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RE: There He Goes Again - 5/31/2008 10:15:16 PM
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saved9201
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Barack Obama just stepped down from his membership at Trinity.
Of course the haters will be saying, "Yeah, but what took him so long?"
-Julius
Exactly! It took him 20 years  His motives seem quite questionable. Anyone that cannot see through his deception is, certainly most deceived themselves.........
Very strange to me. Satan's chief means of operation is deception...We have a textbook example of it in B.O. How Christians can be swept away is so beyond me I cannot grasp it.
You know the names Obama and Satan both have 5 letters. Could this be a warning? Hmmmmmmm?
You know, I was thinking. If Obama is Satan's dude, then I guess McCain must be God's dude. So, why is everybody over here in Satan's dude's 300 or 400 threads all the time, every day, some people obviously all day? And hardly anybody is over in God's dude's two or three threads. Could it be that deep down inside, love him or hate him, people are just more intrigued by Satan's dude?
Wow, that's scary from a Christian forum.
I mean, think about it. If there was somebody you couldn't stand, who went against everything you believe in, someone you thought was an agent of the old deceiver himself, would you be charting his every move? Hanging on to every word he said, every day? I call it an obsession.
If I dispised someone as much as some of you "claim" to despise Obama, I'd change the channel every time he was on (which I do, I've never heard one complete speech of his, including his "famous" race speech. If I want to know about Obama or what he said, I come here or tune into Fox.). NOT get my notebook out so I can transcribe every syllablle to find fault in something he said.
Meanwhile, God's dude, McCain, gets little or no love.
I think, deep down inside, some of you have some hidden Obama love and you don't want to admit it cause as a Christian, you're not sposed to love people like him. I think there's some serious man-love between Sean Hannity and Obama. I bet that guy has an Obama shrine at home.
Maybe some of you do too?
Hmmmmmm.
-Julius
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RE: There He Goes Again - 5/31/2008 10:25:37 PM
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I think, deep down inside, some of you have some hidden Obama love and you don't want to admit it cause as a Christian, you're not sposed to love people like him.
-Julius
That is exactly what I mean when I post about deception 
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RE: There He Goes Again - 5/31/2008 11:24:11 PM
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Really what does it take for folks to see the light. Obama has all the wrong friends. Throws Grannie under the bus, and is so dippy, wright runs over him with the bus, puts it in reverse, and backs over him. He should have not did that to his grandmother ever. He hate the unborn, smooth as silk, people swaying and swooning. Has no plan, just empty words. Going to (supposedly pull troops out right away (Good luck with that). He is a snob, he does not care about the average black man, I bet my life on it. Old people do not trust him, give them something for wisdom. He is not experienced enough, four years as Junior senator. What does it take, complete destruction of our country? Someone take a good look at the cotton candy fluff, and apply wisdom.
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 12:03:29 AM
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Barry's Buddy
Barry went to Bill to seak his blessings on running for the Senate. And still wants to be friends with the guy. If he is buddies with a domestic terrorist, how will he treat the lslamofacists? Have them over to the White House for a state dinner?
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Nice - someone is expressing that they hope the gospel is being preached and you answer with this. Wow...what a Christian-like thing to say...unreal.
The Gospel is NOT being preached. The focus is BLT and it isn't the sandwich. And, as Christians, we are called to identify false teachers
And so, you cannot rebut the other things you accused Obama of, and now it's down to guilt by association, am I correct?
Here is what Mayor Daly has to say about Ayers:
"For months, their connection to the Democratic presidential candidate -- they hosted a gathering for him in 1995 when he first ran for the state Senate and later contributed $200 to his reelection campaign -- has been a source of growing anger among conservatives. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign picked up on the connection to suggest skeletons in Obama's closet. On Wednesday night in a televised debate with her rival, Clinton (N.Y.) mentioned it as "an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising."
In Chicago, however, Ayers is considered so mainstream that Daley issued a statement on Thursday praising him as a "distinguished professor of education" and a "valued member of the Chicago community."
"I don't condone what he did 40 years ago, but I remember that period well," said Daley, an Obama supporter whose father, Richard J. Daley, was a favorite target of the antiwar movement when he was mayor in the '60s. "It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep refighting 40-year-old battles. ..."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041703910.html?hpid=topnews
Really, is this all you have to come back with?
