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The Truth About Bass Players - 3/16/2008 8:56:23 PM
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Stratplayer
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Here is the REAL reason that some of our friends play bass.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/16/2008 10:25:17 PM
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Terath
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Heh heh. I've got some friends that play bass, and just because you can't hear them 90% of the time doesn't mean they're not important! ;p
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/17/2008 6:40:12 PM
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I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/18/2008 11:28:35 AM
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Terath
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I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
Well, If you turn turn down the bass, you'll miss out on a lot more than just one guitar. You'll lose out on voice, lower notes of guitar, and the bass, or with my music, double bass drum beats. Most music can do without but is still improved by bass guitarists.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/19/2008 11:20:49 AM
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Here is two more words for you "strat boy" (lol) John Patitucci
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wLkPT534FoY
Let's see what else you geetar players got to say.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/19/2008 7:12:40 PM
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mapachito13
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Terath
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
Well, If you turn turn down the bass, you'll miss out on a lot more than just one guitar. You'll lose out on voice, lower notes of guitar, and the bass, or with my music, double bass drum beats.
You know what I meant. Sorry I wasn't technically correct.
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Most music can do without but is still improved by bass guitarists.
Most music uses a bass in it. If they could "do without it" they would. But it sounds way better with it.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/19/2008 10:04:11 PM
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Terath
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ORIGINAL: Terath
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
Well, If you turn turn down the bass, you'll miss out on a lot more than just one guitar. You'll lose out on voice, lower notes of guitar, and the bass, or with my music, double bass drum beats.
You know what I meant. Sorry I wasn't technically correct.
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Most music can do without but is still improved by bass guitarists.
Most music uses a bass in it. If they could "do without it" they would. But it sounds way better with it.
Well, either what you meant was wrong, or what you meant was difficult to understand. If you meant remove all bass frequencies, well, you'd kill the music right there. However, we're not talking about bass frequencies, we're talking about bass guitarists. If you cut the bass guitarist from a production track, then the music might miss out a bit, but it won't kill it. Also, there are bands that simply don't have bass guitarists in the first place.
Not necessarily. Most music has a bass because it enhances the music, but it is by no means a necessary instrument, at least in the rock/metal arena. I wouldn't be able to comment on much else, besides punk maybe. But there are plenty of good bands that don't have bass players. Bass players are a background undercurrent that will highlight and contrast the other elements of the song, so they are generally a good thing. However, as I said, bass players are by no means necessary. You have to have a vocalist, you have to have a lead guitarist, and you have have drums, again, at least in rock/metal/punk, but you don't have to have bass guitarists. That's just the point I was trying to make.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/20/2008 4:46:12 PM
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mapachito13
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Terath
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
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ORIGINAL: Terath
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
Well, If you turn turn down the bass, you'll miss out on a lot more than just one guitar. You'll lose out on voice, lower notes of guitar, and the bass, or with my music, double bass drum beats.
You know what I meant. Sorry I wasn't technically correct.
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Most music can do without but is still improved by bass guitarists.
Most music uses a bass in it. If they could "do without it" they would. But it sounds way better with it.
Well, either what you meant was wrong, or what you meant was difficult to understand. If you meant remove all bass frequencies, well, you'd kill the music right there. However, we're not talking about bass frequencies, we're talking about bass guitarists. If you cut the bass guitarist from a production track, then the music might miss out a bit, but it won't kill it. Also, there are bands that simply don't have bass guitarists in the first place.
Not necessarily. Most music has a bass because it enhances the music, but it is by no means a necessary instrument, at least in the rock/metal arena. I wouldn't be able to comment on much else, besides punk maybe. But there are plenty of good bands that don't have bass players. Bass players are a background undercurrent that will highlight and contrast the other elements of the song, so they are generally a good thing. However, as I said, bass players are by no means necessary. You have to have a vocalist, you have to have a lead guitarist, and you have have drums, again, at least in rock/metal/punk, but you don't have to have bass guitarists. That's just the point I was trying to make.
