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iluvatar -> Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/28/2008 8:43:32 AM)

A: The Pop musician plays 3 chords to a thousand people...

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-Dan.




redeemedsaint -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/28/2008 10:00:09 AM)

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DaveW -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/28/2008 12:23:55 PM)

Talent.

I remember thinking the lauded pop guitarists of the 70s were pretty good. Then I heard some jazz guitatists that got no billing whatsoever and they just blew the pop guitarists out of the water. There were exceptions of course. But on the whole.....




uncabeeil -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/28/2008 2:40:48 PM)

What Dave said.




existential -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/29/2008 4:20:18 PM)

Jazz artists take music seriously. They experiment with different chord structures, rythms and improvisation. They are always trying to play a song a little differently each time they play it. their music is a lot on the spiritual side i.e. emotional. Jazz is romantic; pop is in your face. People like pop music better because it is easy to listen to. Nothing of the listener needs to be put into pop music but jazz beckons your attention.

I wish jazz was in churches, but even us Christians want life simple.




Digrieze -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/30/2008 7:30:44 PM)

Pop, Jazz, Rock, & the Blues all have distinctive rhythm and melody patterns. In reality, no one sticks to "the formula" completely, but by and large a "pop" artist will draw from those basic progressions and overtones more than he will a "blues" base, although his particular style may include aspects of those other styles.

An interesting example was the 1970's song "pop music" which was written by analyzing the common factors in the most popular songs of the genre and, ironically, may have defined the genre in the process.

Modern CCM is occasionally floated as another genre but when analyzed for chord and modal progressions it falls well within the "pop and rock" range. "Praise and Worship" has become popular because it's a very simple form of the "pop - rock" group that allows mediocre musicians with almost no practice to pull off a passible version of the songs. That's one reason you'll occasionally run across a musician that has an allergic reaction to it, we're just trained to expect more from ourselves on stage. It goes over into our christian life in that we expect ourselves to give our best to God in our music as well. Sunday morning CCM grates that nerve raw.




DaveW -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/31/2008 6:35:47 AM)

Has anyone read what Bill Gothard (Institute for Basic Youth Conflicts) had to say about jazz?

It will make you sick.....

Here is a hint: Any music with a flatted 3rd (minor key or blues) incites lust, any music with a back beat is idol worship and anything with "alternate" chord structures or complex chords (9th, 11th, diminished, etc) is demonic.

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nealmorsefan -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/31/2008 10:25:01 AM)

There are wackos that will tell you certain types of music are evil...just ignore them.

These days, pop musicians have all their music computer generated for them (Brittney Spears, Ashlee Simpson, etc.). It's very sad. At least pop musicians of the past few decades had a little talent and could play instruments like Buddy Holly, Brian Wilson, Elton John, Phil Collins, Ben Folds, etc. I suppose there have been pop acts all along that had a very low level of talent, but it seems the talent pool is at its all time low right now...primarily because our pop artists don't need to have talent now. On the flip-side, however, the computer geeks that are putting together pop albums these days are getting pretty sophisticated. There's probably never been a higher level of talent in the technological realm than there is today.

Jazz musician=music god. All other musicians wanna be jazz musicians...except maybe Flamenco guitarists (those guys are insane!). 'Nuff said.




iluvatar -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (3/31/2008 7:30:52 PM)

Well, the OP was a joke. I think there's plenty of talent and plenty of unnecessary pretentiousness on both sides. I grew up idolizing the shredders, but as I've been more and more exposed to other forms of music that don't involve 32nd note runs @ 200bpm, I've begun to respect simpler song construction. A song doesn't have to be fast or intricate to be good. Listen to some old soul music - there really isn't a lot going on in those recordings; light drums, some bass, some guitar and horn stabs, and killer vocals. The combination of very light orchestration and very simple individual parts sounds like it'd make for a boring song, but with the right arrangement and flawless execution, you can get magic.

-Dan.




gtrdave -> RE: Q: What's the difference between a Pop musician and a Jazz musician? (4/1/2008 8:00:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: iluvatar

A: The Pop musician plays 3 chords to a thousand people...

[sm=biggrin.gif]

-Dan.


[:D]

It reminds me of the joke:

"Q - What's the difference between a professional trombonist and a large pizza?

A - A Large pizza feeds a family of four."




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