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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 7:47:59 PM   
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Yeah, Antz is a kids movie, and I won't let my kids watch it. It has the D Word in it! I usually just watch the movie beforehand. We copied our DVDs to the computer, and Robert used a program to edit out scenes I don't like in Cars, Madagascar, Ant Bully, and a couple others. Shark Tales...there was just too much int here to edit it, so into the trash it went.


I'd really like to know more about the program that you use. We have a Clearplay DVD player that really gets most of the stuff we don't want our kids to see in those cartoon movies, but our standards for our children are of course higher than those of whomever watches the movies there and decides what should/should not be taken out. So, this would be really great for those things that it doesn't get that hubby and I would rather our kids not see/hear. It still baffles me as to why they feel as if they have to put unacceptable language in a kids movie?! They could use acceptable words and get the point across jsut as well.

We are pretty high on censoring for our children. My parents weren't for me, but hubby's did for him. I haven't let my children see any of the Shrek movies...and they don't ever watch Spongebob. A student came to class one day and said a bad word. I wrote her mother and told her. She said that she had gotten the word off of the movie "Shrek," but they didn't realize it was in there until they sat down with her and watched it. It has a lot of overtones and stuff too...things that my kids don't get, but would likely repeat to people who would "get it." Against my better judgement, I let some children watch Spongebob once, and after that, said I'd never let any child watch it in my presence again...and thus far, I haven't...especially my own.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 8:35:59 PM   
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Yeah, Antz is a kids movie, and I won't let my kids watch it. It has the D Word in it! I usually just watch the movie beforehand. We copied our DVDs to the computer, and Robert used a program to edit out scenes I don't like in Cars, Madagascar, Ant Bully, and a couple others. Shark Tales...there was just too much int here to edit it, so into the trash it went.


I'd really like to know more about the program that you use. We have a Clearplay DVD player that really gets most of the stuff we don't want our kids to see in those cartoon movies, but our standards for our children are of course higher than those of whomever watches the movies there and decides what should/should not be taken out. So, this would be really great for those things that it doesn't get that hubby and I would rather our kids not see/hear. It still baffles me as to why they feel as if they have to put unacceptable language in a kids movie?! They could use acceptable words and get the point across jsut as well.

just wanted to point out that it is against the law to edit things like that....copyright infringement. You could receive a fine or jail time if caught (in the US...not sure what other countries laws are)

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 8:52:33 PM   
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Does this need to get a new thread now ZoeBob? I don't want to step on toes and make one. I always feel funny about that :)

Ruth- you take it easy you here?

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 8:55:16 PM   
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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 8:58:10 PM   
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just wanted to point out that it is against the law to edit things like that....copyright infringement. You could receive a fine or jail time if caught (in the US...not sure what other countries laws are)


Yikes! I didn't know that. I thought that if you bought it, it was yours and you could do whatever you wanted to with it, as long as you used it in your own home. Wow.

So, with what our DVD player does...the Clearplay...I guess they had to get some sort of permission to edit and/or "alter" the movie in anyway, huh? Hmmm...I never thought about that...

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 9:11:53 PM   
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according to clearplay's website...the program doesn't edit movies,it simply skips or mutes.
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Wow! How does that work?
It's really quite ingenious. We create filtering information on a movie by movie basis, and then put those "filters" into the DVD player. This way, the DVD player knows when to skip or mute while the movie is playing.


Taken from HERE

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 10:41:44 PM   
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just wanted to point out that it is against the law to edit things like that....copyright infringement. You could receive a fine or jail time if caught (in the US...not sure what other countries laws are)


Yikes! I didn't know that. I thought that if you bought it, it was yours and you could do whatever you wanted to with it, as long as you used it in your own home. Wow.

So, with what our DVD player does...the Clearplay...I guess they had to get some sort of permission to edit and/or "alter" the movie in anyway, huh? Hmmm...I never thought about that...

yeah that one is touchy...they haven't been shut down yet probably because of what Sandy posted from their site...how they go about doing it. If you were to put that dvd into a regular dvd player it wouldn't be altered in any way, so that's probably how they get away with it.I know other companies that would sell edited versions were shut down a few years ago because of CR laws.
When you buy something you are not buying the rights to it...that's why they always play that "Federal Law Says..." at the beginning of everything. You are simply buying a copy of it, but no the rights to it...only the maker of it or the person/company that holds the copyright on it (because they can be sold) has the right legally to change anything in it.


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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 10:48:36 PM   
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Hey all!

Wow VisitorinWaiting, I hope your family has a better night tonight.

It was a good day in the zmanfan house. GB and I played and she helped me clean the house a bit. I sold our extra microwave and cart (thank you, Lord). We needed those outta the kitchen. And choir rehearsal tonight was just fabulous! I just our church.

Now hubby and GB are asleep and I'm getting some computer time.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 10:51:39 PM   
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Well, it's almost midnight, I was in bed, but I couldn't sleep. Ugh, I have to get up at 5:00am! I just checked on my little man, checked the weather, and now I should back to bed.
Have a great weekend ladies!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 10:52:42 PM   
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Hi and goodnight, Yolanda!

