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Memaw. -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/15/2008 10:20:26 PM)

#2 daughter complained of stomach ache off and on for nearly a year in the 5th grade with no other symptoms.
I thought she was just playing the "get out of school" card but after several missed days in a row I decided to take her to the doctor to find out what was going on.

She had a stomach ulcer.



dradynsmom -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 2:14:15 PM)

The rule in our school system is that if they don't have a fever of atleast 100 and haven't puked in the last eight hours you are suppose to send them to school. My child is only 15 mo. so i don't have to worry about this but I know growing up when I was in high school i had a lot of problems with stress and would puke at the drop of a hat. My mom always sent me school. I managed to get through the day and the stress. But every child is different. Oh and I still puke every time i get stressed. Just how my body handles it i guess.
Steph



zoebob -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 2:18:49 PM)

When my kids were in school they had to be fever free and puke free and if appropriate on antibiotics for 24 hrs before they could return to school.



csl7037 -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 3:40:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zoebob

When my kids were in school they had to be fever free and puke free and if appropriate on antibiotics for 24 hrs before they could return to school.


My kids schools (their preschool and this one) have always stated the "rule" as when you're allowed to send them back, not necessarily unless it's xx.x temp and puke-free then they must come back. That doesn't work for me, I'm the mom. Even if the standard was appropriate, I'd be pretty bothered if my school ever put out anything worded that way.

Dd went back to school today but I realized this morning it's Friday - PIZZA DAY! I met her at lunch and took her some noodle soup and crackers. I didn't think her first real meal in three days should be pizza! I promised her we'd have pizza at some point this weekend. She got through all of her makeup tests OK, I hope (haven't seen the two math quizzes but I don't think they'll affect her grade anyway). And today was the last day of "real" school, next week is all parties basically! Should be low stress but high on sugar content. Hopefully her tummy will get through that and we're ready for a nice long summer break!



zoebob -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 6:45:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zoebob

When my kids were in school they had to be fever free and puke free and if appropriate on antibiotics for 24 hrs before they could return to school.


My kids schools (their preschool and this one) have always stated the "rule" as when you're allowed to send them back, not necessarily unless it's xx.x temp and puke-free then they must come back. That doesn't work for me, I'm the mom. Even if the standard was appropriate, I'd be pretty bothered if my school ever put out anything worded that way.


I agree. And ours was that that's when you were allowed. To say that they must be there if they haven't had X symptoms in Y amount of time is ridiculus. I think the standards stated earlier are ridiculus too.



PrincessDonna -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 6:48:19 PM)

They have to have a policy, I think. But a parent's concern for health should always come first.



zoebob -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 6:51:12 PM)

I agree some sort of guideline is good but 8 hrs without puking. That means the kid could have been up in the middle of the night puking and still have to go to school. If school starts at 8:30 they could have been puking at midnight and still have to go to school[sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif]



garsyt -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 7:22:50 PM)

Our school's policy reads a child MUST be fever free, and not vomited for AT least 12 hours prior to returning to school, and if put on antibiotics at least 24 hours before returning.

Quite honestly I think it's a good policy. Personally, if my kids are sick enough to be running a fever and pucking then I would much rather have them HOME with me. Now I have a couple children that get upset tummies IF they don't eat a proper breakfast before getting on the school bus in the morning. One morning we had overslept and my youngest didn't eat a very good meal. She wanted to ride the bus even though I was driving in for my volunteer shift so we let her. I walked thorugh the door, the school nurse stopped me and told me that the bus driver had just called into the school that Zoe was complaining of a stomach ache and thought she was going to throw up. So here she comes through the doors and right to me. We talked a bit and discovered that the only reason her tummy was hurting was that she hadn't had a very filling breakfast and was simply hungry. So we went to the teacher's lounge and found a granola bar in the candy box. She ate that and felt good enough to go to class. She didn't have another problem all day. I can "read" my kids pretty well and can tell if it's something serious and they really aren't feeling well or if it's stress related, or if they are just trying to avoid going to school.

Blessings,

Garsy



thisistheday -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/16/2008 9:22:40 PM)

I'm glad you identified some possible causes CSL.

Hopefully common sense prevails on both sides with regard to the sick kid guidelines.

Our elem. school policy is 24 hours fever free without use of fever reducing meds. It doesn't address the vomiting. I was kind of surprised when I just now looked, but maybe it's because there can be so many causes of that.

