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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/4/2008 6:16:53 PM
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I had ask you a question, and you evidently did not notice it; so I will ask again;
Julius, do you think that Obama's movements, swinging his arms, his hair line, and his ears resemple Curious George?
Thsnks
RC
I saw it, I answered it but lightshineon saw it before you did and justifiably scolded me in her post 397 for being too harsh. I re-read it, determine she was right, so I deleted it. I'm refuse to take your bait, preacher. Go fishing somewhere else.
- Julius
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/4/2008 6:19:20 PM
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Julius, do you think that Obama's movements, swinging his arms, his hair line, and his ears resemple Curious George?
The fact that you are asking this obnoxious question simply demonstrates how ignorant you are as to racist stereotypes.
But then again, this is coming from the same person who called black people "negroids" on this same thread.
He wants someone to call him a racist. Then he can claim victory.
- Julius
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/4/2008 7:21:44 PM
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Julius, do you think that Obama's movements, swinging his arms, his hair line, and his ears resemple Curious George?
The fact that you are asking this obnoxious question simply demonstrates how ignorant you are as to racist stereotypes.
But then again, this is coming from the same person who called black people "negroids" on this same thread.
Why would you think that is an obnoxious question?
And black folks are of the negroid race, just as white folks are of the caucasian race,
Why would calling someone by their proper race designation be racist.
And I would never refer to Obama as negroid because he is mullato.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/4/2008 10:02:29 PM
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Why would you think that is an obnoxious question?
And black folks are of the negroid race, just as white folks are of the caucasian race,
Why would calling someone by their proper race designation be racist.
And I would never refer to Obama as negroid because he is mullato.
Because you ain't saying the human race!
You still see color.
I'm part of Jesus's family.
He's a beautiful blue today.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 10:26:46 AM
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Why would you think that is an obnoxious question?
And black folks are of the negroid race, just as white folks are of the caucasian race,
Why would calling someone by their proper race designation be racist.
And I would never refer to Obama as negroid because he is mullato.
Because you ain't saying the human race!
You still see color.
I'm part of Jesus's family.
He's a beautiful blue today.
Tracy,
I am going to agree with you in kind. I think there are tow kinds of folks in the world; Christians and non-Christians, and that is the actuality of the way I see the world.
And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
I also had no problem with the t-shirt that pointed out the simularities between George W. Bush and "What me Worry" Alfred E. Neuman.
Thanks
RC
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 10:47:46 AM
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And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
I also had no problem with the t-shirt that pointed out the simularities between George W. Bush and "What me Worry" Alfred E. Neuman.
What you completely fail to recognize is that Alfred E. Newman has never historically been used as a racist symbol or stereotype.
Monkeys and apes have (versus African-Americans).
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 10:51:59 AM
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What you completely fail to recognize is that Alfred E. Newman has never historically been used as a racist symbol or stereotype.
Monkeys and apes have (versus African-Americans).
So why not break that stereotype?
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Vote Obama, he is half white, how bad can he be?
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 11:04:07 AM
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Because you ain't saying the human race!
But hasn't the whole point of this thread been to separate blacks from the human race? And almost every attempt to make us one people, one blood, in this thread has been met with a firm rejection.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 11:08:13 AM
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But hasn't the whole point of this thread been to separate blacks from the human race? And almost every attempt to make us one people, one blood, in this thread has been met with a firm rejection.
Modern liberalism thrives on racsim, cannot survive without it and will create it where it is not
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 11:36:35 AM
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Has anyone personaly seen anyone wear this shirt? I have not, so it is a non-issue.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 1:21:50 PM
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And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
I also had no problem with the t-shirt that pointed out the simularities between George W. Bush and "What me Worry" Alfred E. Neuman.
What you completely fail to recognize is that Alfred E. Newman has never historically been used as a racist symbol or stereotype.
Monkeys and apes have (versus African-Americans).
And who's working hard to keep these stereotypes alive and in our faces??? Here's a hint: it's not the white race.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 1:34:54 PM
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Darlene, I partially agree, but there are an awful lot of white liberals also feeding at the trough.
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And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
I also had no problem with the t-shirt that pointed out the simularities between George W. Bush and "What me Worry" Alfred E. Neuman.
What you completely fail to recognize is that Alfred E. Newman has never historically been used as a racist symbol or stereotype.
Monkeys and apes have (versus African-Americans).
And who's working hard to keep these stereotypes alive and in our faces??? Here's a hint: it's not the white race.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 2:43:48 PM
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Do any of you own the shirt? not me. I do not even have a normal CG shirt, though I think he is very cute, and because of CG, I got an award in the second grade, he pushed my reading over the two hundred books mark got a certificate. You know the one where he breaks his arm, and the man with the big yellow hat, takes him to the hospital.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 2:46:50 PM
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Personally, to compare BO with CG, is a slap in the face to CG! I think the CG people should sue for libel and slander.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 2:50:23 PM
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Yeah, I am really hoping and I am serious that it does not become pc to hate CG.
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Personally, to compare BO with CG, is a slap in the face to CG! I think the CG people should sue for libel and slander.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/5/2008 3:33:00 PM
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What you completely fail to recognize is that Alfred E. Newman has never historically been used as a racist symbol or stereotype.
Monkeys and apes have (versus African-Americans).
And if you and other liberals have their way every time someone sees a monkey at the Zoo; they will think of a black person.
Now who is promoting racism and animal kinship; it is not me, for I do not see it that way.
So it is just more of the liberal hokey pokey hollering and saying look what they (conservitive white folks) think and really projecting what you think.
Shame on you.
Thanks
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/7/2008 12:28:07 PM
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Tracy,
I am going to agree with you in kind. I think there are tow kinds of folks in the world; Christians and non-Christians, and that is the actuality of the way I see the world.
