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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 11:53:15 AM   
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Someone here in these forums has a signature quoting someone else as saying, "Even if someone walks on water, someone will find fault with him." It doesn't matter what you believe or what church you attend, someone will have something negative to say about it.

I agree!

I have a question, not trying to interfere with the topic at hand. I went to the dermatologist today for routine check of my skin. She took a biopsy of one of my moles on my back and said to come back in two weeks for the result. So my hubby says his opinion is that she just removed something so I would have to come back and she would get more money. Do you think doctor's sometimes do unnecessary procedures on their patients just to get extra money? I really don't know if I do or not, but I know I rather be safe than sorry regardless if she was doing this just to make more money.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 12:05:02 PM   
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There's no way to know for sure, of course, but I wouldn't mess around with questionable moles. My husband goes to the dermatologist every 6 months and the doctor removes something nearly every time. However, she tells him the biopsy results over the phone later. Maybe you could ask if you could just call in to get the results without having to show up for an office visit.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 4:43:13 PM   
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Better safe than sorry. My sister had a mole on her ankle all her life. finally she asked for it to be removed because it was bothering her. She discovered she has stage three cancer. Don't fool around with moles.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 5:00:29 PM   
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I do believe (getting back to Nicole) that study tools like the ones on Crosswalk.com, Bible.org, The Blue Letter Bible and Christianty.com are very helpful. I have become much more sound in my doctrine using the tools on these websites. John MacArthur's teaching has also been helpful.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 5:33:48 PM   
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Someone here in these forums has a signature quoting someone else as saying, "Even if someone walks on water, someone will find fault with him." It doesn't matter what you believe or what church you attend, someone will have something negative to say about it.

I agree!

I have a question, not trying to interfere with the topic at hand. I went to the dermatologist today for routine check of my skin. She took a biopsy of one of my moles on my back and said to come back in two weeks for the result. So my hubby says his opinion is that she just removed something so I would have to come back and she would get more money. Do you think doctor's sometimes do unnecessary procedures on their patients just to get extra money? I really don't know if I do or not, but I know I rather be safe than sorry regardless if she was doing this just to make more money.


I disagree. Doctors do follow-ups all the time for lab results, especially if there is chance of something like cancer I think they prefer to have an office appointment scheduled so they talk in person as opposed to giving you bad news over the phone.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 6:22:05 PM   
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I've always thought it was such a blessing that God gave us the Bible as a tool and didn't make us all have Ph.D's to have access to it or be able to understand it. I love that it was written for the common man.

Chelle, regarding doctors making money: Yes, I would say that can happen. I think it happens at the dentist's office, too. They might be in the business of helping people, but they're also in business. (I'm not cynical on all doctors and all procedures, let me just say that.)

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 6:23:43 PM   
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I wish my dentist was a little more "in business". Maybe then he would agree to give me novacaine for the small filling I need

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 4/30/2008 6:26:27 PM   
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I don't think that most doctors do extra procedures for the money. I do think that some of them are afraid of getting sued so they order more than necessary

However skin cancer is increasing so much that its best to get anything suspicious checked. You don't even have to be out in the sun a lot to get it.
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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/1/2008 2:18:16 AM   
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You can get skin cancer in places the sun never sees.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/1/2008 2:30:53 AM   
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I'd get that check out too, Chelle. It's not worth messing around with. Think of how much more expensive undetected cancer is than an office visit.

Jeannie, I'm with you on studying God's Word. We have everything we need right there and centuries of godly men and women who have studied it as well and can give great commentary on it. They shouldn't be discounted just because there are some out there misusing Scripture for their own purposes. But they should be tested though. As Martin Luther said,

"Christ is the Master; the Scriptures are only the servant. The true way to test all the Books is to see whether they work the will of Christ or not. No Book which does not preach Christ can be apostolic, though Peter or Paul were its author. And no Book which does preach Christ can fail to be apostolic, although Judas, Ananias, Pilate, or Herod were its author."