And about preaching the gospel - prove it that Obama's church is not preaching the gospel. And by saying that the gospel is not being preached, what are you insinuating, colliefan?
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 12:05:36 AM
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Really what does it take for folks to see the light. Obama has all the wrong friends. Throws Grannie under the bus, and is so dippy, wright runs over him with the bus, puts it in reverse, and backs over him. He should have not did that to his grandmother ever. He hate the unborn, smooth as silk, people swaying and swooning. Has no plan, just empty words. Going to (supposedly pull troops out right away (Good luck with that). He is a snob, he does not care about the average black man, I bet my life on it. Old people do not trust him, give them something for wisdom. He is not experienced enough, four years as Junior senator. What does it take, complete destruction of our country? Someone take a good look at the cotton candy fluff, and apply wisdom.
Hi lightshineon,
Please qualify all of the aforementioned with links. I don't think this is too much to ask for.
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 12:16:27 AM
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Yes Liz, tommorow, you know this is all true, it has been in the news over and over, and over. I jave driven 1350 miles today, but if you must have links will provide tommorow. How did I know you would disagree with everything I say. Love you, and your sweet but always disagree with me. I think you know these things are true, but will comply in the morning. Blessings
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Really what does it take for folks to see the light. Obama has all the wrong friends. Throws Grannie under the bus, and is so dippy, wright runs over him with the bus, puts it in reverse, and backs over him. He should have not did that to his grandmother ever. He hate the unborn, smooth as silk, people swaying and swooning. Has no plan, just empty words. Going to (supposedly pull troops out right away (Good luck with that). He is a snob, he does not care about the average black man, I bet my life on it. Old people do not trust him, give them something for wisdom. He is not experienced enough, four years as Junior senator. What does it take, complete destruction of our country? Someone take a good look at the cotton candy fluff, and apply wisdom.
Hi lightshineon,
Please qualify all of the aforementioned with links. I don't think this is too much to ask for.
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 12:31:29 AM
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lightshineon,
I asked for you to qualify your opinions - it is nothing personal. If you want to read something in to that, that is not there - I cannot do anything about that - that is your problem, not mine.
Peace and God bless,
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Yes Liz, tommorow, you know this is all true, it has been in the news over and over, and over. I jave driven 1350 miles today, but if you must have links will provide tommorow. How did I know you would disagree with everything I say. Love you, and your sweet but always disagree with me. I think you know these things are true, but will comply in the morning. Blessings
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon
Really what does it take for folks to see the light. Obama has all the wrong friends. Throws Grannie under the bus, and is so dippy, wright runs over him with the bus, puts it in reverse, and backs over him. He should have not did that to his grandmother ever. He hate the unborn, smooth as silk, people swaying and swooning. Has no plan, just empty words. Going to (supposedly pull troops out right away (Good luck with that). He is a snob, he does not care about the average black man, I bet my life on it. Old people do not trust him, give them something for wisdom. He is not experienced enough, four years as Junior senator. What does it take, complete destruction of our country? Someone take a good look at the cotton candy fluff, and apply wisdom.
Hi lightshineon,
Please qualify all of the aforementioned with links. I don't think this is too much to ask for.
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 6:30:45 AM
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I support most of Obama's stances, except, at least to me, his overtly pro-choice stance
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So, you argree that junkies should be given clean needles. And gang land killlers don't deserve the death penalty. That is fine to remain friends with terrorists who attempt to blow up the Pentagon.
That is OK to give government grants to people who donate to your campaign. That the only reason to be proud of America is that Barry is running for POTUS? That lies about his imaginary uncle being in the army that liberated Auschwitz (it was the Red Army) .
1) To prevent AIDS, I would definitely say yes
2) I'm against the death penalty, colliefan - I believe God is the only one that knows when you are to die, PERIOD
3) I don't know where you get that he wants to remain friends with THE same people that blew up the pentagon. Links, please
4) Oh, and it's alright to blow a country up, and give the contracts to your good buddies I suppose? You know, like our current leadership did...
