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adelphi_sky -> RE: Who scares you more? (4/7/2008 11:19:05 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tracydolls
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His Church, oh my gosh, It is based on James Cone book. Who says some crazy things about Black vs Whites. Yes, we know that the DNA says we come from Tanzania. Anybody reading the Bible honestly knows that we were Black First. I also know there are racist people all over( I used to be a big racist) but we are to base our Christianity on our color? I don't see that anywhere in the Bible.
Let the man speak for himself. Never have I seen such blind assumptions and faulty leaps of logic before. I don't agree with everything my pastor or even my church does. It's called having our own mind, reasoning, and will. We're not robots. Neither is Obama. I'm sure he can think and speak for himself regardless of what you think his church or pastor is about. And even then, you haven't had teh opportunity to sit down with the Pastor to understand him. You let the media analyze for you. And even THEY haven't been able to ask him directly.
No that's where your are so wrong! He did give a public interview, it was with Sean Hannity og Fox News. Go watch on it on YouTube. The pastor said his Church was based on Black Liberation Theology. He SAID a book by James Cone written in 1968. Now read that book, or go watch video and still tell me what you believe he said. I go and understand for myself. The media did not analyze it for me. I went and read EVERY word of the Church's website. Before and after they changed it and retired the pastor. We are to test it against the Bible. It don't match up.
The theology is so far off, it ain't even funny.
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This is the most judgmental statement I've read yet. Who are you to judge who is AA and who is not? Who put you in charge of race sociology?
I'm not in charge of race sociology. If I was in charge, this would be a WHOLE different world. I would tell Black people stop being fooled by his color, I would tell white people, repent of your racism, it's probaly your last chance to do it. God sent Abe, Martin, JFK, Robert Kennedy to tell you just that. Now BO is coming to be president , repent of our racism, all of us including Rev. Wright.
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Do you even know what being African American means?
YES, I am one. I paid and recieved DNA from African ancestry my fathers line, his mother, they tested 100% Nigerian Ibo. I can scanned the info and send it to you. And a pic of myself.
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Of course not. Trust me, 50 years ago, there'd be no question what race he belonged to. Being African American is just as much about being a race of people who were persecuted in this country
What relative of BO is from this country and came from among among Americas Opressed?
His father is from Africa, they were colonized. His American relative is from Europe, her family owned slaves, I believe.
That was in ancestry.com most of the month of February.
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Ever heard of respect and inclusion? Sure, we'd wish the whole country was Christian. But that is not so. Let us respect others and in doing so, show them the love of Christ. Pray for them and treat them with kindness and you may win them over to Christ. Condemning someone never did anything for the kingdom. Condemn sin and lack of knowledge, not the person. We don't have that power. Only God can condemn a person's soul.
I have never condemed BO. Where do you see me condemning his soul, can't do it, if I wanted to do. Your Right! Only God can. But we are suppose to tell the truth. The truth is Judas Isaicart was a disciple of Jesus. I pray all the time for this country.
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than it is about every one of your ancestors being traced back to Africa. I have white and Indian ancestors in my family and I'm every bit AA than Jesse Jackson or MLK. Hmmm. Or am I? If he's not AA and he's not white, then you tell me what he is. Are there different degrees of AA?
Hes African and American, not AfricanAmerican like me and my family. My father is still alive, he still tells me stories of how he had to pick cotton in La.
BO father was never oppressed here, he went to Harvard when he was here.
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Hmmmm. And we blast Obama's pastor for half-baked theories and beliefs. I see. So, it's okay for us to make wild theories based on misinterpretations of scripture because we can say it is written in the Bible? That's worse if you ask me .
I'm not making wild theories, this is only done after much pain, feeling myself swell with pride, that a man that looked like me could make it this far.
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Oh, by the way, so much for Bush, the Great Christian Hope. Evangelicals and Christian conservatives voted for him in droves. And look where we are. If there were any title of beast to assign to anyone, and I do think that is tragic to label someone a beast when we don't know them personally, wouldn't you think the consensus would point to Bush other than Obama?
Bush the great Christian hope. NONO, Jesus is our hope.
Again, we are commanded to tell the truth, There are beasts in the Bible, that's the truth. I didn't vote for Bush. What God had Bush do is almost over, let's move on from it.
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I mean the devil's strength is lies and trickery right? Bush had all Christians hoodwinked don't ya think?
Yes, he fooled alot of people who say they are Christian. I was not one of them.
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But for some reason, Obama scares you. Wow. While Bush was sweet-talking us about pro-life, marriage amendment, and creation vs. evolution, he was mucking everything else up.
He mucked some things up for real. He played his part. He got the troops and how many countries, down the street from Armagedeon. I agree with you. Here's aScripture Bush reminds me of.
Pro 30:12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.
Pro 30:13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.
Pro 30:14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.
Pro 30:15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:
Now go look up what GWB said about the poor.
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Maybe we should be more scared of voters like you.
No, you ain't got to be scared of my vote. i'm not voting. I'm not putting my John Hancock on ANY of this mess.
I respect your answer and I'm glad that you're not voting based on race. I'm not voting on race either. Like I said in the above post, I was behind Huckabee. But since he's not running, I started looking and the candidates and started to get to Know Obama. Now I do think it's dangerous territory to specify someone's race when they themselves have not come out and say otherwise. For instance, Obama knows people call him an African American. He himself thinks he is. Whether his parents or grandparents came from here or not. To think about it, many slaves weren't born here either. Yet, they were called African American. Lord knows many whites called themselves White Americans, but many come from Ireland, Poland, Russia, etc. I really believe it's what you're perceived as when you set foot on these shores. If people see him as AA and he says he is, well, who am I to tell him he's not? More power to him.
As far as this whole Rev. Wright thing, as a Christian, I would certainly question the theology that comes from that church. But, you can't ascribe a person's character to what church they go to. Obama was a full fledged self-thinking adult when he joined that church. Some people learn how to draw the positives out of the negatives. Just like if you have an abusive mother or father, you take the good that they taught, but you leave the negativity behind and do the right thing. I think Obama is smart enough to choose what advice and teaching to hold on to and that which he can discard as untrue. I have people in my life that have given me direction and who's advice I respect. Most often, I am able to take what they taught and use it to my benefit. Other times, I question and even reject their advice. Even from omy own father. Because I trust in God for direction.
I trust that Obama has the same discernment of whcih advice is profitable and which isn't. I think we really don't give him that credit.
I've belonged to fringe churches. BEen to a holiness church where they have more rules than Leviticus. But I was able to seperate the good preaching of the gospel from the unnecessary rules of tradition.
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