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davemiller7 -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 3:12:43 PM)

I pray in public places - not so people can see me do that - in restaurants, for example, I bow my head, close my eyes and silently ask for blessings on my food.

And by the way, the United States is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic

-Dave

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ORIGINAL: mapachito13

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ORIGINAL: galadriel2

Thanks again, kernsfamily, for the response....Could you preach on the sidewalk in the Mall at Washington D.C....in front of the White House let's say or in the Capital Building foyer? Could you hold a prayer meeting to Christ only in any secular campus building whenever you wanted without any hassle? See, I think it is more that the church is too busy following the world so it doesn't get persecuted because Paul says to Timothy: 'All who live godly will suffer persecution'. I think we lack persecution because we are too much like the world, we are too ungodly; not so much because we have all this religious freedom. It is true that Peter also says: 'Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good?', but he also says that it is God's will to silence to foolish and ignorant talk of ignorant men by doing good. We lack persecution because we don't hold the Lord in high enough regard; because we are too much like the world.

God bless you abundantly,
Galadriel2


Has anyone stopped you from doing those things in your church or home? Has the government ordered you to ascribe to this denomination/religion or another?

Sounds like your upset because you can't go to public places to perform religious acts for others to see. Although, I've seen people praying in parks, at the mall and in many other public places. BTW, our government is democratic not theocratic.



todd_t -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 3:43:51 PM)

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So let me get this straight - he was using the windfall profits tax as an example of us "losing our freedoms" but he ignored this administration's affinity for warrantless wiretaps and denying any sort of legal rights to GitMo detainees.


Don't you get it, Dan?

When the profit margins of Exxon/Mobil are trampled on, all Americans' rights are stained.... [;)]



todd_t -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 3:47:01 PM)

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oh, wait, you guys on the left are in favor of that atrocity as well


I hate to break this to you, but liberals and moderates are not the only ones who want protections for basic abortion rights. Many conservatives are pro-choice also.

As a matter of fact, I once saw a quote from Bush saying that were his immediate family to hold a vote on whether to overturn Roe v. Wade or not, he'd lose 3-1 (in favor of keeping Roe).



galadriel2 -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 4:00:39 PM)

...Mapachito...thanks for the response! It is ridiculous to accuse me of wanting a right to exercise my religion in public so that I can be a hypocrite. The thought never even crossed my mind! How do you know my motives anyway?

God bless you abundantly and everyone else!
Galadriel2

Todd_t is understaning what Rush and I are saying. Sean Hannity is saying the same thing. We need to let business prosper - even oil businesses. If gas has gotten high enough in price for the oil companies to profit from drilling in Alaska then they should do it. We should also be building refineries, nuclear power plants, more windmeals (sp?), etc., I think....God bless all.



galadriel2 -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 4:05:27 PM)

as2007 - if we wouldn't hinder businesses from drilling, from nuclear power plant development, etc., we wouldn't have the low supply and high price for energy that we do now. The solution isn't to limit business and personal rights more so that 'Big Brother' can manage things for us even more.

God bless you,
Galadriel2

The most practical thing in the world is a truth understood and applied correctly.



galadriel2 -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 4:14:11 PM)

With regards to what tafkam and others are discussing with regards to do we use the same tactics as terrorists, winning the 'idea war' - it is important to realize that what God commands to government to do in response to evil and what He commands a civilian aren't exactly the same thing. Of government, in Romans chapter 13 the Lord talks about that government doesn't possess a sword in vain. They are to punish 'evil-doers'. Romans 12 teaches to overcome evil with good though. Civilians and government officials acting as civilians are to love the evil-doer. This is an important distinction. The Sermon on the Mount is written to people as people - not to people as hired as government officials. Sometimes war, anger, are correct. Sometimes it is right to kill a person, but I think humans tend to err on the side of getting angry too easily, of killing and going to war too quickly.

God bless all abundantly,
Galadriel2



mapachito13 -> RE: Rush is right (6/25/2008 6:18:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: galadriel2

...Mapachito...thanks for the response! It is ridiculous to accuse me of wanting a right to exercise my religion in public so that I can be a hypocrite. The thought never even crossed my mind! How do you know my motives anyway?

God bless you abundantly and everyone else!
Galadriel2

Todd_t is understaning what Rush and I are saying. Sean Hannity is saying the same thing. We need to let business prosper - even oil businesses. If gas has gotten high enough in price for the oil companies to profit from drilling in Alaska then they should do it. We should also be building refineries, nuclear power plants, more windmeals (sp?), etc., I think....God bless all.


I'm not saying you are a hypocrit. I said you want to be able to publicly pray where others can see you. You can pray anywhere you want already so where's the problem or lack of this right? Give a specific example how this has affected you or someone close to you?



galadriel2 -> RE: Rush is right (6/27/2008 11:39:02 AM)

Thanks for the clarification Mapachito. Preaching; however (not talking about prayer here), by its very nature, is public.

As another observation, my husband was talking with a former employee of a big oil company. He said that when he was working for them a few years ago it only cost 27 cents to make one gallon of gasoline from the crude. But here is the catch. In order to not lose money to the government via taxes they would have to buy things. So they would take the profits and by up competitive energy sources like windmeals - but never develop it - more profit I guess to deal with. Or they would buy a baseball team or a stadium - to avoid losing so much money to the Feds!! If the baseball team is a crummy one - they can write off the losses.

God bless all,
Galadriel2

We need the government out of our lives!