5) I've heard Obama say he's proud of many things in America...so...what is your point? Are you not happy that people have more choices to pick from for their presidential candidate
6) That statement really angers me, and it has angered WWII vets - Obama just got the name of the concentration camp wrong, colliefan:
"WWII Vet Fires at Conservative Bloggers Re: Obama's Great Uncle Charlie
May 29, 2008 10:04 PM
His name, according to the Obama campaign, was Charles T. Payne. He was born in February 1925, and he served in the 89th Infantry Division of the Army during World War II.
Checking out Obama's story -- you may recall that on Memorial Day, Obama mistakenly said his great uncle was one of the soldiers who helped liberate the concentration camp Auschwitz, when in fact the 89th helped liberate Buchenwald -- our friends at Politifact looked into the matter.
"Although we were not able to reach Payne directly, Payne's son, Richard Payne, said his father 'definitely served in the 89th Infantry Division' and confirmed that Obama's account was substantially accurate, except for identifying the wrong concentration camp. Richard Payne declined to say anything further."
Politifact spoke with researchers at the National Personnel Records Center, who reported that "Army personnel records for Payne would have been destroyed in a 1973 fire that consumed many such archives, but they dug up a 'Morning Report' dated April 11, 1945, showing Pfc. Charles T. Payne was assigned to the 355th Regiment Infantry, Company K. The Records Center provided a copy of the report."Then there's the unofficial website dedicated to the 89th Infantry Division. Politifact spoke with Mark Kitchell, son of 89th veteran Raymond E. Kitchell, who has a list of servicemen -- a list that includes Pfc. C.T. Payne, K Company, 355th Infantry Regiment, 89th Infantry Division -- from the official Division History book.
Politifact concluded that while Obama erred in the name of the concentration camp, the story otherwise checked out.
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An interesting side story here -- the Kitchells are not particularly happy with the conservative bloggers who have set out to prove Obama was "lying" about his great uncle."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/wwii-vet-fires.html
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Hopefully the gospel is being preached at Obama's church
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The day the gospel is preached at Barry's church will be the day McDonalds is in the same market as Ruth Chris' Steak House.
Nice - someone is expressing that they hope the gospel is being preached and you answer with this. Wow...what a Christian-like thing to say...unreal.
Peace and God bless,
Nothing about his account was true.
His mother was an only child.
Obama had no uncles.
Auschwitz is in Poland.
None of his remote relatives were in Poland.
The US did not liberate Auschwitz. Russia did.
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 7:14:18 AM
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OOO! OOO! Know what I heard? Obama went to McDonalds at 10:05 and asked for an Egg McMuffin. What an idiot!!! Every red blooded hard-working American knows McDonalds stops serving breakfast at 10 A.M.. American voters should be outraged! I want to know why the leftist mainstream media didn't pick this story up. I mean, would you vote for a man for president who can't tell time?
But that's not the worst of it. I have some breaking news.
I have sources that report that when Obama eats Oreo cookies, he eats the WHITE center first and when asked why he did that, he said, get this now, this is a direct quote, "I want to save the best for last." Yes, my friends that proves that Obama likes black people better than white people. Do you want this man to be your president? Someone who hates white people so much, that he won't even save you for last? I'm telling you folks, this man cannot be trusted.
Chuckle....thanks Julius.
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 9:14:26 AM
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Nothing about his account was true.
Mother was an only child.
Obama had no uncles.
Auschwitz is in Poland.
None of his remote relatives were in Poland.
The US did not liberate Auschwitz. Russia did.
Hmmm... my dh is an only child and ... yet ... somehow ... my children still have uncles. I think you need a lesson in geneology.
As was said, the account was true with the exception of which concentration camp it was, which really doesn't change the intent of the story.
He had an uncle who was part of a group that liberated a concentration camp.
Tara
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 9:38:02 AM
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He had an uncle who was part of a group that liberated a concentration camp.
Tara
Technically, it was his great uncle. But who refers to their great uncle as great uncle so and so? I called my great uncles simply uncle. Just like I've got cousins, second cousins, etc., I say they're all my cousins.
Now of course there will be some here who will INSIST that they have NEVER heard of anybody being so stupid and scatterbrained as to call their great uncle as simply uncle, and making this horrendous error is inexcusable and shows they're dishonest, elitest and hate white people, and if this were a republican or Hillary Clinton the leftist media would have crucified them, etc., and this person is unfit to be president. Ho hum.
