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sunshine4God -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/13/2008 11:56:56 PM)

I love church bulletins.Without them I wouldn't remember what was going on in our church,since nobody in our church remembers to call one another and let them know about stuff.




KuKu -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/14/2008 12:03:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: redeemedsaint

Good to have a church bulletin, that way I know what is going on.


My job only allows me to be in church every other Sunday, so I REALLY appreciate having a way to 'know' what is going on, as well as being able to plan for the future...

ETA- Ours generally contains prayer requests as well, which means I am able to continue to pray, knowing how...




Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/14/2008 12:42:39 AM)

Church bulletins are a good thing.
They're my job security.




BibleL7 -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/15/2008 4:45:43 AM)

Well guess it depends on church and if you are making them or not. Also how they are layed out. Some dont have calenders for the month so it is not repeat. We dont have the subject of sernoms just a section with lines so they can take notes on sermons some in our church do use them to take notes. Some like the prayer list for it reminds them of some they might forget at times. Of course ours also includes our responsive reading so people dont always have to find it in bible especially if they dont have same version. And yea some just get tossed but then when I dont make them people complain.




ezri -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/15/2008 11:27:36 PM)

I guess what is missing is the communication that we all enjoyed back in the good ol days before people got so busy they forgot to talk in person with their fellow believers.

[&:][&o]

~e




Roberta_ -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 12:10:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ezri

How'd folks know when stuff was 15-20 years ago??? ~e


When I attended church as a teen in the late '70s and early '80s, we found that you could make some excellent airplanes and spit wads out of them.

I used to volunteer my time once a week to put together the bulletins for our church secretary. Since I was also the prayer team leader, it was my job to get the prayer list printed up and put in there. I've heard all the complaints.... once or twice I think I even heard a compliment.

I use mine for taking sermon notes and to check through out the week what events are going on, sometimes phone numbers, etc. I am in the process of finding a binder to keep them in.




seagullplayer -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 10:07:46 AM)

We use ours for prayer request names. It is very handy for dates of upcoming events.
I will often take the few that are remaining and send then in letters to some people I know missed service, or who are in the hospital.

It also gives kids something to tear up and chew on other than the hymn book! [:D]




JimboFletch -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 10:14:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ezri
How'd folks know when stuff was 15-20 years ago???...

Believe it or not, when I started going to my current church over 20 years ago, we had a weekly newsletter sent via postal mail and a bulletin with the order of service and other information each Sunday morning.

The bulletin & newsletter have been combined (but they are available via postal mail upon request) and given out on Sunday morning. (Would that make it a Bull-Letter?)

They are also available for download in PDF from our web site and via email for people who request it. That's a couple of others layers of work to the system...




JimboFletch -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 10:20:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LCannon

Our 'worship folder' is less about the 'order of service'(actually there's no 'order of service' listed) then about the opportunities for service in the coming week and anticipation of upcoming events.

That's describes ours too. The "order of service" used to be included when they first started calling it the "worship folder." The name stuck when the order ceased being printed.

Do pastors take a "What to Call Things" newsletter or something????

(BTW, the instrumentalists still get an "Order of Service." There HAS to some structure if you have more than just a single keyboardist.)
[;)]




kernsfamily -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 10:41:42 AM)

At our church...an absolute necessity...

there's a multitude of things that the church is doing...or that is happening at the church, that it makes the "bulletin" a "must read"....

announcing from the pulpit? the pastor might "highlight" one or two of the "major items", but beyond that, not all items that are "bulletin worthy" are relevant to all in the congregation....

so, you read the bulletin to find those items that are of interest to you....plus, the bulletin has the "tear off" thing for visitors to fill out (the visitor registration form), and hand in during offering, if they so choose...

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Back in the day:

* there was a sign at the front of the church that had the hymn numbers on it.
* We did not know the focal bible passage or sermon "title" until the pastor announced them.


"Back in the day", there were MANY things the church did, and didn't do, that is different from now.....and are changes for the better....

Our pastor says that "Because we've always done it that way", is NOT a justifiable reason to do, or not to do, anything.

