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freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 5/31/2008 8:14:14 AM
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Pinksultana
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what are these things? and why are they bad? Ive just had a few people qustion me on them an I hav no idea....I tied to do some research but am REALLY confused.
thanks for any insights
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 5/31/2008 8:40:22 PM
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There have been many threads on this, a search would turn them up. Many will tell you they are the same, others that they are different. I have no dog in this fight, so please take what I say next in the spirit in which it is given (which is friendly advice): take everything you find out with a grain of salt. Especially what you find in the internet both pro and con. This is one of those subjects where there is much said, but very little of it with factual basis (on both sides).
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 5/31/2008 10:45:01 PM
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There have been many threads on this, a search would turn them up. Many will tell you they are the same, others that they are different. I have no dog in this fight, so please take what I say next in the spirit in which it is given (which is friendly advice): take everything you find out with a grain of salt. Especially what you find in the internet both pro and con. This is one of those subjects where there is much said, but very little of it with factual basis (on both sides).
And that grain of salt should be at least the size of your head.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/1/2008 3:06:47 AM
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Here is my conclusion based on what I have found.
There is one group controlling the world. It is split into three, the Trilateral Commision, the Bilderburg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations. They are made up of politicians, celeberties, bankers and the media. They control multiple countries including America. The US Constitution grants the government the right to create currency. Instead we have the fEderal reserve do it for us. It is no more a Federal institution than Federal Express is, yet it controls our finances. We borrow all of our money from them so they essentially own America.
The Federal Reserve is made up of Bankers. The bankers belong to one of the three groups mentioned earlier. All of the presidential candidates with a serious chance at winning have ties to these groups. McCain and Clinton are both members of the CFR. Obama's wife is even head of the Chicago chapter.
It is my belief that these groups were behind 9/11 and the War in Iraq. There was knowledge that something would be happening that day. You can find that out easily enough. The CIA has a meeting ever month and, once enough time has passed, what went on at the meeting is released to the public. Except for the meeting preceeding the 9/11 attacks. The9/11 attacks gave America an excuse to go to war. Going to war gave the government an excuse to take away freedom for security (though in reality we have lost both)and it convienently put America into a position where they could set up a new government in Iraq (or Babylon if you prefer) and control the oil supply.
Now for a history lesson. During the crusades there was a group of warrior knights who discovered something beneath the old temple. In the Da Vinci code they say it is the holy grail. I believe it was the Ark of the Covenant. What ever it was it gave them enormous power, influence and wealth. It also gave them enemies. They took the name the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, or Knights Templar. They were the worlds first bank. In 1307 King Phillip of France (who was under financial trouble) pressured the Pope to do something about the Knights Templar. The result was a mass slaughter of all the Templar Knights. But the order survived.
It evolved over time into the Scottish Right of Freemasonry also known as, the Freemasons. But another group also merged with the Freemasons, the Illuminati. This happened slowly, just as America was being born. In fact, 55 of the founding fathers were Freemasons. It is believed that the Freemasons are a peaceful group, but the 33rd degree master masons are the Illuminati.
George H. W. Bush was a 33rd degree master mason. He spoke of a New World Order. He was also head of the CIA when they stopped investigating the Illuminati. He was also a member of the Skull and Bones society, a secret society at Yale in which promising young men are groomed and placed into positions of power. The reverse the Great Seal ofthe United States is a pyramid with an all seeing eye. This is an Illuminati symbol. Pyramids do not figure into American history. On the seal are the words "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which, in English, means New Order of the Ages, sometimes translated as either New World Order or New Secular Order.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/1/2008 6:50:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: Solus
Here is my conclusion based on what I have found.
There is one group controlling the world. It is split into three, the Trilateral Commision, the Bilderburg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations. They are made up of politicians, celeberties, bankers and the media. They control multiple countries including America. The US Constitution grants the government the right to create currency. Instead we have the fEderal reserve do it for us. It is no more a Federal institution than Federal Express is, yet it controls our finances. We borrow all of our money from them so they essentially own America.
The Federal Reserve is made up of Bankers. The bankers belong to one of the three groups mentioned earlier. All of the presidential candidates with a serious chance at winning have ties to these groups. McCain and Clinton are both members of the CFR. Obama's wife is even head of the Chicago chapter.