Granted I think he was talking more specifically about the books of the Bible and their inclusion in the canon, but I think it can be applied to any book by a Christian. If it doesn't preach Christ (and correctly) then it's rubbish...no matter who wrote it.




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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/2/2008 1:48:53 AM   
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Granted I think he was talking more specifically about the books of the Bible and their inclusion in the canon, but I think it can be applied to any book by a Christian. If it doesn't preach Christ (and correctly) then it's rubbish...no matter who wrote it.



Well said, Beth!
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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/2/2008 11:14:29 AM   
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You can get skin cancer in places the sun never sees.


So true Maggie. I would definately recommend that anyone have anything they are suspicious of checked out.

Cancer is VERY prevalent in my family, in many different forms...so I try to be aware of anything suspicious and ask my dr about it. Have a spot on my hand right now that I'm treating with a steriod cream the dr. wanted me to try first to see if it cleared up but she said if that didn't help it any then the other thing she'd suspect from the symptoms would be skin cancer so I'm supposed to go back in a couple of weeks if it doesn't improve with this treatment.

Sometimes they just go ahead remove something small and check first then move to other treatments if necessary...but I'm thinking maybe she didn't go that route because it's directly on top of one of those veins that bulge out in the back of my hand...cause I'm guessing that even though it would still be really minor that it would be a little trickier from the dr.'s perspective than removal of some spots would be.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/3/2008 2:57:09 PM   
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I wish my dentist was a little more "in business". Maybe then he would agree to give me novacaine for the small filling I need


If you're asking to have it (are you? I don't want to assume...) I sure wish the dentist would give it to you! Seems like a calm, pain-free patient would be the best kind of dental patient.
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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/3/2008 7:27:41 PM   
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I wish my dentist was a little more "in business". Maybe then he would agree to give me novacaine for the small filling I need


If you're asking to have it (are you? I don't want to assume...) I sure wish the dentist would give it to you! Seems like a calm, pain-free patient would be the best kind of dental patient.


Oh, I trusted him and didn't end up needing it for the small one, I was rather surprised. It was the big deep one that took 10 shots, so he definitely will give it if needed.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 5:18:23 AM   
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I wish my dentist was a little more "in business". Maybe then he would agree to give me novacaine for the small filling I need


If you're asking to have it (are you? I don't want to assume...) I sure wish the dentist would give it to you! Seems like a calm, pain-free patient would be the best kind of dental patient.


Oh, I trusted him and didn't end up needing it for the small one, I was rather surprised. It was the big deep one that took 10 shots, so he definitely will give it if needed.


10?!? Couldn't you have just had one of those big shots in the corner of your mouth the numbes half of your mouth at once?

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 7:37:06 AM   
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I've been reading some great articles about Gnosticism today. I started by listening to White Horse Inn last week and they mentioned Oprah and others. Then today I was listening to the last couple of episodes of Revive Our Hearts and she was discussing the internet course that she's doing. That led me to the White Horse Inn website and there are articles on there that are very eye-opening. Here are the links.

The New Gnosticism

Is the New Testement Reliable?

There are more but these are the ones I really found intersting of what I've found so far.

What was interesting was the way we've let gnosticism leach into the churches. The idea of a "personal relationship with Christ" or "having Christ in our hearts" harkens back to that old heresy. Gnostics try to get people to look within themselves, do for themselves, and pretty much ignore the rest of the world. A few of those ideas seeped into the church as well. We need to look very closely at what we mean by that. Many churches that don't place importance on the sacrements (i.e. Baptism and Communion) are more closely following gnostic flavors than Christian doctrine. (This is an over simplification at best. You'll need to read the articles yourselves before you decide if I've offended you. ) The articles are definitely fodder for some deep theological thought. For more articles check out White Horse Inn.

As for dentists, just drug me up real good and you can do just about anything you want to me.

