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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 11:13:21 AM   
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Just reading that I can picture a few members of our congregation complaining to the pastor about it.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 3:59:38 PM   
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oh? which part? the drama? the wedding? the funeral? and why? I thought it was cool. It's one reason why I love my church (well, the drama and wedding--the funeral was elsewhere).

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 4:02:26 PM   
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Quite interesting services Maggie. I have never attended a wedding being part of the SUnday service. The mime(?) sounds quite emotional and a testimony to God's work in our hearts with His regeneration and faith to believe. There was a couple like that at my old church who had a powerful prison ministry and music background. I wonder if since they were so prominant in ministry they felt unable to share and receive support as a few years later they divorced and Ihaven't heard updates on either of them in ages. "Miracle" salvations have burdens to appear as stronger, more faithful, more sound that is almost impossible to live up to. My that sounds like a depressing comment after the beautiful story of their salvations, and I am not suggesting this will happen to them, just how encouraging we need to be even of these more dramatic testimonials so they don't burn out and bog down. Sorry.

My friends tell me how much busier I am than they even with my cancer, but I look at folks like your mission friend and wonder how they were blessed with more hours in a day than I.

The painting was only a second coat on all the trim and molding. A quick scoot around the baseboard, then closet and door frames. I am pleased to have it done for him. He has so faithfully stood by me and helped me always, he deserves a nice room to enjoy and rest in. It was the room my husband insisted on doing 'custom' himself and then left it unfinished. A friend finished the carpentry left to do. Next project is painting the shed husband built before winter comes again.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 4:16:46 PM   
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Dove, I don't think I'd ever attended a wedding as part of a Sunday service either but what a cool idea! (In my opinion)

That's sad about the couple in your church. That should never happen. I doubt it will happen to this couple because the church is made up of people like them--not completely but there are quite a few of them. I think it's recognized that spiritual growth is a process. And also acknowledged that people do fall--since I've started going there, one of the men who was custodian of the building has had a fall of some sort and has left the position but I hear only love for him and my guess is that he is receiving help--if he wants it.

I think it's awesome that you're able to do so much and I agree with your friends. But yeah, my late friend must have had energy to spare though I never saw him rushed or agitated. There are some painting projects I want to tackle in our house but I haven't done any painting in more than 30 years so it feels like a big barrier to overcome. You are certainly inspiring me though.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 4:46:12 PM   
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My church did that skit. It's very powerful. Thanks for sharing, Maggie.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 4:48:01 PM   
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I didn't read the responses when I wrote that, but I think it's very very cool! I thought the story of the couple who were to hell and back... they're a living testimony of what God can do... and of what God has already done.

I agree very much with Dove.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 7:59:34 PM   
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Hey all, I don't know if news traveled to this thread, My grandma passed away on Sunday evening. She had a massive stroke on Saturday and basically our options were to keep her alive on machines in a vegetative state or allow God to have His way. She never wanted to live like that... so... she lived about 18 hours after they removed the respirator. The funeral services are scheduled for Saturday at 11am.

In other news, I received and accepted a job offer. It came the day before Grandma's stroke (Fri)... so I'm employed. I really am excited about it... I just can't find the "yippee" I had on Friday.

I hope all is well with you all.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 8:36:38 PM   
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First of all, Shaunii, I'm sorry to hear about your grandma.

Congrats on the job, though. What kind of job is it?

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/16/2008 8:37:38 PM   
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Shaunii, I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother. I've been out of town for a week (last week) and haven't caught in any but about three threads, so this is the first I've heard about it. I know you're super close to your family so this must be really hard for you. But the job offer and acceptance is awesome! Wooo hooo! Congratulations! And you'll find the "yippee" again. Just give yourself some time. {{{{{{Shaunii}}}}}}

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 8:44:57 AM   
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Hey Maggie! Hey everyone!