It is my belief that these groups were behind 9/11 and the War in Iraq. There was knowledge that something would be happening that day. You can find that out easily enough. The CIA has a meeting ever month and, once enough time has passed, what went on at the meeting is released to the public. Except for the meeting preceeding the 9/11 attacks. The9/11 attacks gave America an excuse to go to war. Going to war gave the government an excuse to take away freedom for security (though in reality we have lost both)and it convienently put America into a position where they could set up a new government in Iraq (or Babylon if you prefer) and control the oil supply.
Now for a history lesson. During the crusades there was a group of warrior knights who discovered something beneath the old temple. In the Da Vinci code they say it is the holy grail. I believe it was the Ark of the Covenant. What ever it was it gave them enormous power, influence and wealth. It also gave them enemies. They took the name the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, or Knights Templar. They were the worlds first bank. In 1307 King Phillip of France (who was under financial trouble) pressured the Pope to do something about the Knights Templar. The result was a mass slaughter of all the Templar Knights. But the order survived.
It evolved over time into the Scottish Right of Freemasonry also known as, the Freemasons. But another group also merged with the Freemasons, the Illuminati. This happened slowly, just as America was being born. In fact, 55 of the founding fathers were Freemasons. It is believed that the Freemasons are a peaceful group, but the 33rd degree master masons are the Illuminati.
George H. W. Bush was a 33rd degree master mason. He spoke of a New World Order. He was also head of the CIA when they stopped investigating the Illuminati. He was also a member of the Skull and Bones society, a secret society at Yale in which promising young men are groomed and placed into positions of power. The reverse the Great Seal ofthe United States is a pyramid with an all seeing eye. This is an Illuminati symbol. Pyramids do not figure into American history. On the seal are the words "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which, in English, means New Order of the Ages, sometimes translated as either New World Order or New Secular Order.
Sounds like someone's been watching the History Channel.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/1/2008 8:51:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber
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ORIGINAL: Solus
Here is my conclusion based on what I have found.
There is one group controlling the world. It is split into three, the Trilateral Commision, the Bilderburg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations. They are made up of politicians, celeberties, bankers and the media. They control multiple countries including America. The US Constitution grants the government the right to create currency. Instead we have the fEderal reserve do it for us. It is no more a Federal institution than Federal Express is, yet it controls our finances. We borrow all of our money from them so they essentially own America.
The Federal Reserve is made up of Bankers. The bankers belong to one of the three groups mentioned earlier. All of the presidential candidates with a serious chance at winning have ties to these groups. McCain and Clinton are both members of the CFR. Obama's wife is even head of the Chicago chapter.
It is my belief that these groups were behind 9/11 and the War in Iraq. There was knowledge that something would be happening that day. You can find that out easily enough. The CIA has a meeting ever month and, once enough time has passed, what went on at the meeting is released to the public. Except for the meeting preceeding the 9/11 attacks. The9/11 attacks gave America an excuse to go to war. Going to war gave the government an excuse to take away freedom for security (though in reality we have lost both)and it convienently put America into a position where they could set up a new government in Iraq (or Babylon if you prefer) and control the oil supply.
Now for a history lesson. During the crusades there was a group of warrior knights who discovered something beneath the old temple. In the Da Vinci code they say it is the holy grail. I believe it was the Ark of the Covenant. What ever it was it gave them enormous power, influence and wealth. It also gave them enemies. They took the name the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, or Knights Templar. They were the worlds first bank. In 1307 King Phillip of France (who was under financial trouble) pressured the Pope to do something about the Knights Templar. The result was a mass slaughter of all the Templar Knights. But the order survived.
It evolved over time into the Scottish Right of Freemasonry also known as, the Freemasons. But another group also merged with the Freemasons, the Illuminati. This happened slowly, just as America was being born. In fact, 55 of the founding fathers were Freemasons. It is believed that the Freemasons are a peaceful group, but the 33rd degree master masons are the Illuminati.
George H. W. Bush was a 33rd degree master mason. He spoke of a New World Order. He was also head of the CIA when they stopped investigating the Illuminati. He was also a member of the Skull and Bones society, a secret society at Yale in which promising young men are groomed and placed into positions of power. The reverse the Great Seal ofthe United States is a pyramid with an all seeing eye. This is an Illuminati symbol. Pyramids do not figure into American history. On the seal are the words "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which, in English, means New Order of the Ages, sometimes translated as either New World Order or New Secular Order.
Sounds like someone's been watching the History Channel.