Oh, well, almost time to head home. No meetings today! Whoohoo!




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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:33:49 AM   
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Oh how I wish the dentist could numb me...for some reason I'm what they refer to as 'resistant' I've had as many as 12 shots before and the only numbness that ever occurred was to my eye socket! My mouth doesn"t numb at all not even a tingle.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 7:07:51 PM   
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OK, jumping in here because I haven't been keeping up very well lately.

I had a thought while at church last night about when people are sick.

Dh started to feel sick (dizzy) during the service last night and during the 'say hello to your nearest neighbour' part of the service I mentioned to one of the deacons that dh wasn't well. His comment was, 'If you're not well, go home,' (not in a mean way, more of a 'look after yourself') kind of thing, but it really struck me.

Do churches no longer pray for their sick or do they send them home to get better?

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:16:19 PM   
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Kylie- if that was my church they would of prayed for him then and there

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:20:27 PM   
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Once in the middle of a sermon, an elderly man became very ill. We called an ambulance, and one of the elders went with the wife (also elderly) in the ambulance. The pastor led in prayer while we waited.

We also have a specific part in our service where we pray for those who are ill or grieving and for any family members in Iraq/Afghanistan.
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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:28:59 PM   
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I think it depends on severity to some people-- even in church. Maybe if you have a cold they'd think about praying for you; if you have cancer they most definitely will pray for you...if that makes sense.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:38:30 PM   
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Our church prays for the sick a lot. If one of our members is sick or is going in for surgery or treatment, if they feel comfortable with it, we will all gather around them and pray for them.


Cell Phones going off in church: A minor annoyance, or a big deal? Has it ever happened at your church? Did the pastor ignore it or not?

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 9:55:39 PM   
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I wish my dentist was a little more "in business". Maybe then he would agree to give me novacaine for the small filling I need


If you're asking to have it (are you? I don't want to assume...) I sure wish the dentist would give it to you! Seems like a calm, pain-free patient would be the best kind of dental patient.


Oh, I trusted him and didn't end up needing it for the small one, I was rather surprised. It was the big deep one that took 10 shots, so he definitely will give it if needed.


10?!? Couldn't you have just had one of those big shots in the corner of your mouth the numbes half of your mouth at once?


I would say that was the first shot he did It wasn't enough, I ended up crying(and the dentist does not induce panic or fear for me), shaking, and like I was freezing cold. Shock? or just a reaction to the meds?

Lisa, I am resistant to the meds as well, which I think is why it takes so much time, and so many shots for me to get numb enough. I'm really not that big of a weanie, I swear.




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Do churches no longer pray for their sick or do they send them home to get better?


Our church prays for the sick, and we do believe in the laying on of hands so that is what is most often done.

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Cell Phones going off in church: A minor annoyance, or a big deal? Has it ever happened at your church? Did the pastor ignore it or not?



I think it depends on his mood. Sometimes he gives a little "that better be God calling" sort of comment, and other times he just ignores it. I think it happens about once a month, we also have a reminder on the projection screen before service to "kindly silence your cell phones and pagers".

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 10:05:10 PM   
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Cell Phones going off in church: A minor annoyance, or a big deal? Has it ever happened at your church? Did the pastor ignore it or not?


My old pastor's phone went off while he was preaching. :) He's the pastor of Bellvue now (he took Adrian Rogers' place), but when he was here and it went off he just answered it... in the midst of the sermon for everyone to hear.

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RE: Kicka, part 3 - 5/4/2008 10:10:31 PM   
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Cell Phones going off in church: A minor annoyance, or a big deal? Has it ever happened at your church? Did the pastor ignore it or not?


My old pastor's phone went off while he was preaching. :) He's the pastor of Bellvue now (he took Adrian Rogers' place), but when he was here and it went off he just answered it... in the midst of the sermon for everyone to hear.


I know who that is. We used to watch your church on Sunday mornings while we were getting ready for Sunday School. Cool!

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