Next?
-Julius
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 10:45:06 AM
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I support most of Obama's stances, except, at least to me, his overtly pro-choice stance
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So, you argree that junkies should be given clean needles. And gang land killlers don't deserve the death penalty. That is fine to remain friends with terrorists who attempt to blow up the Pentagon.
That is OK to give government grants to people who donate to your campaign. That the only reason to be proud of America is that Barry is running for POTUS? That lies about his imaginary uncle being in the army that liberated Auschwitz (it was the Red Army) .
1) To prevent AIDS, I would definitely say yes
2) I'm against the death penalty, colliefan - I believe God is the only one that knows when you are to die, PERIOD
3) I don't know where you get that he wants to remain friends with THE same people that blew up the pentagon. Links, please
4) Oh, and it's alright to blow a country up, and give the contracts to your good buddies I suppose? You know, like our current leadership did...
5) I've heard Obama say he's proud of many things in America...so...what is your point? Are you not happy that people have more choices to pick from for their presidential candidate
6) That statement really angers me, and it has angered WWII vets - Obama just got the name of the concentration camp wrong, colliefan:
"WWII Vet Fires at Conservative Bloggers Re: Obama's Great Uncle Charlie
May 29, 2008 10:04 PM
His name, according to the Obama campaign, was Charles T. Payne. He was born in February 1925, and he served in the 89th Infantry Division of the Army during World War II.
Checking out Obama's story -- you may recall that on Memorial Day, Obama mistakenly said his great uncle was one of the soldiers who helped liberate the concentration camp Auschwitz, when in fact the 89th helped liberate Buchenwald -- our friends at Politifact looked into the matter.
"Although we were not able to reach Payne directly, Payne's son, Richard Payne, said his father 'definitely served in the 89th Infantry Division' and confirmed that Obama's account was substantially accurate, except for identifying the wrong concentration camp. Richard Payne declined to say anything further."
Politifact spoke with researchers at the National Personnel Records Center, who reported that "Army personnel records for Payne would have been destroyed in a 1973 fire that consumed many such archives, but they dug up a 'Morning Report' dated April 11, 1945, showing Pfc. Charles T. Payne was assigned to the 355th Regiment Infantry, Company K. The Records Center provided a copy of the report."Then there's the unofficial website dedicated to the 89th Infantry Division. Politifact spoke with Mark Kitchell, son of 89th veteran Raymond E. Kitchell, who has a list of servicemen -- a list that includes Pfc. C.T. Payne, K Company, 355th Infantry Regiment, 89th Infantry Division -- from the official Division History book.
Politifact concluded that while Obama erred in the name of the concentration camp, the story otherwise checked out.
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An interesting side story here -- the Kitchells are not particularly happy with the conservative bloggers who have set out to prove Obama was "lying" about his great uncle."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/wwii-vet-fires.html
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Hopefully the gospel is being preached at Obama's church
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The day the gospel is preached at Barry's church will be the day McDonalds is in the same market as Ruth Chris' Steak House.
Nice - someone is expressing that they hope the gospel is being preached and you answer with this. Wow...what a Christian-like thing to say...unreal.
Peace and God bless,
Nothing about his account was true.
His mother was an only child.
Obama had no uncles.
Auschwitz is in Poland.
None of his remote relatives were in Poland.
The US did not liberate Auschwitz. Russia did.
What did my link say, ljmac? It says Obama simply got the name of the concentration camp wrong - and that was the ONLY piece of information that was wrong - the rest of the story checked out.
And here is what the Kitchell's have to say
"the Kitchells are not particularly happy with the conservative bloggers who have set out to prove Obama was "lying" about his great uncle.""
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/wwii-vet-fires.html
And from the WWII 89th Division's website itself:
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Concerning the service of Mr. Charles Payne: C.T. Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K. The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf. Mr. Payne was there.
For those who seek to minimize the horrors of Ohrdruf since it was a 'work' camp and not a 'death' camp, we have but one word: shame. Ironically, this argument has been made to us time and time again by various Holocaust-deniers and other pro-Nazi groups. We will let the testimony of survivors and veterans speak for themselves.
