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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 2:55:05 PM   
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Did your doctor discuss surgery with you?

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:08:55 PM   
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Yes, back in 1991 or 92. The thing with surgery is that there's no guarantee the endometriosis won't come back and, in fact, it often does. Because even the laparoscopy took a long time to recover from, I didn't want to even think about what major surgery would do to my system.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:10:53 PM   
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I had surgery and got rid of it all.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:22:46 PM   
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wow.

I've thought of that from time to time. At this point in my life I'm near menopause and my understanding is that the endo will completely stop at menopause so I've figured I'll just wait for that.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:25:17 PM   
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I had 25kgs or 50lbs of ovarian cysts there as well, that were borderline malignant. That kind of sealed the deal for me in terms of having surgery.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:34:04 PM   
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Oh yeah. That would do it! Sometimes I wish there were 50 pounds of something in me that could be removed so I could be thinner. I know, I know. That's not the way to do it. I've gained 25 pounds since my lowest weight nearly 18 months ago. This has been so discouraging. But an interesting thing happened. I didn't try on my "skinny" clothes (they're not skinny--just skinnier), assuming that with a 25 pound gain they would be too small, and went out and bought a new pair of jeans one size bigger. Guess what? They're way too big and kept falling down. Go figure! I guess I've lost inches even while gaining weight so now I don't feel as discouraged.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 3:37:39 PM   
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Congrats!

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/25/2008 4:01:22 PM   
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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/26/2008 10:32:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: magdaleine

Sometimes life is easier when one's pains are left ignored and untouched.


But that would put all of the shrinks out of business.

That's pretty much how I don't deal with things. It's easier just to not talk about it.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/26/2008 12:54:18 PM   
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That sounds like me. Try not to talk about things. It's a bit harder not to talk about physical pain when it's so obvious. No matter how much I try not to, I end up whinging about it and then feel bad for the people I'm talking to.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/28/2008 3:50:13 PM   
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Hello. Just popping in to say "Hi".
It's been a while since my last post and I'm a bit out of touch. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things.

My Summer is going along quietly. My husband is doing his thing and I am doing mine. Not much in common.

I'm having trouble adjusting to my cpap. Had to exchange masks. My face got torn up with the first one and I've had to wait to heal up. I still wake up with headaches even when I do use the machine. Something we had hoped would stop. Oh well. I went back for the follow-up sleep study with my machine. I will hear that report this Thursday.

My depression level is rather high these days. Not sure just why. Maybe due to marriage issues. I still miss Little Bit, my dog that died in June.

On a good note, my daughter and I are enjoying a closer relationship these days. Thanking God for that! She still needs a better spiritual guide than I have been providing for her though. I feel pressure over that.

Hope to catch up with everyone and stay focused.
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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/28/2008 4:39:46 PM   
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That's pretty much how I don't deal with things. It's easier just to not talk about it.

yeah, well, easier in the short run, not the long.

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No matter how much I try not to, I end up whinging about it and then feel bad for the people I'm talking to.

Trish, you have legitimate complaints and it often helps to talk to others about them. {{{{{{{{{Trish}}}}}}}}}

PENGIE!!!!! I've been praying for you and wondering how you are doing. It's so good to see you. I would have tracked you down soon if you hadn't posted.

The C-PAP does take time to get used to, I know that. I'm sorry it messed up your face. I had an allergy to the band that holds the mask on the face. Initially I had to make my own band out of cotton but they eventually began carrying a hypo-allergenic one. It's not the same shape as the proper one but it sure beats having a huge angry rash on my face. It's too bad that it's not helping the headaches. I'm sure that's a disappointment to you. And yeah, your marriage difficulties would surely increase your depression. Have you talked to the doctor abou it? {{{{{{{{Pengie}}}}}}} about Little Bit.

About your daughter, perhaps you could buy some books for her that would speak to her about God? Is she still going to church? Maybe you could call that church and the pastor there and see if they can do anything to help her. As for you being a model for her, you will be regardless of what you say and do. Parents have a lot of influence on their kids, even when they're grown. I made a decision one time to not take a shortcut through a residential area. A year later, ds2 told me that he's made a point of not doing that now too. He's nearly 26. Everything you do, spiritually or not, will have an impact on your daughter. Perhaps the best way to help her spiritually is for you to develop more of a relationship with God yourself.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/29/2008 10:35:00 AM   
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Hi (((((((Pengie))))))))))) ((((((((Trish)))))))))))
Glad to get updates on everyone. I am recuperating from another round of chemo. Starting to feel more mentally alert but physically am very weak, yet. I've been doing some needlework,
first in a long time, since I was ill in Feb, and reading more on ADD. The more I read about
this, the more I think I understand my daughter, then we have some bizarre conflicts like this
week and I'm wondering what planet she's come off this time.