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 11:42:18 AM   
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(((((Shaunii)))))

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 11:52:38 AM   
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quote:

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oh? which part? the drama? the wedding? the funeral? and why? I thought it was cool. It's one reason why I love my church (well, the drama and wedding--the funeral was elsewhere).


Yep...the drama.

I'd love it too.

This last year was spent as Council President at church. Believe me, I got to hear it all, and some people just love to complain about anything.

We had a Christmas Eve service in which our pastor put on a skit. She portrayed a homeless person...with mental issues. I loved it even though it could make a person uncomfortable.

Being active in the Social Concerns area of our church and the soup kitchen, I see this type of behavior often (homeless/mental issues). It very much reflects reality. She did an excellent job with it and there was a wonderful message.

Most of our congregation loved it. But then of course there were a very vocal few that complained to no end. They felt that it was highly inappropriate and ruined their Christmas.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 12:23:21 PM   
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Wow, what an awesome skit! I've never heard of anything like that before. Great about the wedding too.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 1:19:38 PM   
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It's the kind of skit that makes you feel uncomfortable. It's SUPPOSED to make you feel uncomfortable.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 1:22:01 PM   
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Still, very powerful.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 1:35:49 PM   
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Exactly.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 2:28:50 PM   
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It's the kind of skit that makes you feel uncomfortable. It's SUPPOSED to make you feel uncomfortable.




Exactly.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/17/2008 5:04:50 PM   
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My church is having a camp-out this weekend in a nearby provincial park. I'm scared. It's really hard for me to go to things unless I know ahead of time what's going to happen or I have some control over what will happen. Yesterday I told dh that I changed my mind and didn't want to go but the reason I gave was that I don't have enough energy to pull my weight in gathering all the things we need to take for tenting and then setting up and taking down camp. He agreed.

But last night I had trouble sleeping because of my fears and anxiety so, in discussing it with God, I decided that I have to go despite my fear. I have sent a couple of e-mails to the church to get some of the information I need. Yes, there will be electricity for my C-PAP machine. Yes, meals will be shared pot-luck style. One of the pastors and his wife will arrive around 2:00 so now I don't have to worry about arriving at the place too early or too late.

Energy is still an issue. I have to save all my energy tomorrow for packing and setting up camp so when do I get what is needed for meals? Tonight, I guess. Dh isn't very happy that meals will be shared. He says that he never gets a chance to eat the thing he's made or brought at such events and that this isn't the right way to do things. But sharing is an important part of our church and something that the pastor wants us to learn how to do more of. It makes sense to me and I like sharing.

So, instead of vacuuming the house today as I planned, I'm going to go grocery shopping to get what is needed for the weekend, though I guess I have to first figure out what to prepare. I'm thinking five meals though we'll probably arrive before supper time tomorrow so maybe I should be thinking six--two each of breakfast, lunch and dinner. I'll also take some snack things to keep in the car if dh and I don't get enough to eat or don't get enough of what we like--hopefully that will appease dh.

I told dh about my fears and asked him if he would be willing to support and encourage me. He agreed so hopefully things will go well. I hate being at the mercy of fear. Maybe if I do things despite my fears I'll eventually overcome them. I hope so. This whole social phobia thing is something I'm just learning about myself but it answers a lot of questions, though WHY I have the phobia is something I don't have a complete handle on yet. And I know it's not as severe as it is for others, thankfully. Please pray that all goes well? thanks

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 10:28:51 AM   
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Maggie, our old church had an annual camp weekend. The most fun of the weekend was campfire time when we all spread out what we brought and everyone helped themselves. We grilled everything and enjoyed fantastic meals. The fellowship just added to it. One year we had kabobs, shrimp, and many other great foods besides hamburgers and hotdogs. Our gathering meals through the year were buffet style as well. What a selection of great foods. I can't say how your group will handle this, but I'd go anticipating a great time atleast. Next year you will know more how to prepare. As my family had special diets, I always took their personal snack foods, etc anyway and it was understood they were not shared foods. No one minded. We didn't put them on the public table and kept them ourselves but people understood not to ask for samples etc. They respected their allergies.

