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P31W -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/20/2008 8:38:45 AM)

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I'm a lil' confused, so I hope my answer doesn't seem off the subject.


You said exactly what I though. You were dead on.



JimboFletch -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/20/2008 8:49:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: evry1needsgod

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Ok so that pretty much deals with how we live our life as a christian?


I'm a lil' confused, so I hope my answer doesn't seem off the subject. If it is, correct me. Yes, "standards of separation" is simply the standard one holds as to how separated they are from the world, and our "standards of separation" affect how we live our life as a Christian. But, everyone sees it different. A perfect example is this playing cards issue.

Some denominations TEND to be a little more separated than others. Independent Fundamentals Baptists are among the most separated, but don't get me wrong, they aren't wacko, like the Amish or the Fundamental Mormons. Many IFB will not play cards, play pool, go to movie theaters, wear pants (girls), listen to certain music, and the list goes on. SBC, however, at least in my experience, is not nearly as separated. Thats all.

I think there is some confusion on the difference between separation and isolation, or being different because of Christ and being weird because of man-generated "standards."

And, IMO, "wacko" is is the eyes of the beholder.
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Annie64 -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/25/2008 6:55:25 AM)

I enjoyed reading/skimming this thread! I'm not a Baptist and never have been, but it's amazing how the Baptist experience many of you had growing up parallels my experience as a Wesleyan preacher's kid. I also was taught that it was wrong to play cards--as well as smoke, drink, gamble, dance, or go to movies. Now, as far as cards go, only "playing cards" were prohibited. We played Rook all the time, and Uno, when that came out. I don't remember that it had anything to do with faces on the cards, only with their association with gambling. Funny, though, that Bingo never got the same prohibition. Pool was wrong, but not Bingo. As a child I had a Bingo game that I played with my siblings and I didn't know until years later that the game was associated in any way with gambling. Did any of you Baptists have prohibitions against playing Bingo even without gambling? Or was that game somehow more innocent than the others?



pray4all -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/25/2008 8:57:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Heavendweller

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Heavendweller: Yeah, but what do they think about Lutherans? :)

Colliefan: "Too much like Catholics. No Christians before the Reformation."

Hmmmmm.....Martin Luther (as in Lutherans) was the mover and shaker of the Reformation!

No Christians before the Reformation? 1500 years and no Church, no Christians???????? [8|][8|][8|]

Heavendweller

the reformation (Martin Luther & John Calvin} had it's good points and then some not so good, ie salvation by Grace, but then again Calvin and Luther studied Augustine's writtings. Augustine believed in salvation by grace, he believed in cessationism also, untill his laters years, when he retracted that believe, to the point of actually recording the miracules in his church. I believe he recorded 70 within a 2 year period, Augustine would only record those that he viewed 1st hand.
so the reformation brought to protesants the cessation of the works of the Holy Spirit.

concerning card playing, the 2 groups of diffrent denominations in 1555 awaiting death by fire for there faith, while in prison (bloody mary's reighn) were hottly debateive over that matter while in prison awaiting death. The 2 groups were predestinators and the freewillers, could be wrong, because it has been awhile since I read about it, but I do believe there was mention of gambling involved in prison.



Roberta_ -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/25/2008 10:13:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ps103
She could beat me at canasta without even trying[:D]


Oh, I love Canasta!! I haven't found anyone to play that with me in probably 20 years or so.



evry1needsgod -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/25/2008 12:55:30 PM)

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I enjoyed reading/skimming this thread! I'm not a Baptist and never have been, but it's amazing how the Baptist experience many of you had growing up parallels my experience as a Wesleyan preacher's kid. I also was taught that it was wrong to play cards--as well as smoke, drink, gamble, dance, or go to movies. Now, as far as cards go, only "playing cards" were prohibited. We played Rook all the time, and Uno, when that came out. I don't remember that it had anything to do with faces on the cards, only with their association with gambling. Funny, though, that Bingo never got the same prohibition. Pool was wrong, but not Bingo. As a child I had a Bingo game that I played with my siblings and I didn't know until years later that the game was associated in any way with gambling. Did any of you Baptists have prohibitions against playing Bingo even without gambling? Or was that game somehow more innocent than the others?


WOW, that's an almost perfect explanation of my experiences! As far as bingo, nope, never had an issue with it. I and my brothers, when we were little, went to our grandparents house to play bingo. They bought presents, wrapped them, and gave them to the winners. We played bingo for HOURS, and it has become one of my greatest childhood memories. And I'm a Baptist...



P31W -> RE: Baptists and playing cards (5/26/2008 10:20:04 AM)

The only cards my mother threw a fit over were tarot cards and the only board she went nutzo over was a ouija board. She made us get rid of both of those and would not allow our friends to bring them over. (of course we played with them at their house and they would "sneek" them over to ours)

The only movie we were not allowed to go to were R rated until we were 17. That really ticked me off because my other friends who were also SB were allowed to go see certain ones. But NOT ME...no my mother made we wait until I was 17!!!

Bingo was fine. Of course as kids we didn't have money to gamble with even if we wanted to.



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