Also looking for some good turnip recipes. We were given some to eat and I think the best bet for the kids is too fry them with bacon. Any ideas?

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/29/2008 12:57:18 PM   
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{{{{{{{{{{{DOVE}}}}}}}}}}} . . . it's good to see you posting again . . praying you regain your strength quickly.

Don't all teens come from another planet??? . . . I was under that impression the entire time mine were home. Now I get to watch our daughter experience all that with her two girls

Turnips . . don't know how the kids would like this, but my mother-in-law used to make turnip slaw . . . a little simpler, I'm thinking, than regular slaw, but the same idea. We loved it. I made it a few times -- it has grated turnips, onions, salt, pepper, vinegar & oil to taste -- maybe a dab of sugar. Makes me want some just thinking about it


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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/29/2008 1:51:55 PM   
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Thank you Leah, I never heard of turnip slaw. That sounds good. I have a good vinegar
slaw dressing, Ill try some in a small portion to test out.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/30/2008 4:15:55 PM   
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Hi Maggie, and everyone!
Hope everyone hasn't forgotten me. There's been so much going on around here lately that...I wouldn't remember my name, if it wasn't for somebody calling it out every few minutes! I've not had time to come on here and post like I'd like to (every day). I've read up on some posts and find that, there's still a lot to be praying about. So I'm continuing in prayer for everyone. God's blessings sent to all of you.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/30/2008 5:03:39 PM   
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As for you being a model for her, you will be regardless of what you say and do.


This is something I am very well aware of. I have always tried to lead by example - hoping she'll develop her own faith and love for God. I have prayed many a prayer for her, you can be sure. I have told her to just hold onto that mustard seed of faith and that God will grow it into something wonderful. She knows I love her - I try to impress upon her that God loves her so much more!

We haven't been attending church anywhere. I worry about that. I would love to have the energy to go with her.

It's been another 2 weeks since my husband took his last shower. Don't foresee him taking another one anytime soon. This is one reason why we live on seperate floors . I don't really care to spend much time with him. Not much in common anymore.

Dove, I admire you for your strength and your decision. I know it has had to be hard. I am not strong enough to make it myself - though I no doubt ought to. So, I continue living in depression and loneliness.
It can't be healthy for my daughter either . . .


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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/30/2008 7:11:22 PM   
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Hi zondie,
Pengie I continue to pray for you. I understand your predicament.
I took daughter 9yr, for cardiology review today. Found birth irregularity that may
require surgery. One more thing.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/30/2008 9:21:04 PM   
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Dove! It's good to see you here. I'm sorry to hear you're done in again but I'm hopeful for you. You had so much energry before this round of chemo that I can't help but believe you'll get that energy back again. Needlework sounds like a great thing to do when you have little physical energy but your mind is working well. Ouch! about your daughter. I will pray she doesn't need surgery. Ds1 has a birth defect in his heart. Thankfully he needs no surgery. On the other hand, he's got to be vigilant about his mouth (there's supposedly some connection) and take antibiotics before any dental work. {{{{{{Dove}}}}}}

Turnips--I like them boiled and mashed with butter. But I'm thinking you could cut them as fries and fry them. Turnip slaw does NOT sound appealling. Sorry, Linda. Did you try it Dove? What did you think?

Hey Zondie! Good to see you back! I saw your post in Linda's thread earlier today. Nope, you're not forgotten about.

Pengie, your daughter will see God's love through your love--something I think you're succeeding at communicating. As for church, while it would be good, God knows your limitations and he's not going to penalize your daughter for that. If God can convert Muslims to Christianity through dreams, never having met a Christian before in their lives (and he is, like crazy!) he can (and will) bring your daughter into a living relationship with him. Ick about your husband not showering. I keep praying for your marriage (as well as your health). {{{{{{{{{Pengie}}}}}}}}}

I'm sitting at The Forks for the afternoon (leaving soon because my parking time is nearly done) and loving all that I see through the large windows beside me.