I'll dig up Sunday's bulletin, if I can remember, and tell y'all what is in there...




colliefan -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 10:50:18 AM)

My church is a liturgical church and the order of the service is printed in the bulletin. In terms of effectiveness is commuicating information, I have found that few people read the entire bulletin cover to cover. Most effective is annoucements from the pulpit, but these must few and to the point.




ta_mosquito -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 11:01:18 AM)

Ours is a liturgical church, too, so we've got the responsive readings, prayer of confession, etc in the bulletin. It is also on the overhead screen, but many people are old and half blind and can't read that anyway. [8D] So they prefer the bulletin.

We still have the hymn numbers on the board up front, but often we also sing songs not in the hymnal. Yeah, we're heathens. [;)]

We rarely have announcements from the pulpit. If you want to know what's going on, you've got the bulletin.

We do have a monthly calendar, but there's very little on it - birthdays and anniversaries, mostly, with the occasional special service, Communion service, etc. thrown in. The weekly Bible study is on there and the Monday night Kids' Club. But it's rare for special activities, small groups, etc. to be on there.

Yep, definitely good. I do sympathize with those who have to make up the bulletin, though. That's a tough job.




colliefan -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 11:07:46 AM)

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Yep, definitely good. I do sympathize with those who have to make up the bulletin, though. That's a tough job


It is a tough job. I used to help fold them until I lost some dexterity in my hands.




zoebob -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 11:47:32 AM)

Our church gives out a booklet that's about 20 pages long

Inside cover: Church vision and purpose and general information
Next 16 pages or so: order of worship. We print the songs we will sing, the responsive reading, some sort of prayer or meditation before we have a time of confession, assurance of forgiveness, passage for sermon, place to take notes, etc.
Then there is a page of updates: attendance, offering, usher/nursery/children's church schedule, prayer conerns
A few pages of announcemnets
A page of "missions spotlight" with infor about one of our missionaries
Inside back cover: staff/address/phone number/website/elders/deacons/legal disclaimer for musisc
Back cover: events of the week

Part of the reason that they print everything in the bulliten is so that people can take it home and use it during the week in their personal devotions and/or family worship. They also don't announce everything from the pulpit but say if it's in the bulliten you are welcome to attend.

I think they are also good because for people who are visual it's easier to remember the events than if they hear them




Consecrated2God -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 11:53:04 AM)

Ours has hardly anything in it. Usually the times of the services (which don't change) and who's preaching (which rarely changes) and the prayer list (which sometimes changes). If there's anything to announce, it might be in the bulletin, but it might not, too. They print it out during Sunday School and often it looks just like last week's bulletin. Here's the contents of our bulletin on our web page, although I see they haven't updated it in a couple of weeks. The prayer list isn't on the online version, though, although it's on the website somewhere.




PolarBear -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/16/2008 1:13:26 PM)

Ours is also quite a few pages long, and contains all the song lyrics (some with music), one song per page, and reflective readings.

I like it because I have poor vision and often can't read overhead projectors (depends on the font size and my distance from the screen and the contrast). Reading the lyrics again at home is also nice.

HOWEVER the use of resources does bother me. It's got to cost a good bit to put those together and print and fold them all. Is that REALLY the best use of resources?




BibleL7 -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 3:03:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PolarBear

Ours is also quite a few pages long, and contains all the song lyrics (some with music), one song per page, and reflective readings.

I like it because I have poor vision and often can't read overhead projectors (depends on the font size and my distance from the screen and the contrast). Reading the lyrics again at home is also nice.

HOWEVER the use of resources does bother me. It's got to cost a good bit to put those together and print and fold them all. Is that REALLY the best use of resources?


As to the use of resources quetion you ask I would say that the people making them would give a resounding yes simply because of the statement you made in the second paragraph. I am sure if those who make the bulletin knew this they would see their work as being worthwile, for any time that something done helps a person in worshiping our Lord then what ever the cost it is most certainly worth it.




BibleL7 -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 3:10:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito

Ours is a liturgical church, too, so we've got the responsive readings, prayer of confession, etc in the bulletin. It is also on the overhead screen, but many people are old and half blind and can't read that anyway. [8D] So they prefer the bulletin.

We still have the hymn numbers on the board up front, but often we also sing songs not in the hymnal. Yeah, we're heathens. [;)]

We rarely have announcements from the pulpit. If you want to know what's going on, you've got the bulletin.

