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JordanW -> NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/24/2008 6:18:32 PM)

Discuss the NFL here and all your favorite teams. [:D]



Single4Life -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 5:05:08 AM)

There doesn't seem to be a lot of pizzazz to this draft since the best players are linemen. Matt Ryan is apparently the best QB on the boards, but nobody is really vying for him. They'll take him if he's available. It doesn't sound like it's a good draft class for WRs either.

I like that the Dolphins locked up the first pick w/ a pre-draft contract. The whole deal btw JaMarcus Russell holding out last year was a joke! They should have a rookie salary cap b/c these guys should EARN their $$$!! I doubt there is any way that will be approved any time soon. It won't even be on the table as the owners begin to re-work the bargaining agreement.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 5:18:02 AM)

Yeah, the draft doesn't really have that much hype whatsoever this year as it did in previous years. What's your favorite team? I'm a Vikings fan.[8D]



Single4Life -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 5:32:54 AM)

I'm a Redskins fan. I'm glad that our owner has downplayed the free agency this year in favor of the draft. (That's probably b/c we're so over the cap!) I'm hoping Coach Zorn is really steering this ship in the right direction...like we all wish Joe Gibbs had done.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 5:37:21 AM)

Ahh! The Redskins, the team that took my Vikings out of the playoffs. [:@]



cow451 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 2:34:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Single4Life

I'm a Redskins fan. I'm glad that our owner has downplayed the free agency this year in favor of the draft. (That's probably b/c we're so over the cap!) I'm hoping Coach Zorn is really steering this ship in the right direction...like we all wish Joe Gibbs had done.


I think the skins have problems higher up in the organization. Both Spurrier and Gibbs are great coaches. That tells me something else is amiss, possibly Mr Snyder.



Single4Life -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/25/2008 6:17:18 PM)

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I think the skins have problems higher up in the organization. Both Spurrier and Gibbs are great coaches. That tells me something else is amiss, possibly Mr Snyder.

No argument that the Redskins have management issues b/c the owner likes to use this team as his fantasy football team. Spurrier is a great college coach, but I don't think he would've succeeded w/ any other pro team. You'd think that Gibbs would have changed things around, but he totally bought into Dan Snyder's way of doing everything...giving up draft picks for has-been free agents...then overpaying them!

That's what gives me a little hope about Jim Zorn as the new coach. They haven't been reckless in the free agent market. Maybe he has brought a little common sense to the front office. As much of a loud mouth as he is, I think the Redskins made a reasonable offer for a NEED position when they offered first and third (conditional first) picks for Chad Johnson. It seems like fair market value for a proven WR.

Maybe they'll go back to their old ways tomorrow and make a foolish offer for Chad Johnson. After all, you can't let the Cowboys or Eagles get him! Denver has benefitted GREATLY over the years from the foolishness of Dan Snyder.



FroMan -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/26/2008 3:40:56 AM)

Darren McFadden is the best player in the draft, too bad he's not smart enough to stay out of trouble. I'm more excited to see what Felix Jones does. I'm an Arkansan by the way...so this draft is pretty exciting to me.

I'm a Cowboys and Colts fan.

I'm not real sure why Jerry Jones went after Pacman...same last name maybe? TO didn't get enough negative press last year? I don't know.

I am glad to see the Patriots lose key players however. They epitomize evil in the NFL. I'm not a Belichick, Moss, or Brady fan.

Speakin of football, I can't wait til Madden 09 comes out.



rmiller15 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/26/2008 9:21:24 AM)

Hi Single4Life I agree with you about a rookie salary cap. I had this conversation the other day with a coworker. I told them they need to prove they can paly with THE BIG BOY! Let them earn the money, maybe build some incentives into the con tract.

By the way I am a DIE HARD Browns fan. I like what they did picking up the two defense players. A fox news person is given the Browns an A+ on this years draft base on this and getting Quinn last year.


GO BROWNS



MoshForChrist -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/27/2008 9:57:52 PM)

I'm a Jags fan. Woot!
Maybe some day we'll win a big one.[;)]



D3kkerfan -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/27/2008 10:39:28 PM)

Jags fan here too. After drafting two DEs early on, an LB, a CB, and an RB, I believe they scored very well. [8D] Now they need a third-string QB.



Single4Life -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/28/2008 1:54:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: D3kkerfan

Jags fan here too. After drafting two DEs early on, an LB, a CB, and an RB, I believe they scored very well. [8D] Now they need a third-string QB.


I don't know...is Garrard really the QB of the future for the Jags? I don't really keep up w/ them, but isn't he kinda up and down? Everything I've heard is that Jax is close to the Superbowl!

Redskins draft was pretty good! I liked how they traded out of the overpriced 1st round to pick up TWO 2nd rounders...who apparently are valuable WRs. The TE from USC, plus a good punter is not too shabby!



MoshForChrist -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/28/2008 7:06:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Single4Life

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ORIGINAL: D3kkerfan

Jags fan here too. After drafting two DEs early on, an LB, a CB, and an RB, I believe they scored very well. [8D] Now they need a third-string QB.


I don't know...is Garrard really the QB of the future for the Jags? I don't really keep up w/ them, but isn't he kinda up and down? Everything I've heard is that Jax is close to the Superbowl!


