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sunshineduck -> one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 8:05:06 AM)

do you believe that we are all worhsipping the same god, just in different ways. or do you - like my jehova friend - believe that there is only one true religion?



earthless -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 8:11:58 AM)

God has revealed Himself to all of mankind in the Bible. People can use the term 'God' and be talking about absolutely different things/persons..

Jehovah Witnesses deny the God of Scripture and are a cult that adheres to false and heretical doctrines.

It all boils down to what Jesus people are speaking about when they use that name.

Like Jesus Himself asked in Scripture - who do you say I (Jesus) am?

In a time where there are so many different belief systems and just right out strange teachings masquerading as other things. The important and most crucial question to ask someone who professes Jesus as Lord - is to ask them who exactly do they say Jesus is.

Is it the Mormon Jesus that is a created being, the brother of Satan?

Is it the Jehovah Witnesses Jesus that is the arch angel Michael? Or is a created being and not really in control of much?

Is it the New Age Jesus that is an avatar, one of many that has graced our universe?

Is it the Gnostic Jesus that was an enlightenment spirit being that didn't really have a physical body and a holder of partial wisdom?

Is it the Word of Faith Jesus that didn't atone for our sins on the cross and who could have been replaced by anyone that had revelation knowledge?

Is it the Marashi Yagesh Jesus that is a super being from the 6th dimension and reigns the fourth quadrant of the Hades Gamma cluster?

Is it the politically correct Jesus that is simply a good way of living and does not judge anyone?

Is it the Jose Luis de Miranda Jesus that had to be reincarnated by an ex-gang member Puerto Rican man that now has his followers tattoo '666' on the necks, forearms, or foreheads?

Is it the Islamic Jesus that was a great prophet, but not God, who will one day return to kill all pigs on the earth and then help out with the coordination of the judgment seat of Allah?

I could go on for at least 20 other descriptions..

Point being - when people talk about Jesus - who do they say Jesus is?



SonInMe1 -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 8:15:44 AM)

There tis only one Truth, Jesus Christ. He lived a perfect life, died as the attonement for sin who believe in Him, and was raised to life.

All else is speculation.

There are very poor christian doctrines out there....with people believing in them and having good fruit. For example I am a full attonement believer. I believe faith in Christ wipes away all my sins and I am saved, forever. Others are more works based believers who do not believe in complete attonement or salvation.

I don't think either theology will send you to hell IF you have faith in Christ and He is Lord of your life ( Talk and WALK it )



URForgiven -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 9:25:17 AM)

No, we do not all worship the same God.

The vast majority of people worship not the One true God, but a god of their own making. Which is nothing more then self worship; this is the sin man has been infected with since the garden.

Neither is there one true religion. All religions fail because they all share one common fallacy, that man can make himself acceptable to God.

Christianity is God making man acceptable to Himself, something religion can never do.

Peace



iamjc-s -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 9:33:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshineduck

do you believe that we are all worhsipping the same god, just in different ways. or do you - like my jehova friend - believe that there is only one true religion?

Neither

What God created, man messed up &/or warped. All humans at 1st wor-shipped God the Father & Creator, but that ended before Adam & Eve left Eden. For they chose to put knowledge above their relationship with God.
Now Jehovah Witnesses witness of a god that is different from the one portrayed in the Holy Bible.
Jews & Christians worship the same Father God, but do not believe the New Testament, including the part of Jesus coming as or Messiah.

2ndly, Christianity is not a religion.
It is wanting & accepting a transfer from loner to family member, a family with God as our Father & Christ as our brother, then following in big brother's (Christ's) steps.
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DaveW -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 9:48:41 AM)

As Kieth (Asher) Intrater once said: God only made one religion: ancient Judiasm; and only one way to relate to HIM: thru the death and ressurection of Jesus.



SavedByGraceMD -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/15/2008 11:23:06 AM)

Well of course, there is only one true and living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In His abundant love for us He gave us His son, Jesus the Christ, that through Him all could be saved. Anything other than that is just not truth.

I always loved the saying that religion is mans way of reaching up to God, but Jesus is Gods way of reaching down to man. Us trying to reach up to Him is futile since we can't reach much further than our faces. But Gods arms are more than capable of reaching all the way down to us lowly sinners. Thanks be to God, the one and only true and living God.



Neanderthal75 -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/23/2008 11:37:14 AM)

Hello All,

Some really great answers here; particularly when it comes to the fact that various sects and cults, teach and preach different Jesus' than He Whom is taught and found in the Bible.

