

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