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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/27/2008 4:22:45 PM   
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I do hope they don't try and force a romance between the Dr. and Catherine Tate. Just the thought makes me shudder.
I don't think Donna would go for that


That's one good thing about Donna's character as it has been created. She's rather turned off (physically/romantically) by him being an alien (not surprising given how she was introduced to the fact that aliens exist), and apparently she thinks he's "scrawny."

And it's a good thing, because in the new show we've had semi-requited feelings (Rose), unrequited feelings (Martha), and the ex-companion who had semi-requited feelings (Sarah Jane). And...errr....Jack, with his out-of-control phonemes, which fortunately are mostly referred to in subtext and inuendo on Doctor Who (unlike Torchwood). And Mme De Pompador and that teacher lady who fell in love with The Doctor.

I've only seen Tate's sketch show once, but she reminded me of Tracy Ulmman, who had a sketch show in the 80's that, among other things, birthed The Simpsons. And currently has a show on Showtime. Similar thing with playing lots of different characters (my current favorite from Tracy is an Indian pharmacist who breaks into Bollywood numbers while giving advice to her customers).

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/27/2008 9:26:03 PM   
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And it's a good thing, because in the new show we've had semi-requited feelings (Rose), unrequited feelings (Martha), and the ex-companion who had semi-requited feelings (Sarah Jane). And...errr....Jack, with his out-of-control phonemes, which fortunately are mostly referred to in subtext and inuendo on Doctor Who (unlike Torchwood). And Mme De Pompador and that teacher lady who fell in love with The Doctor.



I think you mean "pheronomes"--hormones that animals emit to attract the opposite sex. Phonemes are units of language, like syllables. (Sorry. It's the English major in me. )

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/28/2008 11:43:45 AM   
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I think you mean "pheronomes"--hormones that animals emit to attract the opposite sex. Phonemes are units of language, like syllables. (Sorry. It's the English major in me. )


You are correct. I typed it into Google search to attempt to find the correct spelling and didn't notice the context.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/28/2008 11:54:14 AM   
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When I first found out that Donna was going to be his companion I was very disappointed, but we are finding that we actually like her. Her bossy attitude actually keeps him more in check and the comical moments have increased. He seems to be releasing his goofy side more. I love that she keeps calling him "Sunshine" and "Space Boy" to keep him from getting too close to her. She is the only companion that takes it seriously that he IS an alien. It's refreshing that he's traveling with a friend, not a crush. I especially like that because the Rose thing left me sad.

Martha never really helped the Doctor be happy after losing Rose. She kept him company and was very helpful, but he wasn't the same without Rose. The old happier Doctor is being drawn back out, in my opinion, by the Donna character. She seems to be able to level him out. Does that make sense? Anyway...we thought we'd hate her, but we love her.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/29/2008 6:06:26 PM   
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I think you mean "pheronomes"


pheromones, you've got the "m" and "n" backwards. I think pherognomes are the little creatures that carry off single socks out of the dryer. (pherein being Greek for "to carry")

Back on topic, I've heard rumors that Neil Gaiman is being approached to write for Doctor Who in 2010. That's a ways off, but he's a good author.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/29/2008 9:46:27 PM   
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I think you mean "pheronomes"

pheromones, you've got the "m" and "n" backwards.



Well spotted there, figmentPez!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/30/2008 10:14:17 AM   
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I think pherognomes are the little creatures that carry off single socks out of the dryer. (pherein being Greek for "to carry")




I really like Neil Gaiman - didn't he write an episode for Dr. Who in the past? Or was it another TV show?

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/31/2008 5:08:47 AM   
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Well, they aired "Poisoned Earth Part 2" last night, and I enjoyed it. The best laugh out loud moment was "Are you my mummy?", after that it was the Doctor's reveal that he'd known about Martha all along. I also enjoyed Donna's role. She wasn't the perfect heroine, in that she was plenty scared and tempted to stay where it was safe, but she still stumbled along to help, not really understanding what she was doing.

