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RE: Fake Homeschoolers - 7/6/2008 9:08:54 AM
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sen10tious
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That was quite rude. I'd say you were making me sick too, but you're not. You're just irritating me.
I'm very sorry, Cynthia. It was not intended to be rude, but as satire.
Up to that point, the discussion had been focused primarily on helping the girl, and suddenly it switched and centered on family choice.
It is simply that holding homeschoolers to a different standard is upsetting. Why should parents who choose public school be able to behave "more" badly before anyone considers "doing something?" Why are folks are a lot more likely to meddle in the affairs of parents who choose to homeschool? It is hypocritical and prejudicial against homeschoolers to think of calling the authorities on them when it would not cross anyone's mind to do the same to a public school family.
I think you showed a TON of wisdom by not calling CPS. Your instincts were right on.
The longer I live, the more I appreciate the Lord for putting Matthew 7:2 in the Gospels: "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
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RE: Fake Homeschoolers - 7/6/2008 12:49:33 PM
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cynthia
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I forgive you. I shouldn't respond when I'm tired, so I'm also sorry for my sharp reply.
What you are saying is what my point is. That parents who send their children to public school are also responsible for the education of their children, but when those kids are not doing well academically (due to lack of parental involvement), no one thinks to call CPS about it.
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RE: Fake Homeschoolers - 7/6/2008 12:55:53 PM
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Ellie-Mae
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I think it has more to do with the education that the family environment.
Example: Take a child being passed into fifth grade that is barely being able to read, having 3-4 letter spelling words, unable to do long division, unable to do multi-digit multiplication without someone walking him through it, unable to read time, Never having much art, unable to read or write in cursive, poor printing, and unable to socialize well.
If said child is in the ps, people might be concerned, but no one is going to report the school or the parents for educational neglect. I doubt that anyone would even think of it.
If the child is hsed, people are going to be MUCH more likely to report the parents for educational neglect.
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RE: Fake Homeschoolers - 7/6/2008 1:06:06 PM
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cynthia
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Yep, that is correct.
Parental involvement is a huge factor in student success, in the vast majority of cases. If the parents aren't involved when the child is at home, they wouldn't be any more involved if the child were in school. In fact, they would then be very likely release their responsiblity entirely and think it now belonged to the school.
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RE: Fake Homeschoolers - 7/7/2008 1:01:52 AM
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elliemaejune
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Elliemaejune, Your post made me laugh.
I'm glad, because it was kind of brassy of me, considering I've posted so rarely on the homeschool forum 
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That is exactly how I am feeling. I think I just got so frustrated with the situation that I felt like I had to "do" something! I have tried to disconnect from that family, as I have tried in the past to help them, but they are unresponsive. I know of others that have tried to help them as well. They have been confronted, admitted their sin and yet do not do anything to change.
Well, there you go.
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The problem is that my daughter adores Alice and Alice adores my daughter. I don't want to cut them off from each other, so I let the relationship continue, then I hear about all this nonsense over and over again. I am not a sit back type of person, so it is really hard for me to ignore it. I know I am to pray, and I do, but I feel like there must be something I can do and if I cannot do it, maybe someone else should.
Maybe not. I always want to fix things, too, or to do *something,* but I think I have almost learned that often people just need to dig themselves out of the pit they're in...or not, in which case I just try to be ready to help pick up the pieces. Or maybe what you're supposed to do is help your dd learn how to handle situations like this: just listen, don't make suggestions, don't try to fix anything.
[uqote] Yeah, get the government involved in their business, that's the answer! Uh, not.
Indeed!
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I will let go of feeling any responsiblity to do anything about someone else's life. It looks like a disaster, but it is a self inflicted disaster and I cannot do anything about it. Only the Lord can, so I have to simply pray and continue to help my daughter work through her frustrations after she speaks with Alice.
I think this is the best thing.
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If this family had their kids in public school and the kids were doing poorly, I wouldn't have even considered calling the authorities. The parents are responsible for their own children and unless the children are in physical danger, I do not think the government should get involved.
ITA.
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