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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

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COMMENTING ON GEN 1:26 ". . .And therefore God himself not only undertakes to make, but is pleased so to express himself, as if he called a council to consider of the making of him; Let us make man - The three persons of the Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, consult about it, and concur in it; because man, when he was made, was to be dedicated and devoted to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
—Wesley's Commentary"

While I certainly don't see such a view as heretical by any stretch of the imagination, I feel it commits to all too common error of ignoring the fact that the Old Testament was written to an Old Testament audience. There is nothing, I repeat, nothing, in the original language to suggest the members of the Godhead. I again state that I have not heard a single valid argument against the "us" referring to the heavenly host.

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What about the truth that man is not made in the image of the angels? "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him" (Gen 1:27) Note that this does not say "God created man in His image, and in the image of the angels, in the image of God and the angels He created him." God says ""Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;" and then proceeds to say that man is made solely in the image of God, with no mention of the angels.

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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

Well, that all has to do with the question, "What is the image of God?" I seriously doubt that it is a physical-appearance thing, since we don't look a thing like the Holy Spirit. Rather, I believe it has to do with a number of inner characteristics that set us above animal life. Unfortunately, Scripture never explicitly tells us what the image really means. Obviously it is important, since it is because we are created in God's image that murder is forbidden (Genesis 9:6).
Regardless, I find no problem with the idea of angelic beings sharing certain characteristics with us, and some of those shared characteristics are what makes up the image. So, if I may butcher for a moment with a very, very loose paraphrase, I can picture God calling the heavenly hosts around Him so that they can share in the highlight of the 6-day creation - us. He says to the angels, "I'm going to make man, and he will be in my image. You are also in my image. So come, let's make man. I'll do the creating, you can all sit back and watch, because it'll be very good. I will make him in the my image, the image we share, and the image that now you will also share with man." Ya' know, something like that.

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That requires too much speculation for my tastes.

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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

No, we're not. We are not triune.

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COMMENTING ON ISA. 6:8 ". . .God asked, Whom shall I send? And who will go for Us? The word “Us” in reference to God hints at the Trinity (cf. “Us” in Gen. 1:26; 11:7). This doctrine, though not explicit in the Old Testament, is implicit for God is the same God in both Testaments. . .
—Bible Knowledge Commentary (Dallas Theological Seminary)"

I like how it gives no solid argument for their statements. Perhaps you would do better to seek a more exegetical commentary . . .

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We are the "IMAGE" (picture-type) of the Triune God.

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LOL, now how is it on a site made up of mostly Evangelicals you seem to know very little about what Dallas Theological Seminary is known for. They have for decades been know as one of the finest Evangelical Seminarys in the land. Dr. John F. Walvoord is a graduate, Dr. Chuck Swindoll is a graduate, as well as several other well known Evangelical Pastors. Dr. Merrill Unger was Professor of OT Studies, etc. Bible Knowledge Commentary is concidered one of the best, Biblically sound Commentaries around.

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ORIGINAL: Stormcrow

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Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

I haven't dismissed creeds. Merely point out that they have substituted personal scholarship.

When you trust a creed you are trusting someone else's scholarship and trusting man rather than God.

On the first point, "they have substituted personal scholarship" that's a pretty broad brush with which you're painting. My personal scholarship tells me these are right on. Does my agreement with them in the basics of the Christian faith and dogma mean that I am less scholarly than you?

Methinks you presume too much.

On the second point, "When you trust a creed you are trusting someone else's scholarship and trusting man rather than God." do you presume that you're "personal scholarship" is greater and more sanctified than anyone else's? Let's look at your position another way:

Your major premise is that "trusting man' scholarship is evil." So we are not to trust anyone's scholarship. But then you argue that "personal scholarship is good."

Hmmm...If trusting man's scholarship is evil, but trusting your own is good, then either you're not a member of the human race, or it's OK to trust "some" human scholarship, at which point you become the final arbiter of that which is trustworthy and that which is not.

In either case, you're arguing from a position of hubris, not humility.

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ORIGINAL: Heavendweller

Stormcrow,
This is one of the most common sense posts I've read on Crosswalk. Thank you. So good to know that there are Christians out there who still consider the Creeds to be orthodox in nature, which defend the truth of the Christian faith, especially regarding the nature of God. I'm astonished at the increasing number of Evangelicals who cast the Creeds along the wayside or worse yet, discard them completely.

Heavendweller

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ORIGINAL: Hismusicgal

Scholars don't have a solid answer on this subject either. We were discussing this in Biblical Hermeneutics II class a couple of weeks ago. There are several ideas. The original writings are not conclusive. With time gaps in translation it is possible that not everything comes through as the human author intended, but we need to remenber it might be God's intention But why are we questioning the Bible? If God wants us to know He would let us know but just maybe this is one of the things that we will not be told here on earth or ever for that matter.

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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

I've heard that this is probably not a direct reference to other members of the godhead. At the very least, that wasn't the human author's original intent, seeing as how the authors of the Old Testament had no real concept of the trinity that we know of.