Only problem was that I couldn't understand half the bloomin' episode! dH and I were constantly asking each other "What did they just say?" Everyone was speaking pretty fast, and with the accents, we were always rewinding or turning up the volume. We should just keep closed captioning on for all British shows.
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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/31/2008 12:40:13 PM   
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Even I sometimes have trouble with that. Back when they introduced Donna this season, and they were having that conversation about mates, I had to go back and rewind it because I was totally confused. Finally I understood that he was saying "I just want a mate" in the British masculine sense of "friend." And there are still times when I can't understand my hubby.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 5/31/2008 8:45:26 PM   
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I think pherognomes are the little creatures that carry off single socks out of the dryer. (pherein being Greek for "to carry")




I really like Neil Gaiman - didn't he write an episode for Dr. Who in the past? Or was it another TV show?


"Neverwhere" is a miniseries based on his book of the same name.

You might be confusing Gaiman with Douglas Adams (quote from wikipedia: In addition to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams wrote or co-wrote three stories of the science fiction television series Doctor Who and served as Script Editor during the seventeenth season)

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/1/2008 10:50:02 AM   
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The best laugh out loud moment was "Are you my mummy?"
Yep, I liked that too

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Everyone was speaking pretty fast, and with the accents,
There was an episode of 'The Cosby Show' once where one of the girls had a friend who talked really, really fast ~ it was so funny!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/1/2008 4:10:44 PM   
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What did you think of Silence in the Library?

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/1/2008 4:56:35 PM   
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"Neverwhere" is a miniseries based on his book of the same name.




I love that book

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/2/2008 7:54:07 AM   
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I must say the show has improved. I'm glad I came back this season. After finishing this episode, I think I agree that I like non-romanatic Donna. It's kind of nice to see them just getting on with destroying aliens without his companion hanging off his every word. I was afraid they would go in that direction when they introduced her this season, since she basically didn't have a life. I'm glad she's a little more rounded and independent, instead. I always thought it was a mistake to have Martha fawning over him last season. It just felt a little tacky since he had just lost Rose, so I think the producers learned from their mistake.

It's also nice to see a companion who's a little more equal to the Dr. From the bits and bobs I've seen of the show from the past 30 years, it looked the companion was always a young, vulnerable female. The Dr. was always the all-wise alien. It's kind of nice to see a woman who has the gumption to stand up to him.

That reminds me. I've been meaning to ask this, since I'm not in the UK anymore. Why didn't Freeman want to return this season? Or did she have a choice? Did the producers decide not to bring her character back?

The only thing I kind of didn't like about Friday's episode was the ending. I'm sure this is probably just my American gung-ho mentality, but I would have just blown the aliens out of the sky and gone home to dinner. I mean, for Pete's sake, the Sontarans had up to that point shown absolutely no remorse about wanting to destroy the human race. I wouldn't have thrown my life away for them.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/2/2008 10:00:44 AM   
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The only thing I kind of didn't like about Friday's episode was the ending. I'm sure this is probably just my American gung-ho mentality, but I would have just blown the aliens out of the sky and gone home to dinner. I mean, for Pete's sake, the Sontarans had up to that point shown absolutely no remorse about wanting to destroy the human race. I wouldn't have thrown my life away for them.


yes...but he IS the doctor after all and is supposed to care about everyone and preserve life and all that.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/2/2008 10:31:49 AM   
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agapetos

What did you think of Silence in the Library?

"Pretty boy"

Oh that was so funny! I cried at the end, though I suspected that may happen given comments in other episodes ~ even though it's a two-parter.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/2/2008 7:32:47 PM   
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AHEM!!

Just a gentle reminder that this thread is JUST about things Doctor Who - OK???




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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/3/2008 10:24:51 AM   
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Who?

oh, you mean the doctor...well...ummm...

still don't like donna , but I love her gramps!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/4/2008 8:34:36 PM   
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We need to keep this on topic, which is Dr Who. If you'd like to discuss other shows or other roles actors in the series have played please start another thread. Thank you!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/4/2008 10:46:28 PM   
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I thoroughly enjoyed Silence in the Library and am having a hard time waiting for the second part!