Name 100 groups that don't have a bass player especially in the rock and punk genres. I am sure Dee Dee Ramone, Geddy Lee, Adam Clayton, Paul Simonon (The Clash) and a host of other bass players would deem themselves as "unnecessary".
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 9:03:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: Terath
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ORIGINAL: mapachito13
I want all you people who think bass players are non-important to listen to all your CD's from now on with the bass control turned to 0. Now how do you enjoy your favorite songs?
Bass players are as necessary as peanut butter in a PB&J.
Well, If you turn turn down the bass, you'll miss out on a lot more than just one guitar. You'll lose out on voice, lower notes of guitar, and the bass, or with my music, double bass drum beats.
You know what I meant. Sorry I wasn't technically correct.
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Most music can do without but is still improved by bass guitarists.
Most music uses a bass in it. If they could "do without it" they would. But it sounds way better with it.
Well, either what you meant was wrong, or what you meant was difficult to understand. If you meant remove all bass frequencies, well, you'd kill the music right there. However, we're not talking about bass frequencies, we're talking about bass guitarists. If you cut the bass guitarist from a production track, then the music might miss out a bit, but it won't kill it. Also, there are bands that simply don't have bass guitarists in the first place.
Not necessarily. Most music has a bass because it enhances the music, but it is by no means a necessary instrument, at least in the rock/metal arena. I wouldn't be able to comment on much else, besides punk maybe. But there are plenty of good bands that don't have bass players. Bass players are a background undercurrent that will highlight and contrast the other elements of the song, so they are generally a good thing. However, as I said, bass players are by no means necessary. You have to have a vocalist, you have to have a lead guitarist, and you have have drums, again, at least in rock/metal/punk, but you don't have to have bass guitarists. That's just the point I was trying to make.
Actually junior, Iee mean Terath, it is actually guitarist who's jobs are in jeopardy. Check out Stanley Clarke, Marcus Miller and Victor Wooten, I don't care if it is your style of music, throw some distortion in and you've got Metal!!!! So just watch and be amazed, and when you pick your jaw up off the floor, please don't respond with any kind of degrading, you "are the metal expert" comments... thanx
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 11:09:09 AM
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Terath
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I give up. You know what? I'm tired of these petty arguments, low-blow insults(Thank you, freakofnature, my ever present foil), and impossible challenges(try naming a hundred bands that do have bassists off the top of your head, mapachito13). I had a full retort read for the both of you, but my internet cut out in the middle and I do not wish to spend the time or energy to redo it. So instead, I take my leave of this topic. Freakofnature, I do wish the best to you, despite the fact that you have no tact(junior?) and cannot spell the letter 'I'. But from now on, I plan to ignore you, no matter how stupid/uninformed/hateful/etc. your comments are, so long as they are directed at me. If you attack someone else in this way, however, I will not hesitate to defend them as needed. If you wish to continue trolling in a simple argument over some minor points, then I leave you to that. No one likes personal attacks, least of all myself, so please refrain if possible. Unless it's something I haven't realized (such as the possibility that mapachito is a bass player and I insinuated that he is in any way worthless; he is not), I have done my best to keep my comments related to the argument and nothing less. I would expect the same of you, if you are so much more mature than I am. It's called "basic forum etiquette." And before you celebrate over my "defeat," it is nothing of the sort. I simply don't have the time to respond to such a ridiculous thing as your post; I have scholarship applications I need to work on.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 11:48:40 AM
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Alright Terath my friend. Sorry to see you go in this discussion. No low blow comments intended, all in jest. You are but 17 years old if I recall, and that makes you alot younger than me, so junior applies, in the same way any man of age would address a younger man coming of age while trying to direct his attention, again all in jest. As far as the "mispelled" I, it is an accepted and recognized comic referral to "change direction of a comment" nuttin personal my friend. Also, it seems that you are pretty well single minded on heavy metal, cool. I get that...I used to be the same way at 14,15,16, 17 y/o. Metalica had just come off of the success of "...And Justice for All" and was putting out "The Black Album." I had to know everything about it and metal and be the expert! I lived in a small midwestern town and to try and listen to R&B or Jazz or Blues or anything other than metal was sacreligious. I have since grown up and apart from that philosophy in music and now enjoy a wide range of musical talent and art. I merely intended to open you up a little bit to some other forms of very talented individuals especially as it relates to Bass players as I am one as well. I certainly don't think my arguments for Bass Players not being obsolete has been stupid or hatefull, least of all uninformed.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 11:50:02 AM
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freakofnature
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P.S. Terath: Did you watch Stanley Clarke rip it up? What did you think?
