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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 4/24/2008 1:41:32 AM
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magellanic
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A marriage to me (believer's view) is the union of Spirit, Mind and Flesh by God. These 3 elements are equally important in a valid marriage relationship. When a person says the marriage vows at the altar, he/she agrees to keep this union until the day they go home to be with our Lord (or when Christ returns). However, in an unconsummated marriage, there is no "union of the flesh", thus there is no 'union' to be kept. God allow sex only in a marriage relationship, the only act not permissible in any other relationships. After all there is an entire Book (Song of Songs) in the Bible dedicated to talk about this. Thus, God views consummation as a vital part of a marriage union.
Paul also said in 1 Cor 7:28 that "... and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned ..." In an unconsummated marriage, the people involved are, technically, virgins. In other words, I would tend to believe that couples who did not have a sexual union, are not, in fact, in a marriage covenant.
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 4/24/2008 7:22:53 AM
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lastblast
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Were Adam and Eve joined as "one flesh" before or after they had relations with each other?
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 4/24/2008 11:11:37 AM
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crh737
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BTDT~ I was married to a man for 6 yrs who would not be with me, so I had questioned the same thing.
Joseph was married to Mary and did not "know" her until after Jesus was born. Therefore the marriage is binding.
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 5/2/2008 1:50:08 AM
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magellanic
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Yes, Adam and Eve were joined together in one soul and mind but not "one flesh" The English translation uses futuristic words "... they will become one flesh ..." (Gen 2;24, NIV), in other words, they are not "one flesh" when they first come together. In Mat 1:25: "But [Joseph] had no union with her until ..." Thus, there was no union even they were both legally married. I still tend to believe that there is a difference between a divorce and an annualment.
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 5/2/2008 10:21:11 AM
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TheLindyM
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I would agree with lostsomuch. Marriage is a covenant between the couple and God and not to be broken. Becoming one flesh, I believe means to become one in Christ so it's not just a physical act but a spiritual, mental, emotional act.
The best thing to do in this and any situation is to pray with an open bible and seek God for the answer. All questions can be found in the scriptures. God has taken situations like this and made great marriages out of them. But it has to be God and a person has to be willing to give it totally to God to work out.
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 5/2/2008 4:11:01 PM
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lastblast
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quote:
ORIGINAL: magellanic
Yes, Adam and Eve were joined together in one soul and mind but not "one flesh" The English translation uses futuristic words "... they will become one flesh ..." (Gen 2;24, NIV), in other words, they are not "one flesh" when they first come together. In Mat 1:25: "But [Joseph] had no union with her until ..." Thus, there was no union even they were both legally married. I still tend to believe that there is a difference between a divorce and an annualment.
I'm not quite understanding you. When Eve was brought to Adam, he declared, "This is NOW bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh................" This was BEFORE they came together.
The "futuristic" was speaking of later marriages. As for Mary and Joseph, Joseph was first betrothed to Mary, then after the Angel spoke to him, he married Mary. They were husband and wife---joined by the Lord--- BEFORE they came together physically.
I too agree with you that divorce and annulment are two different things. Annulment means that God never joined the union (someone was divorced and married another and they were not free to marry again, someone married a divorced person who too was not free to marry, two homosexuals join in marriage, two individuals join in marriage and their relationship is incestuous). I think many "marriages" today fall in the category of unions that were NOT joined by God.........maybe man, but not God.
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RE: Is this a marriage in God's eyes? - 5/3/2008 1:36:34 PM
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broken2live4him
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Doh!... if a couple gets married, they are married. if they get an annulment, an anulment is like saying the marriage didn't happen, but that fact is the marriage happened... i would say this decision has to be led by the Lord and not just based on thoughts or opinions. in the end it matters what God says.
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