I am looking forward to next series when Steven Moffatt begins writing as head...I absolutely loved Blink last series and can't wait to see what else he has in him.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/5/2008 9:26:04 AM   
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It's a real testament to the writing talent of this series that they can do "Doctor-lite" episodes and they can turn out really good!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/5/2008 10:00:07 AM   
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In the UK anyhow... who's going to be watching, who's going to be jealous of those of those watching!

Not me! Doctor Who lost it when they went hi-tech special effects. Now, it's just a British Star Trek, Battle Star Galactica, etc. It's a whole different show now. The real Doctor Who battled aliens in rubber suits in London quarries depicted as other planets, and ran through hallways of abandoned factories and corporate buildings. If God had intended for Daleks to fly, he would have gave them strings. Hail Tom Baker!!!!

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/5/2008 12:04:36 PM   
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Interesting perspective there, Lee. I guess maybe it's a generational thing. My husband grew up on the orginal series and loved it, but hasn't really gotten into the current one. On the other hand, DW was buried on PBS when I was a kid, so I never heard about it until I went to university (in the 90's). Even then I didn't really have a desire to watch it because the idea of a man flying around in a box sounded pretty silly.


Then I moved to Britain in the summer of 2004. That December EVERYBODY in the UK was talking about the return of the Dr. What the heck, I thought, might as well give it a shot and see what everybody's talking about. To my surprise, I actually liked it. Now, if I were to go back and watch the older series, I'd probably laugh. In fact, when they brought back the Daleks and my husband told me how they used to not go up stairs, I did laugh. I'm not making fun of the old shows, just appreciating how far we've come, and, frankly, how much better I think things are now.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/5/2008 2:58:16 PM   
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Not me! Doctor Who lost it when they went hi-tech special effects. Now, it's just a British Star Trek, Battle Star Galactica, etc. It's a whole different show now. The real Doctor Who battled aliens in rubber suits in London quarries depicted as other planets, and ran through hallways of abandoned factories and corporate buildings. If God had intended for Daleks to fly, he would have gave them strings. Hail Tom Baker!!!!


Star Trek would never have a David Tennant. John de Lancie's portrayal of Q was the closest thing, and that was used very sparingly. BSG is a whole different ball game, although there are a few campy moments, it's a very dark show.

BTW...if anyone likes classic Doctor Who and is considering getting Verizon FIOS, there's an OnDemand channel called Illusion that shows classic DW as well as old sci-fi movies, other BBC sci-fi, anime, etc. Right now they're doing a Tom Baker series, but before that it was a 2nd Doctor series, so they aren't going in order or anything.

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RE: Dr Who is coming back - 6/5/2008 8:49:10 PM   
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Interesting perspective there, Lee. I guess maybe it's a generational thing. My husband grew up on the orginal series and loved it, but hasn't really gotten into the current one. On the other hand, DW was buried on PBS when I was a kid, so I never heard about it until I went to university (in the 90's). Even then I didn't really have a desire to watch it because the idea of a man flying around in a box sounded pretty silly.


Then I moved to Britain in the summer of 2004. That December EVERYBODY in the UK was talking about the return of the Dr. What the heck, I thought, might as well give it a shot and see what everybody's talking about. To my surprise, I actually liked it. Now, if I were to go back and watch the older series, I'd probably laugh. In fact, when they brought back the Daleks and my husband told me how they used to not go up stairs, I did laugh. I'm not making fun of the old shows, just appreciating how far we've come, and, frankly, how much better I think things are now.

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It could very well be a generational thing. I think it's really a different show now with similar concepts and visuals. I think the long gap, less verbal censorship, and the changes in television technology has made the usual transition of Doctors impossible. I think it's pretty safe to say that the special effects in the originals (60's-80's Doctor Who) were quite a bit lower than the original Star Trek series. There was a definite charm to them. They made great usage of what little they had to work with. Much of it came across as being on a stage. So, in that perspective, the visuals were quite spectacular.

One of the problems I have with the big special fx productions, like the new DW, the various Star Trek series', etc. is they seem to use various themes from popular big budget movies, which allows them to high-light their big special fx. For instance, since ghosts and movies where people are possessed by spirits are popular, DW or ST may create a storyline of an invisible alien possessing crew members. This allows for the whole spectacular visual and audio special fx usage.

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