I took dh out for breakfast this morning--had to practically twist his arm. "I don't eat breakfast!" "I already had coffee." Can you see me roll my eyes? So I told him that my intention for the morning was to sit there to read and write for the morning so he could bring the book he's reading.

The place we went to is a chain that's new to Winnipeg; and it's a Canadian chain (that's often hard to tell at first glance because so much of the US seeps through our borders). It's an awesome place committed to HEALTHY breakfasts. For instance, they roast their potatoes instead of frying them. They offer oatmeal. And nearly every dish comes with fresh fruit. This is my second time there and both times I ordered a fruit plate but this isn't like any fruit place you've (or at least I've) ever seen. There were strawberries, star fruit, cantelope, pineapple, banana, kiwi, apple, pear and maybe I've missed one or two. The whole lot is arranged very artistically on the plate. Check it out here: http://www.chezcora.com/a/02-au-menu/2-0-caroussel.htm So good!

Recently I was telling someone that dh had become a Seventh-day Adventist (that's what I was growing up) just so I would marry him. That person said something I'd never thought of before: "Wow! You must have been very special." Hmmm. I've always felt very unloved. (Someone's just walked into this coffee shop with the same green hat that I have.) So after mulling on this for some time, I decided to ask dh why. Why did he do something he quickly came to detest, just so he could marry me? My focus wasn't on, "Why did you deceive me?" but "What drew you so much to me?"

He had a hard time answering because he's never thought about it. Says he doesn't analyze things like I do. But with some prodding, he came up with the following:
1. I affirmed him
2. I was pretty
3. I was a good friend--this being significant because in his entire life he can count only two, maybe three people, who he's felt close to
4. I was different from the other girls--a result of my Christian/SDA values.

Wow! I cried as he told me because I've believed for so long that he detested me, or at least didn't love me. His actions and words certainly gave that impression.

I thought about why I was attracted to him back then and I think the primary reason wasn't anything specific about him but more that he was someone who was interested in me, liked me, wanted me. I guess I was pretty desperate for acceptance. Still am, I guess, because that has continued to be the primary link between me and those I call friends.

And then it hit me. No wonder my marriage has been so painful and why I have felt so unloved. As soon as we were married, his attitude toward me changed. No longer did I feel liked and wanted. Quite the opposite. The thing I had based the marriage on had vanished. It sure isn't healthy to have one's well-being so tied to what someone else does or doesn't do or say. And it certainly was very self-centred of me. I had another thought but it's been several hours since I started this and now I can't remember. Maybe later.

Ds2 left for Germany and the Czech Republic this morning. It's cool to see my kids so independent and being able to do big things like this (to me it's big to go somewhere across the ocean). It's great to see them bitten by the travel bug. Three of them this summer have been or are over either the Atlantic or the Pacific this year. Now we just have to pray for the fourth one (ds3) to get a job that he can actually keep.

Since he resigned from his youth pastoring job at Christmas, he has not been able to stick with a job--usually because he keeps reinjuring his legs (never giving them the chance to heal properly). Last week he took a job as a roofer. They hazed him by asking him to carry 56 bundles of shingles, each 75 pounds (he might have been exagerating), up a ladder to the roof. And he was stupid enough to do it. He couldn't work the next three days because of pain and finally resigned from that job because of it. This evening he went to two photo studios to apply for work. He's an excellent photographer and actually worked several months for school photo company (you know the folk that go into a school and take everyone's picture in one day). I hope he gets something. That would be much easier on his legs. I'd appreciate pray for him about this. He's living on his own and managing to survive but only just barely and he has so much going for him. He's such an interesting guy with so many interests and abilities.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 10:45:20 AM   
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That's a very interesting revelation about your marriage...thought provoking.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 10:52:12 AM   
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Yeah. I didn't sleep much last night so I was doing a lot of thinking about it. I think what's struck me the most (well, one of two things) is that he considered me a friend. Sometime ago, in answer to a different question, he said that I'm the one person he's closest with but I haven't seen us as being close at all. But if he considers me his best friend, that changes a lot--or maybe I'm simply responding in the way I usually do: I can be happy because he likes me. Sigh.

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 11:02:09 AM   
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Some men don't treat their friends as they should.

I'm there, I know....