Then ok, we agree. I don't care now what color you are! Do YOU GOT JESUS.
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And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
LOL ok RCJAmes, I will not lie, there is a small resemblence. LOL. Just acknowledge that apes were used against blacks before. Darwin? The pics. There is a racist history tied with it.
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I also had no problem with the t-shirt that pointed out the simularities between George W. Bush and "What me Worry" Alfred E. Neuman.
That is the truth too. GWB looks like him! LOL.
I also will agree that liberals do that often, I call it the "missionary mentality"
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/7/2008 3:09:28 PM
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rcjames
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And since I do see the world that way I also see nothing racist about a t-shirt that point out the many uncanny resemblences between Obama and Curious George.
LOL ok RCJAmes, I will not lie, there is a small resemblence. LOL. Just acknowledge that apes were used against blacks before. Darwin? The pics. There is a racist history tied with it.
I would certainly not have any idea what folkd did before Darwin. I can honestly say that onece and only once (before encountering the liberals on this thread) has a ssem a connection between black and monkeys.
My wife and I were at the Memphis zoo a few years past and were watching this incredible mountain gorilla named Dinga.
Nest to us was a large black faminly (probable 8-to folks) and they were laughing uncontrollable and making all kinds of referrences that their Uncle Fred looked just like Dinga, acted like the gorilla, etc. etc.
I just hought that they must have a really ugly uncle.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/8/2008 4:15:02 PM
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And if you and other liberals have their way every time someone sees a monkey at the Zoo; they will think of a black person.
So anyone who feels the Obama shirt is offensive is a reverse racist?
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Now who is promoting racism and animal kinship; it is not me, for I do not see it that way.
For the millionth time, sir, the whole objection to this shirt is connected to traditional racist imagery and stereotypes.
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So it is just more of the liberal hokey pokey hollering and saying look what they (conservitive white folks) think and really projecting what you think. Shame on you.
Incredible. Tell me, how does it feel living in another reality?
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/8/2008 4:16:10 PM
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So why not break that stereotype?
By flaunting it?
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/8/2008 5:32:23 PM
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rcjames
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For the millionth time, sir, the whole objection to this shirt is connected to traditional racist imagery and stereotypes.
And once again you err.
It is your PERCIEVED connection to traditional racist imagery and stereotypes.
You and a couple of more tree huggers are the only ones who hold to the monkey/negroid view or history; so evidently it must just be a liberal thingy, for it is certainly not mine.
Thanks
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/8/2008 10:20:02 PM
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You and a couple of more tree huggers are the only ones who hold to the monkey/negroid view or history; so evidently it must just be a liberal thingy, for it is certainly not mine.
So the whole "monkey/negroid" racist stereotype to you is some kind of alternative history that only liberals and environmentalists believe occurred?
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/9/2008 9:24:15 AM
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You and a couple of more tree huggers are the only ones who hold to the monkey/negroid view or history; so evidently it must just be a liberal thingy, for it is certainly not mine.
So the whole "monkey/negroid" racist stereotype to you is some kind of alternative history that only liberals and environmentalists believe occurred?
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Once again, I live in Alabama and I've never, ever heard anyone compare a black man, woman, or child to a monkey. You and others in this thread are the ones insisting that I accept the twisted belief that there is a resemblance and that the demeaning caricatures of blacks look like monkeys.
I submit that it is your perception that is racists, not mine.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/9/2008 10:14:38 AM
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Once again, I live in Alabama and I've never, ever heard anyone compare a black man, woman, or child to a monkey. You and others in this thread are the ones insisting that I accept the twisted belief that there is a resemblance and that the demeaning caricatures of blacks look like monkeys.
I submit that it is your perception that is racists, not mine.
I concur Jimbo.
I live in Oklahoma, have lived in Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, and many foriegn countries, and have never head a white person make the comparison.
Si it must just be a liberal thingy.
Thsnks
RC
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 6/9/2008 11:16:36 AM
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I have heard it referenced to black people as monkeys,very rarely I lived in Texas,Carolina, Arkansas, Washington State.OKlahoma.thatman, the bar owner was making this shirt for this reason, the it is repulsive. The man looks pretty redneck, though I do not know his intentions. I am for sure not a liberal, no way, no how. I do love people of all colors though. We are all just people after all none better than the other, none more chosen, or cursed. God is not a racist, nethier am I.
I recently went to North Carolina to see my inlaws who; point of fact, are Obama supporters. I was telling my MIL, about the use of the " N" word, by a little boy I keep. It was taught to him, by an old man that lives with this family. I told MIL I was taught never to say that, I grew-up in Oklahoma. My mother in law said " Shoot we used to say it all the time, and think nothing of it." She said her grand mother ' "BIGAMama", would not sit in a chair, after a black person had sit in it. That hurt me for black people, honestly, it did. I do not want anyone to ever be humilated, or looked down on. My MIL, said that is not the norm, their now, but I appreciate her honesty. My husband has never been predudice. He will say he is bringing a friend home for dinner, and has mentioned this friend by name, many times, but when they come they are AA. He has always had AA friends, though he does not have many friends, kind of guy. ( you know hang out alot with people). We met a wonderful AA man who is the manger of a waffle house in Akin SC, named John. He was young, and my husband, myself, and daughter became friends with him stopping back by on the way back to Oklahoma.
We as Christians need to pray, get on our faces before the Lord, who loves all of us the same, and ask for reconcelation between the races, and repent if we have either side offended, or were predudice ever to anyone. Back to CG, I think the person or company who has CG copyrighted, should sue, because, he is an innocent cartoon, who has good moral stories. No, I still do not like Obama, if he were pro-life, not pro gay marriage, not wanting to pull the troops out right away. Had more to say than fluff, and were Republican I would like him. 
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