Paul warned us clearly that there others would come and teach and preach a Jesus other than He about Whom Paul, Peter, and John, taught.

To be sure you believe in the Jesus of the Bible, you need to take a look at Isa. 9:6, John 14:6, and John 8:58.

Remember to look at 2 Cor. 11:4.

Cheers



terryjohn -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/23/2008 4:24:15 PM)

I beleive God has left all men of all cultures, races and languages enough information by which they may know there is a God who requires righteousness from them. Hence, as Paul says, they are without excuse. Now in Israel God has set up a beacon of light, not solely for their own benefit, that all the nations may see and know the greatness of God. And yet, we see that God has gone one step more and come and dwelt in Christ that all men may know beyond a shadow of doubt that God lives.

Hence, we then see all men desiring to know God but are incapable of drawing near simply because they either do not know Chirst or are unwilling to accept God could love them so much as to send His own son, or more importantly come in Christ Himself. You could say that, simply because men can not come unto the Father but by Christ, does not actually mean men do not have a saving faith in God. However, rejecting Christ could do more harm than not knowing about Him simply because no one told you about Him. You could also say that we may be better off not telling men about Christ, least they reject Him and thus committ the greater unforgivable sin.

Nevertheless, knowing Christ is all important and those who know Him can not keep quite about the truth in Christ.

As for religion, no one who is born of the Spirit of God can ever again be religious for why be religious in an attempt to get closer to God when God says He has come to live in us? Does not scripture say somewhere that those born of the Spirit are undefinable becasue they are like the wind that no one knows where they come from? Religion is no substitute for not knowing God's love in Christ. Religion is by definition related to bondage and it is what pagans practice.



Neanderthal75 -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/24/2008 12:21:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: terryjohn

I believe(sic) God has left all men of all cultures, races and languages enough information by which they may know there is a God who requires righteousness from them. Hence, as Paul says, they are without excuse. Now in Israel God has set up a beacon of light, not solely for their own benefit, that all the nations may see and know the greatness of God. And yet, we see that God has gone one step more and come and dwelt in Christ that all men may know beyond a shadow of doubt that God lives.

Hence, we then see all men desiring to know God but are incapable of drawing near simply because they either do not know Chirst or are unwilling to accept God could love them so much as to send His own son, or more importantly come in Christ Himself. You could say that, simply because men can not come unto the Father but by Christ, does not actually mean men do not have a saving faith in God. However, rejecting Christ could do more harm than not knowing about Him simply because no one told you about Him. You could also say that we may be better off not telling men about Christ, least they reject Him and thus com-mitt the greater unforgivable sin.

Nevertheless, knowing Christ is all important and those who know Him can not keep quite about the truth in Christ.

As for religion, no one who is born of the Spirit of God can ever again be religious for why be religious in an attempt to get closer to God when God says He has come to live in us? Does not scripture say somewhere that those born of the Spirit are undefinable becasue they are like the wind that no one knows where they come from? Religion is no substitute for not knowing God's love in Christ. Religion is by definition related to bondage and it is what pagans practice.


Hey Terry,

I just wanted to ask you to clarify something for me: you used the phrases '..dwelt in Christ..' and '..come in Christ Himself'. These statements would seem to necessarily imply that Christ is not really God, but a manifestation of God.

This flies in the face of many Scriptures including one of my faves, Isaiah 9:6-in which the Messiah is called '....the mighty God, the Everlasting Father..'

Gen. 18-19 has the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, literally having lunch with Abraham, with two of His angels sitting to 'table' with Him. Jesus told us that God the Father is a Spirit and that we must worship Him in spirit-John 4:24.

The Gospel of John, the declarative book in which the Being and Person of Christ is clearly defined as God. Proof is provided from Christ's own lips in John 8:58, when Christ cited Exodus 3:14, in His being the Great I AM.

So.....I will look forward to read your reply to my points, hoping that it was merely the turn of a phrase which went wrong on your part.

Cheers



BibleL7 -> RE: one god or one true religion (5/24/2008 5:05:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshineduck

do you believe that we are all worhsipping the same god, just in different ways. or do you - like my jehova friend - believe that there is only one true religion?


Neither, There is only one TRUE God in 3 persons the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Many believe that Christians, Jews and Muslims Worship the same God yet one look at how they define God and the name of God will show that this is not true. Though Jews are close to Christians they do not believe the Messiah has come or that Jesus is also God. The Scriptures are clear that Jesus is the only Way, Truth and Life and nobody comes to the Father but by Him. So not only one true religion but one Truth, Way and Life. Except ye be born again ye will not see the kingdom of God.



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