Hope you sleep well!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/23/2008 11:06:33 PM   
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I watched Titanic with my mom when I was 17 and she still fast forwarded the inappropriate parts.


Now, that cracked me up a little. I can't imagine my mom actually fast forwarding through parts of a movie when I was 17. By then I was on my own a lot, and could pretty much watch whatever I wanted.



LOL, yeah, but now that I'm older I appreciate that she did that because a 17 year old unmarried girl (with raging hormones) shouldn't have those pictures in her head. It's just not healthy and I'm thankful for my mom's protection.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 12:57:32 AM   
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Yeah, Antz is a kids movie, and I won't let my kids watch it. It has the D Word in it! I usually just watch the movie beforehand. We copied our DVDs to the computer, and Robert used a program to edit out scenes I don't like in Cars, Madagascar, Ant Bully, and a couple others. Shark Tales...there was just too much int here to edit it, so into the trash it went.


I'd really like to know more about the program that you use. We have a Clearplay DVD player that really gets most of the stuff we don't want our kids to see in those cartoon movies, but our standards for our children are of course higher than those of whomever watches the movies there and decides what should/should not be taken out. So, this would be really great for those things that it doesn't get that hubby and I would rather our kids not see/hear. It still baffles me as to why they feel as if they have to put unacceptable language in a kids movie?! They could use acceptable words and get the point across jsut as well.

just wanted to point out that it is against the law to edit things like that....copyright infringement. You could receive a fine or jail time if caught (in the US...not sure what other countries laws are)


ARG! I shoulda known! I don't condone his pirating, and I ask him to not get stuff for me or the kids that way. I just asked him what he did to edit the DVDs, and he said he pirated a ripper that will rip copyrighted DVDs.

Well, I dunno what to do now. I dunno if I should keep my edited copies or just get out the originals. He made the movies PERFECT!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 7:32:40 AM   
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Ah, the inlaws are here, and Nathan did not have a good night. Time to get some coffee (only a cup, I know I'm pregnant).

Nathan still buries his head in my shoulder whenever FIL is around, but he's reasonably tolerant of MIL if dad or I are in the room. We're going to gym class this morning, and I hope it goes well. I'm not supposed to pick him up to much, and he doesn't like grandparents picking him up.

But he does like it when that really cute gym helper picks him up. (Seriously, she's about 24 and very good looking, but Nathan probably only cares that she's very friendly and non-threatening to him, plus she's extremely good at putting nervous children at ease.)

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 8:13:35 AM   
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(((Ruth))) I wonder why he doesn't warm up to them so easily. Poor guy!

My parents were strict with what we watched on television and some of it still has stuck with me as an adult. The got more lenient as we became teenagers, but they still monitored what we watched on television. Hubby's parents were not strict with what he watched, but we are on the same page now that we are adults. We will be very strict with what Hunter watches especially with what children are exposed to today. I worry about when he goes to friends house and if their parents do not monitor their television watching. But, I have a while before that I guess.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 8:45:00 AM   
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Nathan doesn't care much for TV now, with one exception. He loves Curious George. It's crazy, I swear, but if he's real fussy, or I'm not feeling well, then Curious George it is. I do try to limit his TV, though.

I would only become concerned about TV at a friend's house if the shows he were watching were a consistent problem. By that, I mean if he caught 20 minutes of Pirates of the Caribbean, and I wasn't planning on letting him watch that for another 2 years, I won't make a huge deal of it and end the friendship. I plan on talking to his friends' parents and just keeping an open line of communication about what we do and don't approve.

If it were something really serious like Silence of the Lambs, then I'd take more drastic action. As he gets old enough for sleepovers (which I will allow with some conditions), then Nathan and I will have long talks about what to do if he's pressured into something (like music or a movie) that he knows isn't allowed and he's on his own at the sleepover.

I am not in favor of super-sheltering my son just because someone might pressure him to watch the Godfather, but we will talk early and often about how to handle peer pressure and what we expect of him. I plan to equip him to face pressure, not prevent him from joining youth groups or sleepovers just because something bad might happen.

I'm not saying this as a criticism of anyone else's parenting style. We all gotta do what we think is right. I'm just talking about my own feelings and thoughts.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 9:26:56 AM   
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Nathan doesn't care much for TV now, with one exception. He loves Curious George. It's crazy, I swear, but if he's real fussy, or I'm not feeling well, then Curious George it is. I do try to limit his TV, though.


So does Isabel! She's watching it now, actually. She loves "Joooj" (George). LOL!