It has been recorded that in Ordruf itself the last days were a slaughterhouse. We were shot at, beaten and molested. At every turn went on the destruction of the remaining inmates. Indiscriminant criminal behavior (like the murderers of Oklahoma City some days ago). Some days before the first Americans appeared at the gates of Ordruf, the last retreating Nazi guards managed to execute with hand pistols, literally emptying their last bullets on whomever they encountered leaving them bleeding to death as testified by an American of the 37th Tank Battalion Medical section, 10 a.m. April 4, 1945.
Today I'm privileged thanks to G-d and you gallant fighting men. I'm here to reminisce, and reflect, and experience instant recollections of those moments. Those horrible scenes and that special instance when an Allied soldier outstretched his arm to help me up became my re-entrance, my being re-invited into humanity and restoring my inalienable right to a dignified existence as a human being and as a Jew. Something, which was denied me from September 1939 to the day of liberation in 1945. I had no right to live and survived, out of 80 members of my family, the infernal ordeal of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Ordruf, and its satellite camp Crawinkle and finally Theresinstadt Ghetto-Concentration Camp.
Rabbi Murray Kohn"
http://www.89infdivww2.org/
I suggest that before you spread slander that you read from your conservative think tanks, that you at least be respectful and check the stories out yourself. Is this too much to ask for when you are speaking about WWII vets?
Peace and God bless,
PS From Obama's spokesperson:
"Obama's campaign said yesterday that he had erred in naming the camp but not in describing the role of his great-uncle, who partook in the liberation of Buchenwald.
"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II -- especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald. Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. It also clarified that the great-uncle served in the 89th Infantry Division that "liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald." .."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/27/AR2008052702983.html?nav=hcmodule
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 10:49:18 AM
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He had an uncle who was part of a group that liberated a concentration camp.
Tara
Technically, it was his great uncle. But who refers to their great uncle as great uncle so and so? I called my great uncles simply uncle. Just like I've got cousins, second cousins, etc., I say they're all my cousins.
Now of course there will be some here who will INSIST that they have NEVER heard of anybody being so stupid and scatterbrained as to call their great uncle as simply uncle, and making this horrendous error is inexcusable and shows they're dishonest, elitest and hate white people, and if this were a republican or Hillary Clinton the leftist media would have crucified them, etc., and this person is unfit to be president. Ho hum.
Next?
-Julius
I called all my great aunts, Aunt Libet, Aunt Francis...but like you said, here on 'Obama Watch', every word will be scrutinized. I mean, Hillary should stop wasting her money on mud-slinging and just direct everyone the Christianity.com's Election 2008 forums!
Peace and God bless,
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:09:32 PM
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Hillary should stop wasting her money on mud-slinging and just direct everyone the Christianity.com's Election 2008 forums!
I hope not since the way some people treat each other around here is horrible.
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:32:06 PM
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The real Obama is hard to cover-up
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
So?
Do you really think this new "revelation" is going to change anything?
Other than give the Flame Obama Network, (Fox) some cover for the McClellan fiasco.
- Julius
No doubt. I'm beginning to believe this entire 'Election 2008' thread should be called 'Obama Watch' because that's exactly what it is: let's analyze every minute of his existence and try to shred it to pieces.
But, it is transparent to anyone who is not biased...it's amusing in a very sad way. It makes it all that more apparent that the right fears Obama because of how intelligent he is.
Peace and God bless,
Intelligent? The man sat in an apostate church for 20 years under a person preaching a personal gospel... As well he can talk about the love of Christ and support for abortion in the same interview... Not to mention his unbiblical support for the gay agenda. Those points alone speak volumes of his lack of reading comprehension…
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:34:51 PM
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It makes it all that more apparent that the right fears Obama because of how intelligent he is.
He sounds inteligent in front of a tele-promter, but when pressed on issues he gets frustrated and upset. The right fears him b/c is is so far left.
I respectfully disagree. I believe he is the most articulate politician in my generation - I would say even more so than Reagan, Clinton. If you don't agree with this, let's agree to disagree.
Peace and God bless,
The most articulate politician in your generation wouldn’t speak of live people being honored on Memorial Day, a day for those who gave their lives...
