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"Affirmative Action" and/or Quotas are a racist policy against the ones it is suppose to "Help".

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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

It may have had some merit when it was first implemented, but after all these years, it's nothing more than reverse racism in all its full-blown liberal glory. It's meant to punish whites for the sins of some of our ancestors.
-Dave

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Also, let the record show that white women have benefited more from Affirmative Action than any racial group combined.

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

I consider AA to be a racist policy because it takes a segment of the population and declares theat "Those People" are deficient to the other folks.

The policy says that Blacks or women or whichever group cannot compete equally with others, are not as smart (a need to add points to test), more ignorant, etc. etc.

That is racism is the purest form and the AA is the protected child of liberals and demokrats.

Thanks
RC

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ORIGINAL: ken1906_4
Look at this way and this is from an African American perspective. How long has the United States of America been in existence? How long did slavery exist? What happen to many African Americans who attempted to start their own businesses and industries between reconstruction and the civil rights movement? People of color were often turned away from corporate and/or manufacturing jobs even though they were well qualified. Many were often under-valued, under-estimated and marginalized to work jobs way under their qualifications. Ever heard the phrase, “well we would like to hire you, but you are over-qualified for this position”. I’ll admit that some got pass this and became successful, but those happy endings were rare. Some who started their own companies were often faced with jealousy and racial hatred. Since you are from Oklahoma you should be familiar with the history of black Wall Street and how an entire community was bomb and burned to the ground over racial hate and jealousy. This area was not the first and it was not the last either. So when the civil rights bill was passed into law the government had to find a way to help those who have been tormented for 300+ years a way to catch up by trying to even the play field. Sir, we are only 40 years removed from this and though some progress has been made there is still a lot to do. I have quoted this more than once, “True integration is the sharing of power, resources and responsibility” and unfortunately this is has not yet been achieved. AA, help promote this.

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ORIGINAL: ken1906_4

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

I consider AA to be a racist policy because it takes a segment of the population and declares theat "Those People" are deficient to the other folks.

The policy says that Blacks or women or whichever group cannot compete equally with others, are not as smart (a need to add points to test), more ignorant, etc. etc.

That is racism is the purest form and the AA is the protected child of liberals and demokrats.

Thanks
RC

Look at this way and this is from an African American perspective. How long has the United States of America been in existence? How long did slavery exist? What happen to many African Americans who attempted to start their own businesses and industries between reconstruction and the civil rights movement? People of color were often turned away from corporate and/or manufacturing jobs even though they were well qualified. Many were often under-valued, under-estimated and marginalized to work jobs way under their qualifications. Ever heard the phrase, “well we would like to hire you, but you are over-qualified for this position”. I’ll admit that some got pass this and became successful, but those happy endings were rare. Some who started their own companies were often faced with jealousy and racial hatred. Since you are from Oklahoma you should be familiar with the history of black Wall Street and how an entire community was bomb and burned to the ground over racial hate and jealousy. This area was not the first and it was not the last either. So when the civil rights bill was passed into law the government had to find a way to help those who have been tormented for 300+ years a way to catch up by trying to even the play field. Sir, we are only 40 years removed from this and though some progress has been made there is still a lot to do. I have quoted this more than once, “True integration is the sharing of power, resources and responsibility” and unfortunately this is has not yet been achieved. AA, help promote this.


The only reason Affirmative Action is an issue is because of the misconception that it is going to take away jobs from white males. The whole misconception has even evolved to a black vs. white. That's rubbish. It is only a tool to promote diversity in the work place and institutes for higher learning. The gain has been marginal at best for ethnic races, but like I said in my earlier post the gains are very significant among white women. So the anger should not be toward African Americans, Latinos, or any other race. Maybe the anger should be toward white women who have benefited more. Many companies and/or institutions who don't meet standards of diversity are rarely penalized unless there is a record and well documented proof of blatant discrimination. I can say I have benefited from Affirmative Action but my credentials are very good and I’m well qualified to be a senior software engineer for just about any IT based company in this country. If I was around before Affirmative Action was initiated or when the civil rights bill was passed I more than likely would not have this nice job despite my credentials and qualifications.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff_from_Kentucky

Affirmative Action is racist. It calls for people to get a job based on their ethnicity and/or gender, not on their qualifications. When I call an ambulance I want the people who respond to be the best qualified for the job, not someone who got the job simply because they are considered a minority. I want the best person for the job, regardless of their gender or ethnicity.

Just over two months ago I was hired to be a police dispatcher for a local university. In order to hire me, a white male, the person making the hiring decision had to prove to the HR department that I was indeed the best qualified because HR was pushing the PD to hire a minority person because, according to AA, minorities have preference over white males.

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ORIGINAL: Closie

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ORIGINAL: Jeff_from_Kentucky

Affirmative Action is racist. It calls for people to get a job based on their ethnicity and/or gender, not on their qualifications. When I call an ambulance I want the people who respond to be the best qualified for the job, not someone who got the job simply because they are considered a minority. I want the best person for the job, regardless of their gender or ethnicity.

Just over two months ago I was hired to be a police dispatcher for a local university. In order to hire me, a white male, the person making the hiring decision had to prove to the HR department that I was indeed the best qualified because HR was pushing the PD to hire a minority person because, according to AA, minorities have preference over white males.

Did you get the job? How long did the AA process take and was there an impact on your salary or starting date because of it? Which KY governor authorized the regs to implement the guidelines for state agencies, including the universities, have to follow?

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

Question; Would Dr. Martin Luther King have been a supporter of AA?

Not according to his I have a dream speech.

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

As long as there is Affirmative Action, then the above part of his dread will not have come to pass.

Affirmative Action still judges by the color of the skin, and nt by the content of one's character.

Thanks
RC