RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initially?
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/4/2008 9:40:16 PM
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It is not for me to accept your apology, but I do anyway. I thank you for it. But you were not the only one, and I was becoming exasperated with the disrespect shown to the question. I, too, apologize.
Now, I understand how the young fighter felt when he asked a seious question which I did not take serioously, and we started bouncing around his thread with our brands of humor.
Yeah. I have my moments, when I could get out of line. I appreciate the setting straight. With just a few words, I realized I made a mistake.
I stopped coming on forums like this for what people say, and for what people don't say. But like I said, I should know better than to just blurt out a response without reading all the way through.
My apology was also for Giulia.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted to be worshipped in the... - 5/4/2008 10:43:11 PM
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You know for there to be a woman with the moon under her feet in revelation implies there was a problem with the moon being over her in the first place, at first I thought it may be representing all earthly things under her feet, that posed another question: why wasn't it the earth under her feet?
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RE: Why do you think God wanted us to worship Him at th... - 5/5/2008 9:41:27 PM
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...people were to worship God at the new moon and I am wondering why that was special and a requirement?
It is obvious it has a special significance, just like the way the Holy place and Holy of Holies was set up to the requirement so this was a requirement, do you think the people's prayers were more pure then?
There's a very good explanation of the moon's significance in regard to the OT system of worship. Worship during the time of the Old Covenant was governed by the lesser light of the moon (the law). External worship of God was reckoned according to the way of the moon. It was a glorious light that illuminated the way of men through the darkness of this world, but, like the moon, it was only a veiled reflection of the true light that shines but wasn't yet visible (Christ). The reflection of that greater light (Christ) seen in the moon (the law) was soon coming into the world.
The law was a lovely light that shone, but, like the moon, it could not dispel all of the darkness of men. Only in the sunlight (Christ) is 'there no darkness at all'. And now that morning has broken (Christ has risen) the true light is shining, and now worship of God is reckoned according to the Son, not the lesser light of the law.
The significance of the moon as a symbol is found in it's quality and timing of light, not in the physical effects the moon has on the earth that you spoke of, but I'm always open to greater understanding of this illustration.
Hope this explanation is easy to grasp. There are scriptures that help develop the understanding of this illustration. I recently shared this in the Law Keeping thread, but sadly, many people don't go there because of the fighting.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted us to worship Him at th... - 5/5/2008 11:33:22 PM
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to my understanding, the new moon represents the new church. Don't quote or believe this is my belief, but was told it reprents the bride of Christ
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The sun represents the groom Himself...
"...the sun, 5 which is like a bridegroom coming forth from his pavilion, like a champion rejoicing to run his course. 6 It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other; nothing is hidden from its heat." (Psalm 19)
What an apt description of the Son of God.
And we the Church are like the stars which "give light on the earth" (Genesis 1:16). And Paul admonishes us to be "blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe as you hold out the word of life" (Phil 2:15-16)
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/6/2008 7:04:05 AM
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1. Why do you think God wanted to us to worship in the new moon initially (before they started mocking it with their actions)?
2. Can you draw any truth from science like the dust coming from the moon and influencing us in some way?
Guess that may say something in itself as if the moon has any influence over our total surrender to Him?????
1 - God wants us to rember Him at all times and in everything we do. As that was the way the months were calculated, He wanted us to start every day, every month, every year by remembering HIM. It is the same as giving thanks when we eat.
2 - NO.
Lunar influence has been picked up by that other guy, NOT GOD.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/6/2008 8:47:50 AM
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I will say again that the Presence of Jesus is higher than the sun or moon. I still know both the sun and moon have influence over life and I still think there is some other significance, yet to find it but looking  .
I have 4 kids, so I know all about the influence of the moon. It's no accident that our maternity wards get busy around the full moon.
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I can also see that this is one the very edge of being heretical. I think amongst it is truth and I think the moon has a marked effect on us as I would think most of you would also think seeing the tides are controlled by the moon for starters.
We are largely composed of water, is it not a possibility there could be some truth we have not discovered, or that we have discovered but failed to incorporate into our theology?
There's no doubt about the moon's influence on the earth. But I'm not aware of anything about the moon that God intended to use to illustrate deeper spiritual truth outside of it's use as a time piece to mark the passing of the times and seasons of man, and the fact that it's a reflector of light, not the actual source of the light. And like Dave said, it seems many of the aspects of the moon are the playground of the enemy. But like I say, I'm open to any understanding I can get about God from the ways of the physical world around us.
Oh, by the way, maybe the moon under the feet of the woman in Rev. 12 is to be understood as more of a foundation. I haven't really thought much about it before.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/6/2008 11:20:01 AM
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Please do not attempt to over-spiritualize things. It is what it is.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/7/2008 12:26:28 PM
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Scientific observation of the moon and its effects have absolutely nothing to do with our walk with the Lord.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/8/2008 2:34:27 AM
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The sunshine does, the air does, Jesus thought food did otherwise He would not have fed the 5,000. Gravity affects us as well.
Scientific observations are observations of what God has done, for me it is stengthening to know these.
Don't think it's healthy to limit our walk to the Spiritual as that would make us much like the gnostics. I think our walk should be in the physical as well and seeing this world was put here for our benefits it is good to know what those are exactly.
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/8/2008 8:53:36 AM
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Don't think it's healthy to limit our walk to the Spiritual as that would make us much like the gnostics. I think our walk should be in the physical as well and seeing this world was put here for our benefits it is good to know what those are exactly.
Good to know that the moon is made of dust, just like us.
With tons of scientific knowledge, however, our life on earth is still painful, still ending in dust.
What good is all the knowledge we acquired all through our earthly life at the very end of our life on earth?
What knowledge can you take beyond your grave, beyond the dusty moon if you can go further than earth?
My take on the moon is this;
The moon reminds me of Jesus whom we can see directly and as long as possible without harming our eyes like the sun does.
The sun can be likened as God the father whom no one can see and live.
The full moon looks very warm, friendly and merciful.
Under the moonlight, you don't see dust on anything or anyone.
No one under the moonlight looks ugly but beautiful.
If you don't have a pretty face, have a date only under the full mood- you will surely can have a romantic relationship.
The moon also remind me of grace, not to see dust on anyone but to see all beautiful, unlike under the sun and being exposed of all the infirmity you have and I have.
Under the moon, you don't have to wear 'makeups'.
Y'see, the moon is so much like Jesus.
Do I sound like a Gnosis?
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RE: Why do you think God wanted new moon worship initia... - 5/10/2008 9:18:45 PM
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Y'see, the moon is so much like Jesus.
Do I sound like a Gnosis?
the moon is a lesser light. only a reflector. Jesus has been given the name above all names. He was before creation. in Him is no shadow. He is the source, not a reflection.
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without being fully informed 
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), my family also doesn't like it much. 
The moon that time is under my feet, even if I have got my monthlies. 