He's actually rather consistent. He doesn't put up monster numbers but he gets the job done.
I wished the Jags had a decent WR....... I'm not sold out on Porter yet.......
Oh, and nice avatar D3kkerfan. I love the Oompa Loompa!



RHardin15 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/28/2008 10:21:10 AM)

I'm a Carolina fan (since 1995. hehe), and I'm pretty happy about our draft picks. I still have some concerns about our team, but give us another year or two and I think we'll be strong.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/28/2008 2:53:46 PM)

Well my team (Vikings) did great in the draft! We got the 2nd best Safety available in the draft, as well as John David Booty from the Trojans.



Rufas2000 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/28/2008 3:44:17 PM)

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I am glad to see the Patriots lose key players however. They epitomize evil in the NFL. I'm not a Belichick, Moss, or Brady fan.


Really, the epitome of evil? I'm a Pats fan. I understand Belichick (he cheated and got what he deserved, if he / they cheated more he'll / they'll deserve more) and to some extent Moss (what would he have to do for people to think he's redeemed) but Brady? Why all the Brady hate (not you in particular)? I'm not crazy about his choice in girlfriends (they look great and all but two supermodels?) but I've never seen anything but class from him.

Unless this is just "football hate talk".

The Pats drafted OK, the only major loss this offseason was Samuel but thats a big one. And they didn't make any big signings. I don't think they'll do nearly as well as last year. Losing in the AFC championship game makes a team mad and itching to go at it (like the Pats ended two seasons ago). Losing a Super Bowl when trying to do something only one other team has ever done is incredibly disheartening and I'm not sure they can recover from it.

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A fox news person is given the Browns an A+ on this years draft base on this and getting Quinn last year.


I didn't realize the Browns were a Republican organization. [:D]

I'm just hoping some more compelling "storylines" emerge. Football wise storylines like "will the Pats recover from their near miss at perfection. How about this: are the Giants more like the team that went on the Super Bowl run or the team that struggled at midseason. Football storylines not soap opera like storylines..



Beanteaser -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/29/2008 11:17:02 AM)

I am a huge Viking fan! We had a small draft (5 picks), but we had an amazing off season. Acquiring Jared Allen, Madieu Williams, Bernard Berrian, and a few others. All of the pieces are there for a great team. My one concern is at QB, if Tarvaris plays consistent, the Vikings will win the NFC North.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/29/2008 2:11:42 PM)

Awesome! I love the Vikings as well! We did do great in the off season. I can't wait to see how all of it flows together.[:D]



mapachito13 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/30/2008 7:36:06 PM)

Been a Steelers fan since the late seventies. I like the Colts too. Last year Eli made me a Giants fan. (Those Manning boys are sheer class.) He gave us one of the most memorable Super Bowls in a long time! That playoff game in Green Bay was pretty good too!

My oldest son is a Green Bay fan. (His best friend is too.) My youngest, at seven, likes the Chargers and the NY Jets (sorry cow451). I don't know why he like them. Maybe because he beat his dad on Madden football playing as them. He has a Tomlinson jersey that he wears every Sunday whether it's football season or not.

One team I will never root for anymore is the Raiders. That Raider nation stuff with their F word motto shows the lack of class that team has. And living in LA you see it everywhere.[:'(][:'(][:'(] I confess I rooted for them during their three Super Bowl wins but that was during the John Madden, Tom Flores, Stabler, Plunkett & Marcus Allen era. It's amazing that the less class they show the less games they win! But that's as it should be.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (4/30/2008 11:44:13 PM)

The Steelers are cool. I've been a Packers fan, I used to switch off between them and the Vikings because they are in the same division, and that made my Dad and brother mad, LOL.



mapachito13 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (5/1/2008 5:49:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JordanW

The Steelers are cool. I've been a Packers fan, I used to switch off between them and the Vikings because they are in the same division, and that made my Dad and brother mad, LOL.


My brother was the Vikings fan. We were at each others throats when the Raiders beat them in the Super Bowl. I was a Raiders fan then. They (the Vikings) have had a competitive team always. I don't think their players rap sheets are that long either. [;)]

I can't wait for the season to start. Hockey will be done soon and then its a long hot summer of nothing but baseball which bores me to tears. I follow the transactions and off season news but nothing beats game day!!!



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (5/1/2008 4:00:31 PM)

I can't wait either, it's going to be very exciting! My Dad has loved the Vikings since the late 60's and he said that they would always do good, but never could win a Superbowl.[:D]



bford64 -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (5/2/2008 6:53:49 AM)

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mapachito13 said: I was a Raiders fan then


Wwwwwait a minute brother. Once a Raider always a Raider[;)]. I know they have had a rough go of it since Rich retired but hang in there.
I agree with the earlier post about rookie salary caps. I hope the Raiders get their $$ out of JR and he doesn't end up a bust. Their record with #1 picks hasn't been very good lately.



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (5/3/2008 12:20:11 PM)

Steelers fan since day I was crawling on the ground. Love my Steelers. they had a decent draft, picked up a good RB and WR. still need some work on line with Faneca leaving.



JordanW -> RE: NFL 2008-2009 Thread (5/3/2008 12:50:47 PM)

I had like a dream last night of how awesome this thread is going to be in September/October![:D]



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