Nope. I dislike the history channel because they never actually tell you anything new. They just give basic facts and then opinions, or at least what I've seen.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/1/2008 10:05:59 PM
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DarleneSchreiber
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My father is a 33rd Degree Mason...and a Chrisitan...and a preacher...and a person who would never have anything to do with anything remotely resembling anything that opposes God. (At least not anymore than any of the rest of us old sinners who have been saved by grace!)
He's always expressed frustration and puzzlement at the odd things people attribute to Masonry. He's been involved in it for about 45 years now and has never seen anything ungodly about it. He (and I agree) that is has more to do with sour grapes than anything. They will not accept just anybody...they have pretty strict, moral standards. (At least that the way it's laid out and, if followed correctly, that's the case.) There are many people whom, upon being investigated, have been turned down for involvement. Also, there have been cases when people have been asked to leave the organization because of problems. Those are the people that start the rumors.
Plus, it's just a lot of fun to create conspiracy and controversy around something you don't understand! That's a very old, very trusty trick.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/2/2008 10:56:13 AM
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber
My father is a 33rd Degree Mason...and a Chrisitan...and a preacher...and a person who would never have anything to do with anything remotely resembling anything that opposes God. (At least not anymore than any of the rest of us old sinners who have been saved by grace!)
He's always expressed frustration and puzzlement at the odd things people attribute to Masonry. He's been involved in it for about 45 years now and has never seen anything ungodly about it. He (and I agree) that is has more to do with sour grapes than anything. They will not accept just anybody...they have pretty strict, moral standards. (At least that the way it's laid out and, if followed correctly, that's the case.) There are many people whom, upon being investigated, have been turned down for involvement. Also, there have been cases when people have been asked to leave the organization because of problems. Those are the people that start the rumors.
Plus, it's just a lot of fun to create conspiracy and controversy around something you don't understand! That's a very old, very trusty trick.
Why Darlene, I would never have taken you for a tool if the Illuminati. 
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/2/2008 4:43:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber
My father is a 33rd Degree Mason...and a Chrisitan...and a preacher...and a person who would never have anything to do with anything remotely resembling anything that opposes God. (At least not anymore than any of the rest of us old sinners who have been saved by grace!)
He's always expressed frustration and puzzlement at the odd things people attribute to Masonry. He's been involved in it for about 45 years now and has never seen anything ungodly about it. He (and I agree) that is has more to do with sour grapes than anything. They will not accept just anybody...they have pretty strict, moral standards. (At least that the way it's laid out and, if followed correctly, that's the case.) There are many people whom, upon being investigated, have been turned down for involvement. Also, there have been cases when people have been asked to leave the organization because of problems. Those are the people that start the rumors.
Plus, it's just a lot of fun to create conspiracy and controversy around something you don't understand! That's a very old, very trusty trick.
Why Darlene, I would never have taken you for a tool if the Illuminati.
Never assume anything!
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/2/2008 7:44:55 PM
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I'm still writing in Mickey Mouse.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/2/2008 7:47:49 PM
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And for those who actually believe that conspiracies of thousands of people have ruled the earth for generations, I leave you withe the only axiom that I wholly believe: Three can keep a secret if two are dead.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/2/2008 7:48:01 PM
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I'm voting for Bob Barr. And the poster asked what the groups are and why they were bad. I never said that I believed it all but I do believe in some of it. And since the Bible prophecies a one world government I am a little surprised that everyone is dismissing it.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/3/2008 12:07:20 PM
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And for those who actually believe that conspiracies of thousands of people have ruled the earth for generations, I leave you withe the only axiom that I wholly believe: Three can keep a secret if two are dead.
LOL, so true. This whole discussion should go to the Conspiracy forum, anyway.
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/4/2008 8:28:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: 9drtr
And for those who actually believe that conspiracies of thousands of people have ruled the earth for generations, I leave you withe the only axiom that I wholly believe: Three can keep a secret if two are dead.
LOL, so true. This whole discussion should go to the Conspiracy forum, anyway.
Maybe it's a conspiracy. 
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/5/2008 1:19:21 AM
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What does any of this have to do with Freemasonry, the Illuminati or the New World Order? 
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RE: freemasonry, Illuminati and New Wold Order - 6/6/2008 7:12:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: Solus
What does any of this have to do with Freemasonry, the Illuminati or the New World Order?
The Illuminati, et al, are rigging the outcomes of professional wrestling matches. Do you realize the implications?
That they are nor as smart as they'd like us to believe? Or is it that they like muscle bound men in tight shorts?
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