I need to get up and sweep the floors/do the dishes. I'm having company this afternoon. I'm a small group leader this year for our Bible study for moms, and each small group has a mentor leader (with a solid marriage and grown children), so my group mentor is coming over today to visit, I'm so looking forward to it!

eta: Isaac has become so independent over the last several weeks and it sure is nice. He's growing up so much. He can now dress himself, which is helpful, I don't have to stop what I'm doing 101 times a day and put his underwear/pants on him after he uses the bathroom, LOL. He is a kiddo who drinks a lot (always has) and now he can use the stepladder to get himself a drink of water at the kitchen sink, I just have to set a cup out for him, which I do in the morning, and he uses the cup all day. That is wonderful. If I push his toys into a pile, I tell him to go put these things away and he can do it himself. I can give him some of his laundry and tell him to put these away and he knows where it goes. So nice!!!!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 9:48:37 AM   
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Ruth - Akeelah is the same way around my husband's parents, she's warming up to my MIL (if she has juice or cookies to give her) but she still cries around my FIL. It actually used to be the reverse. It makes me feel bad because she has no problems around my parents.

It's almost 10 am and Akeelah is still asleep! She didn't take a nap yesterday and we didn't force her to, because we figured that we would go to Bible class at 7 and then come home and she would be really tired and go to bed right away.

Only Bible Class led into a church meeting which led into Lord's Supper service which led to us coming home at 10:30. She was so overtired and misbehaving and hyper. It didn't help that I had an awful headache. Oh well, new day, I got to sleep, she slept in so things are much better!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 11:31:03 AM   
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Judah doesn't care much for tv or movies at our house - other than The Incredibles. He will watch that over and over again Or at least parts of it.

Last week Paul took him to the Dollar Theater and he lasted an hour and a half sitting there watching Speed Racer. I couldn't believe he sat through the movie for so long!
If any short kid movies come to the Theater we'll take him for sure.

Paul and I (and Wesley!) went to see the new Batman movie last night - Batman is my favorite super hero! I loved it!!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 4:44:58 PM   
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Well, I have to say, I've seen a significant difference since breakfast this morning. Nathan isn't totally cool with his grandparents, but he's a lot better. He played with them outside without either parent present, and he laughed and giggled when his grandpa pushed him on the swing. He still will sometimes get upset if Greg or I leave the room, but it's a lot better.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 6:49:25 PM   
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That's good Ruth, how long are they staying for? LOL when you said super cute instructor I was thinking of a male

Grace loves tv, she watches quite a few shows but she knows when to turn it off (if there are witches etc). Nath is a tv head too, he loves adverts mainly, and the Wiggles.

Jessica is Batman really dark? It looks scary a bit!

Hubby has been put onto day/night shift which I am NOT happy about. Its just going to stuff things up around here.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 7:58:45 PM   
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Inlaws are leaving Monday morning, but I had an encounter with MIL this afternoon, and I would like y'all's opinion on my actions (because the Lord well knows I've been wrong before .)

Inlaws, dH, myself, Nathan and 3yo niece were at our house. BIL and SIL were not present. MIL wants niece to try going to the potty. I had just laid out paper and crayons for niece to color. Niece did not want to potty, she wanted to color.

MIL decided to make a fight of it, and told niece she could not draw until she'd sat on the potty. Niece is extremely stubborn and independent, and it all escalated into a prolonged crying, screaming fit. The more you try to force niece to potty, the more she digs in her heels and holds it in (she'd already peed within the last 2 hours and MIL knew it). Niece has gotten infections from holding it in.

I know for a fact BIL and SIL use positive reinforcement only. They ask and encourage her to potty, but do not attach threats or punishment of any kind. So far this has worked very well. I got a little ticked at what MIL was doing (she was being pretty mean), and I informed MIL that BIL and SIL do not use threats with the potty, and that what MIL was doing was not in line with BIL and SIL's parenting style.

Well, niece eventually won, and MIL was ticked at me for interfering with her authority over niece. Poor niece was already grouchy and tired, and after this prolonged fit we returned to BIL and SIL's house for dinner, where niece got a whoppin' from her dad for misbehaving at the dinner table.

So, should I have backed grandma up? Should I have kept my mouth shut? Or was I right to step in when I saw grandma doing something that niece's parents would not approve of?

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 9:11:44 PM   
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I think the way you handle it was very respectful and I don't see where you did anything wrong. I really wish I had the ability to speak up more than what I do. Go you!

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 9:28:44 PM   
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Yeah I think you were right as long as your little niece didn't hear the discussion, Ruth. MIL doesn't have any more authority than you, right? I came from a large close extended family, and there was a hierarchy. Mom was at the top, grandma was 2nd, great aunt was 3rd then my uncles and aunts.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 9:34:49 PM   
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Well, niece might've heard it, but she was already kinda hysterical by that time, and I don't know if she understood what I was saying. I'm not sure how I could've gotten MIL away at that point.

I don't think my family has a hierarchy, except that in that case, I knew what BIL and SIL wanted and grandma didn't. But speaking up when niece might've overheard could've been a bad move on my part. At the time, I just wasn't sure what else to do.

This isn't the first time MIL has bungled discipline with my niece, but the first time I kept quiet, and I've been kicking myself ever since.

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RE: SAHM Support Part II - 7/24/2008 10:10:05 PM   
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Sideways, I'm all for how you handled it. You tried to diffuse the escalating situation and you were kind and respectful, not pushing your values on them, but reminding them of the child's parent's values.

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