We do have a monthly calendar, but there's very little on it - birthdays and anniversaries, mostly, with the occasional special service, Communion service, etc. thrown in. The weekly Bible study is on there and the Monday night Kids' Club. But it's rare for special activities, small groups, etc. to be on there.

Yep, definitely good. I do sympathize with those who have to make up the bulletin, though. That's a tough job.


TY for the post it really touched me and is very encouraging to a person who has sometimes wondered if it was worth it to put out bulletins for the past several years. once again Thank you it was a reall blessing.




Cloak -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 8:17:00 AM)

I like them! When I used to go to church, it enabled me to know what was going on and I would even keep it till that event was over.

I also believe it is a friendly way to the parishioners to get to know their church better, the kind of services they over, programs, keeps folks updated, contains useful info spiritual, practical etc.

It is really worth all the trouble and pain the secretary went thru to produce them! [:)]




ezri -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 10:54:30 AM)

The new secy started yesterday [:D] She actually told me that she once printed a bulletin without the songs listed because the music minister did not get them to her in time. WOW that's moxie- but then she can afford to have some moxie as she is not a church member(Against the bylaws to have a church member in this paid position)

She also agreed that if 125 was leaving 50 unused and going into the "trash" (even if it is a recycle bin, which it is not as of now) then she will talk to her supervisor about cutting back. [:D] I think I like this lady a lot already.

I still think that they should be paying her 15.00 an hour just for the bulletin work. [;)] I can "see" why they are valuable resource in some cases. The vision issue mentioned is a valid one for sure. The visitor seeing the "divorce care" class scheduled for thurs night and coming back to be ministered to- she would not have seen that if the only mention of it was on the church calender.

I guess there is a lot more going on in the church today than 20 years ago. But I still maintain that there is a lot less person to person communication of events today than there was back then too. The church would be stronger if we just TALKED to one another more. A tri-folded bit of paper doesn't = communication.

~e




doinkdom -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 11:01:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ezri
I guess there is a lot more going on in the church today than 20 years ago. But I still maintain that there is a lot less person to person communication of events today than there was back then too. The church would be stronger if we just TALKED to one another more. A tri-folded bit of paper doesn't = communication.
~e



You mean I can't just walk in and sit down and not be bothered? Wow what kind of church is that?

I have to talk to people [&:] maybe even shake hands or heaven forbid get touched by someone!

Well, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I don't go to church to be a part of anything. I just got a Christian box I need to check-off for attending. God will see that and I'll have done my duty.

Man...you people sure ask a lot of someone.



[8D][:D][8D]




zoebob -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 11:01:47 AM)

ROFLOL Doink




doinkdom -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 11:05:30 AM)

[;)]

yep




bluestone -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 11:12:19 AM)

One lady got all over me for putting a man on the prayer list, as he had died. Well, he died Saturday night, and I printed them off on Saturday mornings.[8|] I did not know he was dead until she fussed on Sunday.

I also had a worship leader who refused to give song titles. She said the spirit might lead in a different direction. Then the pastor started saying the same thing about sermons. So I stopped doing them.

Of all the duties I ever had in the church, bulletins would be at the top of the "most frustrating" list. Even above chaperoning the youth group.[sm=eek.gif] The constant complaints and lack of information in a timely manner was irritating beyond degree. I would EMAIL THE HEAD OF EVERY DEPARTMENT BY WEDNESDAY to see if anything needed to go in.
On Sunday morning one of those folks would stand up and say "I have an announcement that is not in the bulletin"

As though I left it out of the bulletin!




JimboFletch -> RE: Church Bulletins- Good or Bad? (6/17/2008 11:39:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bluestone
I also had a worship leader who refused to give song titles. She said the spirit might lead in a different direction. Then the pastor started saying the same thing about sermons. So I stopped doing them.

Aren't you glad that you don't have to guess what time the sun or moon is going to rise & set each day?

One of my former pastors used to periodically decide his sermon topic between the start of the service and time for him to speak. Even though he'd been in the ministry well over 30 years then, you could always tell whether that happened or whether he gave the one he bathed in prayer & study that week. Those spur of the moment sermons always left everyone wondering just what the sermon topic had been about. (He is also the only pastor I ever had to announce that he had 12 points in his sermon - and actually meant it!)




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