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 11:54:39 AM
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Actually, bass is one of the most fundatemntal aspects of sound. Everybody knows and can relate to bass, but have no clue within the context of musical instruements what a bass is. Even if there is no bass guitar present, the functionality of bass is eveindent when you look at the fact that chords sound fuller and more complete with a low bass note added eventhough it is not really the same as what you'd get from a real bass or even (dare I say) keybaord bass. Many of our beloved guitar riffs are built on the the bass strings and there'es some good music to be had when you have guitar and bass doubling up on some parts of a song.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 12:20:21 PM
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Wow, all of this venom from a cartoon. I may be wrong, but when the thread was started the OP had his tongue firmly in cheek. More proof that with the right combination you can argue anything. 
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 1:35:36 PM
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Here is two more words for you "strat boy" (lol) John Patitucci
Or -
Stanley Clarke
Bob Babbit
James Jamerson
Klaus Voorman
Mel Schacker
Jay Truax
Abraham Laboriel
< Message edited by DaveW -- 3/21/2008 1:47:06 PM >
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 1:45:41 PM
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Name 100 groups that don't have a bass player especially in the rock and punk genres. I am sure Dee Dee Ramone, Geddy Lee, Adam Clayton, Paul Simonon (The Clash) and a host of other bass players would deem themselves as "unnecessary". I can only think of one: the Doors, and that was only because they had an inhuman keyboard player that played a bass line on a special keyboard with his left hand while his right did the stuff most key players did with both hands....
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 2:14:26 PM
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Here is two more words for you "strat boy" (lol) John Patitucci
Or -
Stanley Clarke
Bob Babbit
James Jamerson
Klaus Voorman
Mel Schacker
Jay Truax
Abraham Laboriel
Dude! How could you? You forgot
MARCUS MILLER! 
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That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; (Phil. 2:14-15)
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 2:41:10 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Stratplayer
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ORIGINAL: DaveW
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature
Here is two more words for you "strat boy" (lol) John Patitucci
Or -
Stanley Clarke
Bob Babbit
James Jamerson
Klaus Voorman
Mel Schacker
Jay Truax
Abraham Laboriel
Dude! How could you? You forgot
MARCUS MILLER!
Actually, I have him covered up there in my link to Stanley Clark/youtube... Check out the three masters try to outdo each other. Stanley Clarke, Victor Wooten and MARCUS MILLER!!!!! Awesome!
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 3:05:35 PM
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uncabeeil
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Bernard Harris. This video doesn't do him justice.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/21/2008 4:33:31 PM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the multi-instrumentalist god of the bass, JOHN PAUL JONES! Above all other bass players (including Victor Wooten), I would choose to spend a year studying with him because I also play keyboards, mandolin, and guitar, and would love to learn from him on all those instruments as well.
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RE: The Truth About Bass Players - 3/23/2008 3:21:52 PM
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Stratplayer
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While I enjoy my share of "bass shredders", it all means nothing if you can't groove. A lot of great bassists go unnoticed because they do their job so well that they are taken for granted. Nobody pays them any attnetion until they don't show up for a gig.
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