The other week my son threw up once around ten o'clock at night. Late that evening he finally told me that his stomach had been bothering him off and on all day. I had no intention of getting him up to go to school the next morning, but he got up and said he was fine to go, so he went. He doesn't particularly like school, so I'd think he'd speak up if he shouldn't go.

Then a couple of mornings later he told me his stomach was bothering him. I suggested he stay home at least until lunch, but he said he thought he should go. He went and was fine. He is 10.

Dee



dradynsmom -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/18/2008 7:11:28 PM)

I wasn't saying that all parents abide by that rule that that is just what it states in the "rule book." I think atleast 12 hours would be better and when my child is old enough to go to school i highly doubt that i will follow that rule to a T. Nothing is better than a parents intuition.

Also OPer sorry i got your thread off topic. Why don't we all be nice and start getting on topic again. If we'd like to have a thread on sending kids to school while "sick" i'm sure that can be arranged.

Steph



locomom -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/19/2008 1:40:32 AM)

Wow! According to a lot of school's rules my daughter would have gone to school sick so often it would be ridiculous. She has had allergies and sinusitis and headaches all her life. When her sinuses made her feel bad she never ran a fever (neither do I-the last time I ran a bacterial infection high fever of 102, I was 23 yo. I'll be 49 soon.), her head hurt which you cannot see, she was in super slow motion and she'd just lay around. The problem for us was when other people sent kids sick with "just a cold" to be around her elsewhere or on a play date. Then when she got the cold, she would be sick for weeks with the sinusitis that followed. I also would get sick for about 6 weeks because of my sinuses and because I developed asthma around age 35.

My husband's former office came in when sick. They were mostly fairly young, no kids yet, still single, or just married. So they'd come in with bronchitis and the flu and give it to everyone else even though the company provided them with desktop computer systems at home on which they could easily connect to work. They also had laptop systems as these became more popular.

So what did I learn from these situations. Perfect attendance is not a badge of honor as it is presented for many people, kids and adults. It's often rewarding a child for something he doesn't control. Perfect attendance in school often means, "This child has been sent to school sick." My mil, a 20 year 5th grade teacher, saw how pointless it was to send kids in with "just a cold'. She said, "It's not as if they are in shape to learn anything." My husband I both learned to be very careful of others and to stay home when we are sick with colds. etc.

For us, the best solution was to homeschool. God provided so abundantly in her learning by overcoming our circumstances. It was so cool to do our year end report and see this. It was very hard having a child who was labeled as acting out her emotions by saying she had headaches. Funny, 10 years later she was diagnosed with migraines occurring often enough to require daily prophylactic medication. She also needed[ 5 daily allergy medications to function.



thisistheday -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/19/2008 9:50:15 AM)

The school "sick rules" specify when they don't want the child sent to school; but if I know my child is sick even though they don't have a fever or whatever I am still free to keep my child home.

Dee



Row1 -> RE: Sick/No Symptoms (5/27/2008 10:13:58 AM)

wow. this kid is facing a lot right now.
i would keep school consistent, but maybe figure out ways to get her talking about all the stuff going on.

plus let her know that when we face a lot of difficult things in life, it almost always shows up in some symptoms, and also maybe in dreams.

her father has been afraid of losing his job.
some people she knows recently died.
she has an impending dance recital.

any and all of these would give me an upset stomach.

we faced school refusal / stomach symptoms four years ago. it was always at the same time as school tests. when i figured out this pattern, and insisted that we get firm, my wife let my decision rule, despite her sympathy for the sickness, and it all worked out. i held the hard line, and these compaints disappeared. we also got more involved on following schoolwork, like knowing dates of tests, and talkign to teachers, so she would be more prepared.

whether the sickness is related or not, you could find some calm conversation time and ask her: has she been thinking about the people that died? [whether yes or no] also ask - does she have any thoughts about what happens to people when they die?

you can ask - has she been worried about her dad's job? what was she afraid would be different if he lost his job? [she might be afraid of any of a big range of things - having to move from home or from friends, having to 'go to jail' because poor, etc.] you never know what young kids think - whatever her thoughts are, you probably will be very reassuring just to talk.

also ask abt the dance: do you think you are gonna be scared about people watching you dance? maybe tell a time when you had to perform something in school, and you were scared. i remember my first piano recital (i was 10yo and all i did was play a scale and one simple song for an audience of maybe eight parents) as being very scary. really the only time i had stage fright.



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