I am also thinking of the economic conditions of some of your church families. It may be helpful for you to look at this as a ministry and bring what extra you can afford to bring as well, so many will be satisfied. Not beyond your means, but more than you would take for only yourselves.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 11:47:28 AM   
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Thanks for your encouragement, Dove!

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I am also thinking of the economic conditions of some of your church families. It may be helpful for you to look at this as a ministry and bring what extra you can afford to bring as well, so many will be satisfied. Not beyond your means, but more than you would take for only yourselves.

That's exactly what I was thinking as I was shopping last night so I bought double of each thing. I have no idea if the poorer folk will be coming or not. One of the boundaries that the pastor seems to keep firmly in place is that to attend a potluck you must bring a contribution or not attend, so I'm not sure how that will play out for the camp-out. I'm still learning how things are done at this church.

Last night dh was in a foul mood. He denied he was--though he listed a number of complaints--and so was unwilling to try to resolve the problem. This put me in a place of sobbing and despair. I know my well-being shouldn't depend on him or anyone else, but knowing and doing are not the same. Eventually he went off into another room to watch a praise and worship video and I talked to God about the problem and then did mindless stuff online. By the time I went to bed I was doing much better. I think my fear was/is that his bad mood would spill into today and the weekend. His bad moods incapacitate me so I would be unable to do what I need to do to get ready today if he was still grouchy and it would completely ruin my weekend. At least that's my fear. I've talked to God about it again this morning and asked him to be present with us today and so far all is well. I hope to be leaving in about 5 hours but there is much to do and I think I'll need a nap in there somewhere so I'm not sure if we'll succeed with that goal.

If I don't get back here today, I hope you all have a great weekend.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 12:18:50 PM   
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If I don't get back here today, I hope you all have a great weekend.
And we hope and pray that you do too.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 12:58:52 PM   
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Thanks, Ben. Good to see you posting.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 1:53:47 PM   
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Same here.

I know what you mean.... sometimes when people in my family are grouchy, I tend to be pulled down because of that.

I had a Bible study last night with a friend from church. Do you remember the book Captivating? We did a study on it before at this forum. The 2 of us are doing it on that! It went pretty well. She took me to Panera and I had tea. That was my first time at Panera... I loved it! There's a lot of places I've never been to. (Like Panera, until yesterday. Or Marshall's, until yesterday. Or Old Navy. I've never eaten at Dunkin Donuts either, or Starbucks.)


We studied the first chapter and had a very nice discussion.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 2:38:17 PM   
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Yes! I remember Captivating. I lead the study of it with the women's group at my last church. Do you have the study guide or just the text? The study guide has good questions in it to get you thinking. What I did was answer the questions for myself ahead of time and then choose which questions we would discuss. It was great if others had also read the chapter and thought about the questions.

I've been to Starbucks and Old Navy. We have those here.

Well, I've got a lot of our stuff put together ready to put in the car. When I went to the basement to find the camping gear, in 15 minutes of bending and lifting and pushing and pulling I was completely out of breath and exhausted. It took me an hour's rest to recover. But the other hasn't been too bad--probably because it doesn't require so much bending. I'm going to soak for an hour in the tub in lieu of napping, and then I guess I'll run my errands and get the rest of the stuff together after that. I was feeling pretty discouraged after those first 15 minutes but I'm doing okay now. If only I could find my rain poncho.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/18/2008 3:36:32 PM   
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I have both!!! We had a good discussion. One thing that struck me is that even after so long I still don't think myself is very pretty. It doesn't stress me out, but it's something I've accepted as true and I don't really want to think about it unless I'm in a bad mood or something.

We're planning to do a chapter once every two weeks if we can. We actually didn't finish the chapter this time.

Have fun in the tub!!!!!

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