Birdiecat -> RE: Rush is right (6/28/2008 8:42:45 AM)

I listen to Rush daily ... he is right ... why do you think certain libs are trying to enforce the Fairness Doctrine? Which isn't fair at all. Control, baby!
As far as abortion goes ... back in the 80's I had 3 abortions. To this day I still suffer from what I did. I asked God's forgiveness and I received it. I have a hard time forgiving myself. I realize now the pain I put a baby through. At the time I had no idea what I was doing. I'm pro-life all the way today, after being saved 9 years ago. Even the woman in Roe vs. Wade says she'd like to see the Supreme Court block abortions. She said she feels responsible for the death of millions of babies. Abortions are a very cruel painful "operation". If they'd show a video of an abortion I bet a lot of girls/women would change their habits!
Praying in public? I do! In restaurants, work, anywhere I want to pray ... I pray. Living in Mississippi we pretty much do what we want where God is concerned! Supreme Court can't control my public display of love for my Savior!
I really believe if more people would listen to Rush Limbaugh they might be surprised. He actually does know what's going on in the world of politics. If I want to know the "real" news I listen to Rush and Sean Hannity. Laura Ingraham is a good show to listen to also. She's a good woman!
Have a blessed day!
We have to keep Obama out of the White House!



galadriel2 -> RE: Rush is right (7/2/2008 6:08:14 PM)

Rush is right when he talks about the 'drive-by media' and what a perfect title for them!

God bless all abundantly,
Galadriel2



todd_t -> RE: Rush is right (7/2/2008 6:15:03 PM)

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Rush is right when he talks about the 'drive-by media' and what a perfect title for them!


The biggest irony (and/or joke) about Rush using this term is that he denies he himself is part of the same media elite he whines about each day.

Further, Limbaugh uses the term "drive-by" to imply the media's mentality of getting out a story quick and dirty each cycle with no concern for accuracy - yet Limbaugh himself has made of career of doing precisely this by dropping inflammatory comments he knows will get people riled up (and then hiding behind the phrase "I'm an entertainer, not a journalist") in order to boost his own ad base.

In other words, Limbaugh is as much a member of the "DBM" as anyone. But of course, he'd never admit it publicly.



tafkam -> RE: Rush is right (7/2/2008 8:18:25 PM)

Hardly. The mainstream media can do drive bys all day long and never have to answer for them.

Rush is on three hours a day and has to actually defend what he says. You may not agree with what he says, but accusing him of the "drive by" approach doesn't hold any water at all....



todd_t -> RE: Rush is right (7/2/2008 8:46:28 PM)

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Rush is on three hours a day and has to actually defend what he says. You may not agree with what he says, but accusing him of the "drive by" approach doesn't hold any water at all....


You are forgetting two key details: a) Rush screens and picks his calls, and; b) has the luxury of a dump button to blank out people who question his schtick.

Limbaugh's show's entire narrative is tightly orchestrated from stem to stern, and his "drive-by" approach has always included off-color comments (i.e. "phony soldiers," or mocking Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's symptoms) which he knows will get him flack before falling back on his classic excuse that whatever Rush said was a joke.

I can't fault Limbaugh on his success. It's just disturbing that so many people buy into his nonsense.



Leon_Figg3 -> RE: Rush is right (7/2/2008 9:42:10 PM)

todd_t,
I take it, from your postings, that you do not listen to Rush all that much. In fact, I do not believe that you listen to very many radio talk shows; conservative, or "progressive".

1. All talk show hosts, even those on "progreessive" radio talk shows screen phone calls. Name me one "progressive" radio talk show host that allows a conservative caller onto the air for a half-way civil discussion about issues.

2. Yes Rush has the right and responsibility to "dump" a caller that gets on the air only to air his views and not carry on a conversation.

3. On most Fridays Rush spends three hours during which anyone and everyone can get on the air and discuss an issue of their choice with him. I have yet to find a "progressive" radio talk show do the same thing.

4. Rush is not a journalist. He is a commentator. There is a big difference between a journalist and a commentator. A journalist is expected to report on events and provide facts without bias. A commentator is expected to air his views which hopefully are based on his interpretation of facts, events and what others have said.

While Rush does tend to go a bit too far at times, he clearly does a lot more research about events and facts than most reporters and journalists tend to do today.



davemiller7 -> RE: Rush is right (7/3/2008 9:05:49 AM)

Right! And anyone who has ever heard the little bits from Sean Hannity's "crank call answering machine" can tell, if you let just everybody on the air, there would be no cohesive program, just rambling and obscene hate language.

I agree that Rush gets too full of himself sometimes, but in general, he's got it right.

-Dave

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ORIGINAL: Leon_Figg3

todd_t,
I take it, from your postings, that you do not listen to Rush all that much. In fact, I do not believe that you listen to very many radio talk shows; conservative, or "progressive".

1. All talk show hosts, even those on "progreessive" radio talk shows screen phone calls. Name me one "progressive" radio talk show host that allows a conservative caller onto the air for a half-way civil discussion about issues.

2. Yes Rush has the right and responsibility to "dump" a caller that gets on the air only to air his views and not carry on a conversation.

3. On most Fridays Rush spends three hours during which anyone and everyone can get on the air and discuss an issue of their choice with him. I have yet to find a "progressive" radio talk show do the same thing.

4. Rush is not a journalist. He is a commentator. There is a big difference between a journalist and a commentator. A journalist is expected to report on events and provide facts without bias. A commentator is expected to air his views which hopefully are based on his interpretation of facts, events and what others have said.

While Rush does tend to go a bit too far at times, he clearly does a lot more research about events and facts than most reporters and journalists tend to do today.



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