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:40:44 PM
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Hopefully the gospel is being preached at Obama's church,
-Julius
The man believes in abortion and the homosexual agenda... If the gospel is being preached in his church he must not be paying much attention...
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:45:16 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: Lizahana
Where I'm from, Wisconsin, I am proud that we have the history of being a 'maverick' state, and I know many people here that support Obama. One very classy lady that I know campaigned for him tirelessly by foot.
Nobody with true class could support a man who champions the murder of unborn children...
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I'm an independent voter. The ONLY issue I agree with Republicans on is that of pro-life - though I believe in allowances for victims of rape, incest, or when the mother's life is endangered, like GWB believes.
Do you believe the person who committed the rape should be put to death like the poor innocent child?
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I support most of Obama's stances, except, at least to me, his overtly pro-choice stance. On the same note, I don't think this issue matters very much on a presidential level given the fact that the majority of the current SC justices were appointed by republican presidents, and RVW remains intact at the federal level. This is especially given light in the fact that the highly regarded SCJ Kennedy (at least in conservative circles + was appointed by Reagan) had the deciding vote to overturn RVW in 1992, and did not.
So, as an independent voter, I'm leaning towards Obama for the aforementioned reasons.
Peace and God bless,
Which means you support abortion on demand and the gay agenda...
Where is the peace for the unborn? And is Godgoing to bless abortion on demand and the gay agenda?
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:54:53 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: Lizahana
1) To prevent AIDS, I would definitely say yes
Supporting one's drug habit is ok so long as prevents AIDS... I believe you'll have a tough time supporting the with the Word of God..
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2) I'm against the death penalty, colliefan - I believe God is the only one that knows when you are to die, PERIOD
Actually God numbers one's day and more than a few times in the bible said the just punishment for murder is death... oh... And since you believe it's ok for a rape victim to murder the child you do actually believe in the "death penalty"
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Nice - someone is expressing that they hope the gospel is being preached and you answer with this. Wow...what a Christian-like thing to say...unreal.
Given what Obama believes it apparent the gospel of Christ isn't preached, and if it is preached he either can't comprehend or doesn't care to pay attention...
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:55:13 PM
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colliefan
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Liz,
BLT is NOT the gospel and is an abhorrent theology. LT rejects JC as the only savior of mankind and has the government "saving" people by liberating them from poverty. Crosswalk has separate threads about BLT and LT. BLT is just LT's evil twin.
Yes, Bill Ayers is "mainstream" only due to the fact liberal inteligencia has become mainstream. I assume the University of Wisconsin is a bastion of free-thought and welcomes conservative input. NOT
Barry, went to Trinity b/c it was politically expedient. Barry went to Bill to seek his blessings b/c it was politically expedient. Barry said that he couldn't disown Wright more than his racist grandmother he thought he was being politically expedient. When is become clear he had to dump Wright he threw him under the bus because it was politically expedient, He now resigns from Trinity because it is politically expedient
You say you are an “independent” voter. If this is true, Howard Dean is the head of the RNC
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 1:55:58 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Barack Obama just stepped down from his membership at Trinity.
What else does he need to do?
-Julius
He only did so because of politics...
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 2:00:22 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: saved9201
think, deep down inside, some of you have some hidden Obama love and you don't want to admit it cause as a Christian, you're not sposed to love people like him. I think there's some serious man-love between Sean Hannity and Obama. I bet that guy has an Obama shrine at home.
-Julius
I love the man enough to pray that God changes his heart of stone...
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 2:03:46 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: Lizahana
And about preaching the gospel - prove it that Obama's church is not preaching the gospel. And by saying that the gospel is not being preached, what are you insinuating, colliefan?
Thank you in advance, Peace and God bless,
Regardless of what is preached Obama isn't a believer... Can't support abortion and gay rights and claim Christ as well... Cannot serve two masters...
John
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 2:19:27 PM
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saved9201
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ORIGINAL: SovereignIsHe
Regardless of what is preached Obama isn't a believer... Can't support abortion and gay rights and claim Christ as well... Cannot serve two masters...
John
Here we go again. 
-Julius
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RE: There He Goes Again - 6/1/2008 2:35:08 PM
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