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 11:23:05 AM   
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I suppose that's true about some women too, Ben. {{{{{{Ben}}}}}}

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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 11:25:08 AM   
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RE: Magdaleine's Alabaster Atrium - 7/31/2008 5:13:35 PM   
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He came through the door, out of the marketplace in a wheelchair, moving backwards with only his feet for propulsion. In his hand he held a board that said, “Please talk to me. I can hear.” I can see now that the other side is an alphabet board that he uses for communicating. He must be about 50 with a thick mop of curly brown hair and if I had to guess, I’d say he has cerebral palsy. A young 20-something woman, sitting at the edge of a small fountain began to talk to him and I sat here, watching them. They are strangers but she showed much love and car in her face and mannerisms and I saw that she made him laugh. Now he’s moved under the canopy, watching a couple of young men assemble a stage. Surely being here, with all the people, is better than being alone at home.

Another wheelchair passes. This man is about the same age, very clean cut and evidently very athletic. His feet are strapped to the foot rest but his hands are gloved and he has no trouble moving across the plaza.

To my left, in the distance, beside a waterfall fountain (I can see five different fountains from where I sit) and against the retaining wall in front of Johnston Terminal stands a young boy under the Busk Stop, playing his violin, case open on the ground. One man in light, monochrome pants and shirt detours to put a coin or two into the violin case. A mother with her baby in stroller sits on the concrete edge around another fountain, relaxing against a large pillar as she listens. More people give the boy money. He plays well—fast jigs from Atlantic Canada.

At the table just ahead of me and to the left sits an old woman in a narrow wheelchair that can be moved only by being pushed from behind. Her daughter sits with her, helping her to eat, adjusting the napkin under her chin to keep her nice clothes fresh and unstained.

A young father walks behind his 4-year-old son who’s learning to use a collapsible scooter. When the boy fumbles, Dad gives him pointers and after the boy sets off again, Dad follows pointing his cell phone camera at the boy. This is a growing moment worthy of being recorded.

The weather is perfect for me—more on the cool side than on the hot, with clear skies and the faintest of breezes. I’m in a large corner shaded by The Forks Market and three young trees about 20 feet tall. To my right is a short wall of sorts with potted pansies, geraniums and petunias adding to the colour of the place.

Now that the stage has been assembled, a ten-ton truck has pulled up onto the plaza, followed by an ancient panel van repainted in flat brown. The truck is unloading sound equipment. I think there's going to be a concert here--probably not until after I leave.


The radio and TV have been giving reports of a horrific event that occurred last night on the Trans-Canada Highway less than an hour and a half west of Winnipeg. A Greyhound bus was carrying 37 passengers. Near the back a young man was sleeping. Without warning, the sleeping man's seatmate, a stranger, pulled a large knife and began to stab him.

A man sitting in the seat directly in front of the two, turned to see what was happening. He quickly got up, went to the front of the bus to tell the driver who quickly pulled over to the shoulder and stopped. All the passengers but the two with the knife managed to exit the bus in a calm manner while the man with the knife continued to stab the man beside him.

A trucker had stopped and, arming himself, the driver and the man who had alerted the driver, returned to the bus in the hopes of saving the victim. They were too late. He had been decapitated (and, not reported on the radio I listened to, but overhearing someone passing by me here outside, the murderer may have held up the severed head to show the passengers. The three tool-armed men, seeing that they could not save the one man, determined to keep the assailant on the bus so that he could harm no one else. The reporter said that the man did his killing very calmly and matter-of-factly with no emotion. He tried to escape but the three men held him in until the RCMP arrived.

I listened to the RCMP report from this afternoon. The passengers were taken to a different city where they were given accomodation, meals and crisis counselling. The RCMP said that even seasoned officers would have trouble coping with what these people saw.

What would prompt someone to do something like this? His seat mate was sleeping! He was doing nothing to offend or aggravate the man. A young girl is living in my mom's basement. She went upstairs to tell my mom what had happened and is seemingly rather traumatized. She was planning a Greyhound trip to the West Coast. Now she's not going anywhere near a Greyhound bus. How do the 35 witnesses deal with the pain and trauma? They were all brought to Winnipeg this afternoon to continue their journeys. Can you get back on a bus after something like that and just continue your vacation? What about the six-year-old boy who was on the bus with his mom? Lord, have mercy! Christ, have mercy!

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